What to do with the new house?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I agree with you on this part of your post. How can anyone judge him at all as president, when he's NOT yet? And why are there already calls from the left for his impeachment, as well as his assissination, when he hasn't even DONE anything as president yet? Ahhhh, the logic of the LWNJs...

How does Trump "appear to run the country like a business"? How is he already a successful president making America great again? He hasn't even stepped into office yet. Talk about an inflated appearance of accomplishment, that statement is utterly ridiculous at this time.

[smilesammich 10,727]

It was very clear that a community organizer with only a few years of senate experience was not worthy of the white house. This statement was made repeatedly leading up to the 2008 election.

I completely disagree with your second statement. Obama is not a week leader nor is he ineffective. If you want to be more specific, then we can discuss what makes you think this.

How does Trump "appear to run the country like a business"? How is he already a successful president making America great again? He hasn't even stepped into office yet. Talk about an inflated appearance of accomplishment, that statement is utterly ridiculous at this time.

grand dragon trump (works as well as 'the kenyan' i think) is proving to be a con. this is going to be an interesting time for cehst that's for sure, just to see how much flipflopping backpeddling insanity a trump supporter can withstand and keep coming back for more

[Teddy B 17,252]

Are you fracking kidding me??? No political experience? Granted, it was a spotty career at best, but what about his IL Senate starting in 1996, and the US Senate into 2004? Remember his 2002 & 2003 anti-war speeches, telling people it wasn't too late to stop the war? Yanno, the one he KEEPS sending soldiers into today, 7 or 8 years after his campaign promise of "no more boots on the ground", where he has sent more soliders into Iraq, Afghanistan and now Syria?

Are you talking about THAT Obama with no political experience? Or the other one?

He may not have had as much experience as Clinton... But he sure enough stepped up and proved himself incompetent. Jimmy Carter must love Obama for making him not look so bad, eh?

No Dave, I wouldn't kid you. I've quoted one story below that explains what I'm referring to, but you can do a google search and find many more.

Party That Mocked President’s Lack of Experience Favors One with No Experience Whatsoever

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Republicans, who mercilessly mocked Barack Obama’s lack of government experience before he became President, now favor Presidential candidates with no experience whatsoever, the head of the Republican National Committee has confirmed.

The R.N.C. chief, Reince Priebus, said that he sees “no contradiction at all” between Republicans’ contempt for Obama’s pre-White House résumé, which included eleven years spent in public office, and their rabid enthusiasm for G.O.P. rising stars Donald Trump, Ben Carson, and Carly Fiorina, whose combined years in public office total zero.

“I think what bothered us Republicans the most about Obama was that he was a community organizer,” Priebus explained. “What does organizing people have to do with running a government?”

In contrast with that dubious credential, he said, Carson is “eminently qualified” to be President because of his experience as a neurosurgeon. “I think if Ben had negotiated with the Iranians we would have gotten a better deal, because he would have known how their brains worked, medically and all,” Priebus argued.

Additionally, the R.N.C. boss said that the billionaire Donald Trump’s experience puts him “leagues ahead” of President Obama. “One of President Obama’s problems is that he is out of touch with reality,” Priebus said. “Donald Trump spent fourteen seasons hosting a reality show.”

As for the former Hewlett-Packard C.E.O. Carly Fiorina, Priebus said that the excitement her résumé is generating among the Republican faithful is totally understandable. “Like a lot of Republicans, I’d love to see Carly take on ISIS,” he said. “She’s shown she can destroy a large organization.”

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/party-that-mocked-presidents-lack-of-experience-favors-one-with-no-experience-whatsoever

Edited November 15, 2016 by Teddy B

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

He was a tad more than just a community organizer, wouldn't you say? He may have been incompetent back then too (can't speak to his effectiveness as a senator, never read up on it), but I'd say being a state senator qualifies one as a politician.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Illinois_State_Senator_.281997.E2.80.932004.29

No Dave, I wouldn't kid you. I've quoted one story below that explains what I'm referring to, but you can do a google search and find many more.

[Teddy B 17,252]

He was a tad more than just a community organizer, wouldn't you say? He may have been incompetent back then too (can't speak to his effectiveness as a senator, never read up on it), but I'd say being a state senator qualifies one as a politician.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Illinois_State_Senator_.281997.E2.80.932004.29

Not according to republicans during that election cycle. Honestly do a google search for "obama's lack of political experience" and check out the results, there are over 21 million of them.

[MarkPerry 488]

It was very clear that a community organizer with only a few years of senate experience was not worthy of the white house. This statement was made repeatedly leading up to the 2008 election.

And as he is leaving the Whitehouse, not much for a legacy and what is about to be wiped from the books. They were correct he was not worthy and he proved it.

His overall job rating is pathetic.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him run again in the future.

[smilesammich 10,727]

I wouldn't be surprised to see him run again in the future.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

grand dragon trump (works as well as 'the kenyan' i think) is proving to be a con. this is going to be an interesting time for cehst that's for sure, just to see how much flipflopping backpeddling insanity a trump supporter can withstand and keep coming back for more

Someone predicated a melt down. It is upon us. Just not who they predicted.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Someone predicated a melt down. It is upon us. Just not who they predicted.

did you honestly expect my integrity/morals/ideals/standards to lower or disappear altogether if trump won? because that miscalculation is on you..

[Teddy B 17,252]

And as he is leaving the Whitehouse, not much for a legacy and what is about to be wiped from the books. They were correct he was not worthy and he proved it.

His overall job rating is pathetic.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him run again in the future.

You can keep making blanket statements without proof, that doesn't make them true. I get some of you Trump supporters believe the bs you're fed as gospel, I don't.

Feel free to expand on how his job rating is pathetic, I'm all ears. The one area I believe Obama has failed in is race relations, other than that I think he's done a pretty good job with lowering the unemployment rate and slowly bringing the economy back. We are most definitely in a much better place now than when he first took office in Jan 2009.

[MarkPerry 488]

I completely disagree with your second statement. Obama is not a week leader nor is he ineffective. If you want to be more specific, then we can discuss what makes you think this.

Obama came into power with numbers on his side in both houses of congress. He had the political world by the balls and decided he wanted to lead from the rear. Within 2 years he gave up the House to the Republicans and it only took him 3/4ths of his term to give them the senate.

Obama managed to oversee a primary that was rigged for a 70 year old Washington insider who proved to be so corrupt and unlikable she actually got her :censored::censored::censored: handed to her by Donald Trump a business man who had little support from his own party

The Cliff notes of his 8 years in office

Edited November 15, 2016 by MarkPerry

[Teddy B 17,252]

Obama came into power with numbers on his side in both houses of congress. He had the political world by the balls and decided he wanted to lead from the rear. Within 2 years he gave up the House to the Republicans and it only took him 3/4ths of his term to give them the senate.

Obama managed to oversee a primary that was rigged for a 70 year old Washington insider who proved to be so corrupt and unlikable she actually got her :censored::censored::censored: handed to her by Donald Trump a business man who was little support from his own party

The Cliff notes of his 8 years in office

More blanket statements with everything all wrapped up nice and neat. There are no cliff notes of an 8 year presidency, things are much more complex than you like to make them. The inability to understand the workings of our gov't seems to be a running theme with the majority of Trump supporters.

[MarkPerry 488]

More blanket statements with everything all wrapped up nice and neat. There are no cliff notes of an 8 year presidency, things are much more complex than you like to make them. The inability to understand the workings of our gov't seems to be a running theme with the majority of Trump supporters.

We will be trying to dig out of this blackhole for years. Race relations are worse than I have ever seen, We have opened our borders to uneducated and criminal Illegal Aliens, He has put so much regulation on business that many had to shut down, he has incited cop violence by allowing a hate group like BLM to visit Whitehouse and praise them , He has weakened our Military and thus making us weaker in the world, He is more concerned in non americans future than Americans by all his executive actions like DACA and DAPA

[Teddy B 17,252]

We will be trying to dig out of this blackhole for years. Race relations are worse than I have ever seen, We have opened our borders to uneducated and criminal Illegal Aliens, He has put so much regulation on business that many had to shut down, he has incited cop violence by allowing a hate group like BLM to visit Whitehouse and praise them , He has weakened our Military and thus making us weaker in the world, He is more concerned in non americans future than Americans by all his executive actions like DACA and DAPA

Black hole, what black hole? Do you mean the abyss that was waiting for Obama when he took office? We're no longer in that abyss.

I agree that race relations are at lowest point they have been in a long time.

Our borders have been open to uneducated and criminal illegal aliens since I can remember. That's Obama's fault how?

How has he weakened our military?

I'm not a big fan of DACA or DAPA, but I'm also not a big fan of splitting up families or deporting people from the only country they've ever known because they were brought here as innocent children. There are tough decisions that have to be made and I'm glad I don't have to make some of them.

[smilesammich 10,727]

i disagree that race relations are the worst they've been in a long time. i think we have a very clear divide between those who acknowledge racism exists and those who don't. i don't actually believe the racial divide is drawn on race, but more on perspective.