Trump's U - turns

[millefleur 5,046]

Yes peace. Glorious peace Comrades. Because we all know bowing down to Putin as our king and putting his boot upon our necks in submission is the best way to achieve peace... because if you do not he will kill you into thousand smashed pieces.. or subjugate you by force. People are saying.

Honestly, even though Hillary was tipped to win the Election, few people in Russia seemed that worried about WW3 breaking out. I think the whole "Hillary is going to bring WW3!!" hysteria started in the US media, and then the Russian government took the ball and ran with it, gleefully delighting in the fact that they could be so threatening to Americans again. Putin loves being perceived as that powerful and scary! Meanwhile Russia's best scientists and engineers are fleeing en masse...

Edited November 13, 2016 by millefleur

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Donald Trump is a US Citizen and US news, no need to going thru 3rd party to get your news, Get it direct if you are here in the Grand Ole USA

Fencing would be appropriate in some parts of the southwest especially in the middle of the desert where there barren land. The wall will be where it needs to be placed.

It will actually be easy to get a hand on illegal immigration in the USA, just enforce the laws on the books and place a fine of $25,000 to individualesne who employees or transports illegals in the USA. You get caught with handful of illegal aliens working for you and you have the federal government give you $100,000 fines for hiring 4 illegals aliens, the issue of illegals in the USA will solve itself. They will all take back home and self deport

Where I get my news is my choice. I like to hear news from many different sources. According to you our media is corrupt

so did you make a U turn on that too ? Now you tell me to get it from the USA ? Which is it ? What third party news ?

What does me listening to BBC news have to do with Trump being a USC ? You are confused.

I said nothing different then what you said Trump directly said about the fencing. He said it in the 60 Minute interview preview and BBC

happen to send me a notification of the preview which I then read on route. I really don't owe you an explanation

of what news sources I utilize and be my guest to fact check everything I type.

Bottom line is he said in every speech that he will build a wall, a beautiful big wall Mexico will pay for.

The U turn is that the big beautiful wall will now consist of a part fence. You are missing the point.

Trump's braggadocious exaggerations are dry farts that smell and his wall is crumbling like a cookie.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Scary, isn't it, how much he sounds exactly like Obama in regards to pre- and post-election promises. It remains to be seen if he actually keeps any. But the bar is so low on keeping promises following Obama, he should do just fine.

You are missing the point.

Trump's braggadocious exaggerations are dry farts that smell and his wall is crumbling like a cookie.

[millefleur 5,046]

Anyone who seriously believed in The Wall™ was naive as it gets. Underground tunnels anyone??

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Trumps U-turn. Watch on 60 mins. tonight.

Donald Trump will appear in his first extensive post-election interview Sunday on “60 Minutes” at 7 p.m. ET/PT

President-elect Donald Trump’s hard-line immigration stance was a central part of his campaign message in 2016 -- and he said in an interview airing Sunday that he plans to immediately deport approximately two to three million undocumented immigrants.

“What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, where a lot of these people, probably two million, it could be even three million, we are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate,” Trump said in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes.” “But we’re getting them out of our country, they’re here illegally.”

He continued by saying that after the border is “secure,” immigration officials will begin to make a “determination” about the remaining undocumented immigrants in the U.S.

“After the border is secure and after everything gets normalized, we’re going to make a determination on the people that they’re talking about who are terrific people, they’re terrific people but we are gonna make a determination at that,” he said. “But before we make that determination...it’s very important, we are going to secure our border.”

Asked whether he really plans to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border -- a proposal that served as a centerpiece of his campaign message -- Trump replied, “Yes.”

Since Trump’s election on Tuesday night, the realities of actually building that wall have begun to set in The Mexican government has publicly reminded him that Mexico will not pay for the wall. And asked about the wall, Trump transition co-chair Newt Gingrich said the wall was “a great campaign device.”

Trump also told “60 Minutes” that the border wall, which was one of the centerpieces of his campaign platform, could be part wall and “some fencing,” in accordance with what congressional Republicans have proposed.

“For certain areas I would, but certain areas, a wall is more appropriate,” he said. “I’m very good at this, it’s called construction.”

Again, that's where I got it from....60 minutes preview via BBC where he said exactly what I said about part

fencing.....YOU watch ! Then when you hear him mention the fence feel free to keep rolling and laughing, it is

definitely hilarious and I am laughing louder than you.

Sorry if your dream of a solid wall is shattered though. It was such a big beautiful one

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

A wall. A metaphor. A reform of current immigration enforcement. Making Mexico help pay for it. All good ideas. Some better than others. Not once during his entire campaign, did I really think Trump was going to build a physical wall. He's way too smart to think that is really an answer to keeping illegals out.

[yuna628 9,676]

A wall. A metaphor. A reform of current immigration enforcement. Making Mexico help pay for it. All good ideas. Some better than others. Not once during his entire campaign, did I really think Trump was going to build a physical wall. He's way too smart to think that is really an answer to keeping illegals out.

Now see here's the thing. I'm tired of people twisting themselves into pretzels about the wall. Either it's a physical wall or it's not. He's made it clear it was a physical wall - not once in his speeches, in interviews... Not once. And over and over again I've spoken to his supporters that do indeed believe it to be a physical wall. They can't explain how it will be paid for nor can they answer any of the valid criticisms about it, only that it will be great and real. They were serious. Adamant and angry. Then there were others rather late to the game, when faced with the reality and criticisms decided to twist the concept into a metaphor, after they listened to other republican commentators explaining the physical wall was a bunch of gobbledegook.

You never bought it sure. But you can count yourself among only one subset of persons. The rest will be watching, and if they don't get the wall as promised, well.. we'll see won't we.

Edited November 13, 2016 by yuna628

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Well, Yuna, you bring up a good point... There is ignorance in both parties. Sometimes, the ignorance outweighs the intelligence. Much like Sander's followers believing he would actually provide them free education without raising taxes. It's the same with a physical wall. Silly to build, when one can simply go around, under, or over it. Heck, I could fly a C-172 over the border at night, under the radar, between outposts, and probably not get caught for years. There are already areas of tunnels under the current fences. Yeah, a wall only keeps the honest folks on one side or another, much like a locked door.

[MarkPerry 488]

Anyone who seriously believed in The Wall™ was naive as it gets. Underground tunnels anyone??

Israel has a 440 mile wall and they have built barriers to stop tunneling as well, and their military has invested great efforts in technologies to detect, destroy and block them.

I would look at their wall as a blueprint for the Trumps Wall

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Scary, isn't it, how much he sounds exactly like Obama in regards to pre- and post-election promises. It remains to be seen if he actually keeps any. But the bar is so low on keeping promises following Obama, he should do just fine.

He sounds nothing like Obama but my condolences if you think so on your boy Trump who is all talk and already back peddling

his overblown speeches before being sworn in...wow. He was branding, not serious with promises.

Obama had opposition from the house and senate and did as much as was humanly possible.

I had very few complaints. You set the bar low, you pay the consequences.

Trump is not fit to lick Obama's boots, he can't possibly follow high standards, he sets them so low

with his xenophobic, misogynistic and narcissistic personality.

Watch him do the Limbo without falling on his back and struggle like a bug.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

We probably need to add pretzels to the sammich shop. With cheese please.

[MarkPerry 488]

Bottom line is he said in every speech that he will build a wall, a beautiful big wall Mexico will pay for.

The U turn is that the big beautiful wall will now consist of a part fence. You are missing the point.

Trump's braggadocious exaggerations are dry farts that smell and his wall is crumbling like a cookie.

Trump won the election 5 days ago, He has no cabinets, and it in very early stages of Transaction. He doesn't take the Oath until January 20th, Which I hope to be there.

You are the stereotypical Obama lover who had knew HIllary had the election wrapped up. Give Trump time to work his magic let him assume the office of President first

You bought into the silly Hope/Change sell pitch by Obama and you were delivered an empty promise, Now hold on to your seat and watch the real Change come by Trump Making America Great Again.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Trump won the election 5 days ago, He has no cabinets, and it in very early stages of Transaction. He doesn't take the Oath until January 20th, Which I hope to be there.

You are the stereotypical Obama lover who had knew HIllary had the election wrapped up. Give Trump time to work his magic let him assume the office of President first

You bought into the silly Hope/Change sell pitch by Obama and you were delivered an empty promise, Now hold on to your seat and watch the real Change come by Trump Making America Great Again.

Yes, I like Obama and thought Hillary had it wrapped up. Guilty as charged.

I bought into the hope and change and got my goods delivered. Thank you Obama.

The change that T boy brings.....not so much.

I am watching though, beleeeve me.

[eieio 1,594]

A wall,a fence, razor wire, machine guns, explosives……I don't care what it takes to secure the border.

Personally, I would prefer a double fence, with razor wire on top and in-between. More like the fences that surround prisons. A solid wall does not allow you to see who may be hiding on the other side…..plus….makes it harder to shoot through

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

A wall,a fence, razor wire, machine guns, explosives……I don't care what it takes to secure the border.

Personally, I would prefer a double fence, with razor wire on top and in-between. More like the fences that surround prisons. A solid wall does not allow you to see who may be hiding on the other side…..plus….makes it harder to shoot through

Don't quit your day job just yet though I get the feeling you would love to "work" from behind that fence.

Life is not a video game comes to mind.