Draining the Ditch

[smilesammich 10,727]

isnt accusing someone of having a puppet account one of the many ban-able offenses on VJ

everything's ban-able, it just depends on who you offend. got your member card at the ready?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

That is amazing thing about President Trump. He had zero history in politics, He walked in and won the Presidency. He is living proof that any person in American can grow up to be a President of the USA.

Trump lost the popular vote by over two hundred thousand. I seem to recall a great deal of pre-election complaining that Trump would win the popular vote and lose by the much complained about electoral college.

Trump was geared up to reject the results had the opposing outcome actually happened. How come such a stellar, standup model of integrity didn't decline the electoral college results? You know, on principle?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Why would they need to be talked off the ledge. No longer will the liberal west coast of USA dictate what the US does. I have noticed a lot of Filipinos living in USA have been brained wash to be democrats. The more wise ones voted for Trump

Because as minorities (and one a female) they recognize the racist, sexist, silver spoon in the mouth, orange tinted, con-man buffoon for what his campaign stood for and was.

[Póg mo 1,749]

His net worth is 4.5 billion, Impressive to me

Sure, you have evidence to support that claim?

[Dakine10 5,452]

isnt accusing someone of having a puppet account one of the many ban-able offenses on VJ

A puppet account is an alternate account used specifically for deception or other mischief. Nobody is implying that has occurred.

Having a new account may be acceptable depending on the reason for closing the old one. Having two accounts at the same time is not allowed. Making AJ references should be understood to be a humorous reference to AJ's once prolific posting regimen.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Trump lost the popular vote by over two hundred thousand. I seem to recall a great deal of pre-election complaining that Trump would win the popular vote and lose by the much complained about electoral college.

Trump was geared up to reject the results had the opposing outcome actually happened. How come such a stellar, standup model of integrity didn't decline the electoral college results? You know, on principle?

I predicted hillary would win the popular vote by 2%. I think I win the contest

[bcking 3,157]

I predicted hillary would win the popular vote by 2%. I think I win the contest

You have to admit that a victory via the electoral college without the popular vote does soften the "mandate" that people argue Presidents have when they take office.

Regardless of who wins presidential elections, the convoluted "semi"-democracy we have is a little wonky. Again while I don't question the validity of his victory, I would argue that saying things like "The people spoke and they chose him" is a little bit false considering if you actually just took what the people voted for Hillary would have won. He won mostly because the people that voted him were more sufficiently spread out to win him more states. The total number of people however, not so much.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Are you saying that AJ is one and the same ast TCO?

A puppet account is an alternate account used specifically for deception or other mischief. Nobody is implying that has occurred.

Having a new account may be acceptable depending on the reason for closing the old one. Having two accounts at the same time is not allowed. Making AJ references should be understood to be a humorous reference to AJ's once prolific posting regimen.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

A puppet account is an alternate account used specifically for deception or other mischief. Nobody is implying that has occurred.

Having a new account may be acceptable depending on the reason for closing the old one. Having two accounts at the same time is not allowed. Making AJ references should be understood to be a humorous reference to AJ's once prolific posting regimen.

That was good. You should be a mod

[eieio 1,594]

That's the thing though, it's never been about Trump for me. He's the puppet. What concerns me are the men behind the man behind the curtain if you will. It's a good thing to be optimistic sure, but anyone will tell you that I've never been that kind of person. The outside world constantly refers to the American optimism, and sometimes it's our optimism that gets us into heaps of trouble and leads us to make horrific decisions historically. We never learn as a people. No one does. The swamp isn't going to get drained but those in the swamp may have to redefine how they operate for survival purposes. No one ever wants to believe that a dictator can rise (not saying that he is one and not saying that he isn't one - only that we run a real risk lately, globally of giving rise to a new arch-type of these entities) and that is precisely how they rise historically. So I believe we're heading into a new territory not just here but globally, and a dangerous one for all people, because those guarding the gates have been lazy and greedy. I would be more cautious and not as optimistic as you would be than to say things will more or less carry on with the status quo with a few changes here or there. That's just a different perspective of course. I would say that we are de-evolving as a people or that we've reached a plateau. My husband would disagree, and only argue that we are growing smarter, but we aren't necessarily outpacing the stupid people in this world.

Like the people I encountered in the gun aisle.. they weren't voting for Trump because they believed a word he said, they were voting for the men behind the man behind the curtain. Pence, his numerous advisors, the alt-right. They voted for him because they hope God will erase him in some way and put the others in his place, as a sign and reward of their obedience. The elements behind him are more dangerous than himself. Just my perspective, we'll see what ends up being right.

Last paragraph.

Where the heck are you running into those kind of Trump supporters? I am sure some are like that and they could just be mostly anti-Clinton.

Thats not any of the Trump supporters I know personally and out of thousands online…..that is not how most of us feel. We love Trump. We don't care about Pence. He was mostly just along to get never trumpers on board and appeal to the religious right. He is a fine man….but he is no Trump. Trump fights back against the media, terrorism,illegal immigration, liberals and useless republicans. By the way….we think the house and senate suck and that includes most republicans. We care about equal justice and the rule of law. Just like trump we don't worry about your sexual identity. But that doesn't mean we have to stop with jokes. We think political correctness has gone to far.

Trumps has the ability to out preform almost everyones expectations. He has the skills and mindset to become a great president. He knows how to read people and he also knows how to get things done. It is no mistake that he is president elect.

[eieio 1,594]

thanks dnc! you earned this!

There is a lot of truth to that. Hard to say if they they will change. People suspected what they did, but wikileaks ,put the nail in the coffin for millions of democrat voters.

or maybe just a million.

Edited November 10, 2016 by eieio

[SunflowerSweet 1,321]

Complaining about butthurt while comparing your political opponents to filth? Nothing dissonant about that.

Being a sore winner is no nobler than a sore loser.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I predicted hillary would win the popular vote by 2%. I think I win the contest

I didn't make a prediction but did feel Trump winning was roughly on par with North Korea becoming a Democracy and making peace with the outside world.

[OriZ 3,157]

I said the one thing I can safely predict is it will be tight...and tight it was.

[yuna628 9,677]

Last paragraph.

Where the heck are you running into those kind of Trump supporters? I am sure some are like that and they could just be mostly anti-Clinton.

Thats not any of the Trump supporters I know personally and out of thousands online…..that is not how most of us feel. We love Trump. We don't care about Pence. He was mostly just along to get never trumpers on board and appeal to the religious right. He is a fine man….but he is no Trump. Trump fights back against the media, terrorism,illegal immigration, liberals and useless republicans. By the way….we think the house and senate suck and that includes most republicans. We care about equal justice and the rule of law. Just like trump we don't worry about your sexual identity. But that doesn't mean we have to stop with jokes. We think political correctness has gone to far.

Trumps has the ability to out preform almost everyones expectations. He has the skills and mindset to become a great president. He knows how to read people and he also knows how to get things done. It is no mistake that he is president elect.

Everywhere in this town (and it's not just my town either)? And it doesn't take too hard of a look to find them online in droves either.

Pence is Pence. I will never cross the line and call him a fine man by any means. He is a person that believes in electro-shock conversion therapy for gay people, has alarming stances on women, and by all accounts had infuriated his own wife by joining Trump in this endeavor. I actually feel alarmed for Mrs. Pence that now has to bear such a burden. He is now second-in-command, and may actually be making greater decisions than the populace has bargained for.. so we'll see about how 'fine' he is.