MEGATHREAD- What does a Trump Presidency mean for visas? (merged)

[sparkles_ 456]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Exactly

Still don't get the point being made by this example.

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

25 minutes ago, Dutchster said:

What bothers me the most is people here (as in where I live) telling me, "Calm down. You're white, no need to worry!" Excuse me? So because I am a white catholic human I have all the right but an islamic, light colored/dark colored human who shares the same values as me, just believes in another God, have to worry? White privilege at it's best. Sigh.

 

You believe in the same god.  You are also of "the Book", just like Jews.  You have a slightly more Roman pagan spin on it and the Muslims have a more desert Bedouin spin.  The fact that you seem to think you have different gods is interesting.

 

This isn't so much about religion or race, but rather culture as it always has been.  

 

Edited January 25, 2017 by N-o-l-a

[Dutchster 1,107]

1 minute ago, N-o-l-a said:

 

You believe in the same god.  You are also of "the Book", just like Jews.  You have a slightly more Roman pagan spin on it and the Muslims have a more desert Bedouin spin.  The fact that you seem to think you have different gods is worrying.

 

This isn't so much about religion or race, but rather culture as it always has been.  

 

Wait, let me rephrase that. That came out so wrong, I'm sorry! I don't think we have different Gods, I meant believes.

 

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

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Edited January 25, 2017 by Penguin_ie

[sarahandyunus 133]

Just now, MarriedAndDivorce said:

I am a Canadian citizen but I was born in Algeria. I am planning to start the K1, marry my girlfriend and move to the US. Do you think the ban will affect me? 

 

Thank you

I would suspect you'll be just fine  

[embay16 12]

2 hours ago, maxcool said:

Draft of the immigration executive order available at the Washington post website

 

https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/world/read-the-draft-of-the-executive-order-on-immigration-and-refugees/2289/

Wow.....   Do you guys think that the extreme vetting on all immigration programs will affect those with various applications in progress? It seems insane to consider whether someone can "make contributions to the national interest". As in what exactly is the national interest and who gets to decide that?

 

We could also be seeing some changes on forms in the very near future with "amended application forms that include questions aimed at identifying fraudulent answers and malicious intents". 

[Ermin&Zijada 141]

Really nervous with the executive order signed by Trump. Does the immigration ban only cover those countries listed or all muslim majority countries? My fiance is in Bosnia, a european country but it does have a slight majority of muslims.

[Dutchster 1,107]

I did not see countries on the list like Algeria and Bosnia. Just those of high concerns.

[Delirium 114]

1 hour ago, Dutchster said:

What bothers me the most is people here (as in where I live) telling me, "Calm down. You're white, no need to worry!" Excuse me? So because I am a white catholic human I have all the right but an islamic, light colored/dark colored human who shares the same values as me, just believes in another God, have to worry? White privilege at it's best. Sigh.

I think people focus on some of the radical behaviors associated with the religion that a few amount of people demonstrate  It's unfortunate, but it's not really a matter of "white privilege".  

[Dutchster 1,107]

I'm talking about the white privilege of the people who are telling me to not worry because I'm white lol.

[Marco&Bettina 502]

20 minutes ago, embay16 said:

Wow.....   Do you guys think that the extreme vetting on all immigration programs will affect those with various applications in progress? It seems insane to consider whether someone can "make contributions to the national interest". As in what exactly is the national interest and who gets to decide that?

 

We could also be seeing some changes on forms in the very near future with "amended application forms that include questions aimed at identifying fraudulent answers and malicious intents". 

Who gets to decided that are The Secretary of Homeland Security, The Director of National Intelligence, The Secretary of State, and the President, according to the wording in the draft itself. This is why who is voted into office and who their cabinet picks are are very important.

 

And yes, from my interpretation, this can affect any stage in your process from Visa to Citizenship. They can just stop it dead it its tracks if they see fit.

Edited January 25, 2017 by Marco&Bettina

[embay16 12]

7 minutes ago, Marco&Bettina said:

Who gets to decided that are The Secretary of Homeland Security, The Director of National Intelligence, The Secretary of State, and the President, according to the wording in the draft itself. This is why who is voted into office and who their cabinet picks are are very important.

Yes, very true.... I was speaking more broadly/theoretically because I was so dumbfounded that this could be included as part of a vetting procedure in code of "national security". Thanks for listing the specifics for those who do not know.

Edited January 25, 2017 by embay16

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

7 minutes ago, Marco&Bettina said:

Who gets to decided that are The Secretary of Homeland Security, The Director of National Intelligence, The Secretary of State, and the President, according to the wording in the draft itself. This is why who is voted into office and who their cabinet picks are are very important.

 

And yes, from my interpretation, this can affect any stage in your process from Visa to Citizenship. They can just stop it dead it its tracks if they see fit.

Yea.. the wording is "visas or other immigration benefits"... 

[sparkles_ 456]

43 minutes ago, MarriedAndDivorce said:

I am a Canadian citizen but I was born in Algeria. I am planning to start the K1, marry my girlfriend and move to the US. Do you think the ban will affect me? 

 

Thank you

So far, no

[sparkles_ 456]

47 minutes ago, embay16 said:

Wow.....   Do you guys think that the extreme vetting on all immigration programs will affect those with various applications in progress? It seems insane to consider whether someone can "make contributions to the national interest". As in what exactly is the national interest and who gets to decide that?

 

We could also be seeing some changes on forms in the very near future with "amended application forms that include questions aimed at identifying fraudulent answers and malicious intents". 

Contributions to the national interest, I know one. Military target languages for crypto and translators/interpreters. We used to run a program called MAVNI via the Army that took kids who spoke target languages from various legal, but non immigrant visas and allowed them to enlist and naturalize even in a short time. Why? National interest. Apparently languages like Arabic and Korean are super hard for English speakers to become fluent in, even after DLI training.

Edited January 25, 2017 by sparkles_