Trump's U - turns

[eieio 1,594]

So a nuclear war with Russia is the better choice? We should all be thanking wikileaks for exposing the corruption of the Clintons and their foundation. That will go down as one of the darkest chapters in America history. Selling the SOS office to the highest bidder. Hopefully the investigations continue and all those responsible will be locked up.

We will have to wait and see how things shake out. Equal justice for all!

[eieio 1,594]

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

The two big things that he said he would look into keeping are one of the only things that I agree with about the law. I like being able to have pre-existing conditions and get insurance. Because people do need to be covered no matter what, but the thing that hurt Obamacare the most was alot of the write ins that added on to soothe it through different parts of the Democratic Party. I don't like as a male having to pay for preventive pregnancy issues with women when I as a male do not use them. There were alot of issues with the ACA that caused it to be a bloated mess that was not cost effective at all.

Also I don't like the part where a 26 year old person can still be on their parent's insurance. That just pissed me off especially because I am a Millennial and this just fueled the flames about "lazy Millennials not wanting a job so they can stay on their parent's insurance".

One of the big issues with the ACA and caused it to drive up prices is that in some states and areas their was only one company offering insurance. The companies were not able to compete across states lines. If they could do that then I believe it would drive the costs down.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Perhaps YOU need to go back and review the last 10 presidents' campaign promises before they got elected. Hint: They all promise the world, while being able to deliver a basketball.

They really need to start teaching the false equivalency fallacy in schools

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

So the Democratic Coalition and Occupy Democrats disagree with the FBI investigation, and you think there is a problem?

Yet when the FBI cleared Hillary due to her having "no intent" we were supposed to just accept it and let her go? Give me a break. He's not even in office yet, and they are trying to discredit him. *SMH*

[MarkPerry 488]

[Rob L 3,811]

I was gone a few days, when did VJ turn into redpill?

Perhaps YOU need to go back and review the last 10 presidents' campaign promises before they got elected. Hint: They all promise the world, while being able to deliver a basketball.

Are you saying you never expected Trump to deliver?

[OriZ 3,157]

The two big things that he said he would look into keeping are one of the only things that I agree with about the law. I like being able to have pre-existing conditions and get insurance. Because people do need to be covered no matter what, but the thing that hurt Obamacare the most was alot of the write ins that added on to soothe it through different parts of the Democratic Party. I don't like as a male having to pay for preventive pregnancy issues with women when I as a male do not use them. There were alot of issues with the ACA that caused it to be a bloated mess that was not cost effective at all.

Also I don't like the part where a 26 year old person can still be on their parent's insurance. That just pissed me off especially because I am a Millennial and this just fueled the flames about "lazy Millennials not wanting a job so they can stay on their parent's insurance".

One of the big issues with the ACA and caused it to drive up prices is that in some states and areas their was only one company offering insurance. The companies were not able to compete across states lines. If they could do that then I believe it would drive the costs down.

Over here in VT we only have two companies: BCBS, and MVP. Costs are decent though compared to most of the country and weren't going to rise next year unlike the rest...but that's due to heavy state subsidies. You could essentially be making 97000 a year for a household of four and only pay around 1,000 dollars a month for a family gold plan. Conversely though, if you went up to 98,000 there are no more subsidies and then your premium jumps to $1,700. Only making 50,000 a year? Gold family plan is only $500 a month(the subsidy would be almost 1200!)

Edited November 13, 2016 by OriZ

[Rob L 3,811]

 

Over here in VT we only have two companies: BCBS, and MVP. Costs are decent though compared to most of the country and weren't going to rise next year unlike the rest...but that's due to heavy state subsidies. You could essentially be making 97000 a year for a household of four and only pay around 1,000 dollars a month for a family gold plan. Conversely though, if you went up to 98,000 there are no more subsidies and then your premium jumps to $1,700. Only making 50,000 a year? Gold family plan is only $500 a month(the subsidy would be almost 1200!)

Just curious what deductable levels are with the gold plan?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I'm saying I expect Trump to keep about as many promises as most who are elected to that office. Yanno, like your boy Obama... Pretty much none. People say whatever they think will get them elected. It sucks, but it's a fact, Jack.

Are you saying you never expected Trump to deliver?

[Rob L 3,811]

So a nuclear war with Russia is the better choice?   We should all be thanking wikileaks for exposing the corruption of the Clintons and their foundation. That will go down as one of the darkest chapters in America history. Selling the SOS office to the highest bidder. Hopefully the investigations continue and all those responsible will be locked up.

 

We will have to wait and see how things shake out. Equal justice for all! 

There is no chain of custody on the WikiLeaks documents so we don't know what is real and what is propaganda, why do you think we were on a oath to ww3?

we do know the Putin loves the outcome of the election and that NATO members are nervous. I prefer to stick with our allies

[OriZ 3,157]

Just curious what deductable levels are with the gold plan?

One has an individual/family of $850/$1700 medical, $100 prescription. Max outta pocket 4,500/9000 for medical and 1300/2600 prescription.

Another, integrated deductible of 1250/2500 and similar max outta pocket

Both have real low copays

There's 3 other gold plans but with lower premiums than the ones I mentioned and in those the deductible is a little higher too

[eieio 1,594]

There is no chain of custody on the WikiLeaks documents so we don't know what is real and what is propaganda, why do you think we were on a oath to ww3?

we do know the Putin loves the outcome of the election and that NATO members are nervous. I prefer to stick with our allies

The election is over. No need to keep denying the obvious truth from wikileaks.

[MarkPerry 488]

There is no chain of custody on the WikiLeaks documents so we don't know what is real and what is propaganda, why do you think we were on a oath to ww3?

we do know the Putin loves the outcome of the election and that NATO members are nervous. I prefer to stick with our allies

A lot of leaders are happy Trump is in and Obama is out. Especially some of our closes allies like England and Philippines

Edited November 13, 2016 by MarkPerry

[Rob L 3,811]

 

The election is over. No need to keep denying the obvious truth from wikileaks.

every thing stated is factual....what truth am I denying?