new whitehouse immigration plan

[homesick_american 1]

Illegals are illegals! Why give them any consideration??

It would be unfair for those people that waited for several years to enter the U.S. legally. If these illegals are given amnesty, then maybe most of us would have wished that our relatives just crossed the borders illegally.

so, in my specific situation where my wife was given an incorrectly marked I-94, no fault of her own, incurred a violation in the law. technically she was in the US illegally for 190 days. doesn't she deserve _some_ consideration?

should she be treated equally with people who come to the US without inspection, without a visa, and work without paying taxes?

Your wife was the victim of a bureaucratic snafu and I was glad to hear her waiver was approved.

I think when people say 'illegal immigrant' they are most often thinking of people who:

• Enter the US without inspection by sneaking in
  
• Overstay on visas for years and years
  
• Enter the US on falsified documents
  

There are others of course, but speaking for myself those are the people I'm thinking of when I refer to 'illegal immigrants'.

[prpplague 0]

Your wife's case is different. As you said, it was no fault of her own. I was referring to those people intentionally breaking the law by crossing the border illegally.

I feel for your wife. She is a victim, not the offender.

problem is that right now, people who make a mistake are grouped in with those who intentionally break the law. legally, the only way to filter those who are trying to do the right thing from those who intentionally break the law, you need a series of penalties and methods for addressing them, in ever more increasing amount of punishment. For example:

1. A. first visa overstay - fine with quick processing

B. second visa overstay - fine with slow processing

C. third visa overstay - ban with possibility of a waiver+fine

2. A. First Entry Without Inspection - waiver+fine

B. Second EWI - ban without possibility of waiver

3. A. First Deportation - waiver+fine

B. Second Deportation - ban with possibility of waiver+fine

C. Third Deportation - ban without possibility of waiver

where "waiver" is not like the current I-601 or I-212, the waiver would be a form that would describe the reasons behind the offense, more or less a "plead your case" with evidence.

[Lovetoteach 53]

Your wife's case is different. As you said, it was no fault of her own. I was referring to those people intentionally breaking the law by crossing the border illegally.

I feel for your wife. She is a victim, not the offender.

problem is that right now, people who make a mistake are grouped in with those who intentionally break the law. legally, the only way to filter those who are trying to do the right thing from those who intentionally break the law, you need a series of penalties and methods for addressing them, in ever more increasing amount of punishment. For example:

1. A. first visa overstay - fine with quick processing

B. second visa overstay - fine with slow processing

C. third visa overstay - ban with possibility of a waiver+fine

2. A. First Entry Without Inspection - waiver+fine

B. Second EWI - ban without possibility of waiver

3. A. First Deportation - waiver+fine

B. Second Deportation - ban with possibility of waiver+fine

C. Third Deportation - ban without possibility of waiver

where "waiver" is not like the current I-601 or I-212, the waiver would be a form that would describe the reasons behind the offense, more or less a "plead your case" with evidence.

I totally agree with you and empathsise with your situation. I'm in a similar but different situation ( see my timeline) I came here on a K1, married an abuser, filed for VAWA then got divorced. My ex didn't go to my interview beasue he didn't the responbility of supporting me and my son. I was put into removal proceeding a year and half ago. It has taken since November 2005 to adjudicate my VAWA petition and it's still ongoing. All this time this has left me accruing even more unlawful presence. So my presence here is illegal but I am in the system and I am trying to do everything the legal way as I have always done. I have never intentionally broken the law either.

One thing I am curious about is how illegal people can get benefits, when I have actual authorisation (prima facie) to be allowed to get them but I can't here in Michigan. I guess it's a State thing

Shona