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No, someone had like 1200 games, can't remember who. Obama is probably in the top 10. But you're right, it's not just the golf. It's the when. When people are dying, when our country is deeper in debt than ever before.

That was before Eisenhower. I believe it was Woodrow Wilson.

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GW Bush played 24 games in 8 years. Obama, over 300 in 8 years. So yeah, in the part 16 years, during which I have been more aware of the goings-on in DC, it seems Obama has played a lot of golf. A lot of why it bothers me, admittedly, is the way the media talks about it... "Situation X is unfolding, but Obama is currently playing a round of golf".

Most presidents play golf. All but about 4 or 5, it seems. But guess what? I didn't much care, nor pay attention much prior to 20 years ago. I liked why Bush stopped playing; it showed a respect for troops that Obama has never shown. The difference is that when presidents were doing it 20 or more years ago, few knew about it, because we didn't have MSM.

Am I sensitive? That's humorous, no one in my life has ever called me that. Thank you.

Yes, shame on me for not knowing more about the Whitney Houston flag debacle. I only know I saw a flag at half-staff, and had to ask why. Lived in Alaska at the time, so I guess it reached a tad farther than just Christie, eh? But since I haven't had cable TV for more than 15 years, and care little to watch the "news", I never learned any more about it than I did that day in 2012.

Your last paragraph is accurate, and nowhere in the past year have I seen it exemplified more than I have in the past couple of months. Even here on VJ. You're right, it IS something else.

GW Bush chose to not play golf. That's fine. His actual number of vacation days however still far exceeded Obama's. So while maybe he wasn't playing golf, he was out on his ranch riding a horse or something.

I've also never seen an article about some critical national security event occuring "but Obama is playing golf". It's not like they wait to disturb him until after the 18th hole. If something happens he can stop mid-game.

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I'm not going to say what each individual's reason is, but in general. If we had a time machine, we could go back well back before his first vacation or his first golf game while in office and have the same discussion.

You are sensitive to a lot of things, I guess. You posted incorrectly about Obama lowering the flag for Whitney Houston. You posted about being surprised he attended a Veterans day memorial even though he hasn't missed one. You are unhappy about his golf and vacation time even though they are lower than many previous presidents. Something has made you (and many others) willing to buy into make believe in a way you haven't since you were about 6 years old.

Go back eight years ago it was because he was a Muslim. He was the anti-Christ. He was born in Kenya or Indonesia or outer space. he was Hussein, or he was Barry Sueto.

It's a human characteristic that people will readily believe the things that they really want to believe, even when it doesn't make sense otherwise. It's not a new phenomenon. I've just never seen it on such a large scale in a large group of individuals in my life time. It's been something else.

Well said my man. I honestly don't know where you find the patience sometimes.

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Well said my man. I honestly don't know where you find the patience sometimes.

ikr, i find myself feeling a bit calmer after reading a good dakine breakdown.

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Well said my man. I honestly don't know where you find the patience sometimes.

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ikr, i find myself feeling a bit calmer after reading a good dakine breakdown.

Thank you both, but my patience had run out long before you made these posts. It's like a remake of the movie Groundhog Day in here sometimes, only with all the funny parts cut out.

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