Draining the Ditch

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

sigh. don't even have the energy for this. i guess for the next four years, ya'll are gonig to feel teetotally justified in your warped view that black people are the racists and white people suffer this racism from blacks and muslims and hispanics everyday. delusional, but you've been validated by dear leader. i get it, sure. you're safe in your own skin

but there have been more than two cops shot in the past week, and they were shot by white men. ignore the issue all you want, but its not the sort of thing that's escapable long term in society

Yes white people commit crime. Difference I don't burn down cities when a white thug tries to smoke a cop and gets kilt in the process

[smilesammich 10,727]

Yes white people commit crime. Difference I don't burn down cities when a white thug tries to smoke a cop and gets kilt in the process

so, you're willing to excuse a huge spike in violence against police when the suspects are white. got it.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

so, you're willing to excuse a huge spike in violence against police when the suspects are white. got it

[smilesammich 10,727]

so, you're willing to excuse a huge spike in violence against police when the suspects are white. got it

doesn't matter, i remember.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

If that's what you think he meant, you're an idiot. I suspect you DON'T really think that, rather you are trying to deflect.

Truth is, both black and white cops kill both black and white people. If it's in the line of duty when a white person is killed, no one loots nor riots. If a black is killed in the line of duty, BLM and blacks all over go nuts, claiming it's racism in action.

If either a black or white victim is killed unjustly by a cop, justice should be sought, and the offending officer(s) should be removed from duty and prosecuted according to our laws. THAT is NB's message, and you know it, even if you are trying to promote an argument.

so, you're willing to excuse a huge spike in violence against police when the suspects are white. got it.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

If that's what you think he meant, you're an idiot. I suspect you DON'T really think that, rather you are trying to deflect.

Truth is, both black and white cops kill both black and white people. If it's in the line of duty when a white person is killed, no one loots nor riots. If a black is killed in the line of duty, BLM and blacks all over go nuts, claiming it's racism in action.

If either a black or white victim is killed unjustly by a cop, justice should be sought, and the offending officer(s) should be removed from duty and prosecuted according to our laws. THAT is NB's message, and you know it, even if you are trying to promote an argument.

Thank you You know I hate to type. Val is a good gal, it's just everything she thought she knew has been turned on its head .Racism and sexism are just her primordial defense to deal with truths she can't accept. She will evolve, I have faith in that

[smilesammich 10,727]

If that's what you think he meant, you're an idiot. I suspect you DON'T really think that, rather you are trying to deflect.

Truth is, both black and white cops kill both black and white people. If it's in the line of duty when a white person is killed, no one loots nor riots. If a black is killed in the line of duty, BLM and blacks all over go nuts, claiming it's racism in action.

If either a black or white victim is killed unjustly by a cop, justice should be sought, and the offending officer(s) should be removed from duty and prosecuted according to our laws. THAT is NB's message, and you know it, even if you are trying to promote an argument.

deflect? you guys aren't even following what i'm saying. please spare me the mansplaining if you can't even get the subject matter. argument? why is it an argument? i'm stating fact and asking why you're not beligerant - as you would have been should the perp been black/blm.

COPS KILLED BY WHITE MEN in the past week, look it up.

Thank you You know I hate to type. Val is a good gal, it's just everything she thought she knew has been turned on its head .Racism and sexism are just her primordial defense to deal with truths she can't accept. She will evolve, I have faith in that

oh i'm gonna evolve alright.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Mansplaning. Rofl

That was good

You rock

[bcking 3,157]

If that's what you think he meant, you're an idiot. I suspect you DON'T really think that, rather you are trying to deflect.

Truth is, both black and white cops kill both black and white people. If it's in the line of duty when a white person is killed, no one loots nor riots. If a black is killed in the line of duty, BLM and blacks all over go nuts, claiming it's racism in action.

If either a black or white victim is killed unjustly by a cop, justice should be sought, and the offending officer(s) should be removed from duty and prosecuted according to our laws. THAT is NB's message, and you know it, even if you are trying to promote an argument.

I don't actually have data on this, but if you know of an article with stats please let me know.

My impression, and again this may be wrong and if it is wrong please show me the statistics, is that while you're right both black/white cops kill black/white innocent people, there are far more cases of white cops killing innocent black people who are unarmed and pose no threat. Yes all the other combinations happen, but not with the same regularlity.

If that is wrong please correct me, but correct me with data. I'd like to see if it exists because I'm not aware of any of the stats.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

His net worth is 4.5 billion, Impressive to me

I am a small business owner, I have had 6 business in my career. I have had two that were pretty successful. I have had couple that were a wash in the end, and the others were basically paid me a salary. As they say you have to loose to learn how to win. The winners are the ones who fail and keep on going, that is the hard part and also that is the key that makes you successful.

Yes the Trump rags to riches, pulled himself up by the bootstraps story was probably what turned the corner for him in this election.

[bcking 3,157]

Yes the Trump rags to riches, pulled himself up by the bootstraps story was probably what turned the corner for him in this election.

His bootstraps were laced with money and connections that he was born into

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I don't actually have data on this, but if you know of an article with stats please let me know.

My impression, and again this may be wrong and if it is wrong please show me the statistics, is that while you're right both black/white cops kill black/white innocent people, there are far more cases of white cops killing innocent black people who are unarmed and pose no threat. Yes all the other combinations happen, but not with the same regularlity.

If that is wrong please correct me, but correct me with data. I'd like to see if it exists because I'm not aware of any of the stats.

Your wrong. More whites are killed every year by cops than blacks

[bcking 3,157]

Your wrong. More whites are killed every year by cops than blacks

1. Provide the data please

2. I was talking specifically about "unarmed" victims.

3. Also be careful to distinguish between absolute numbers and proportions. More white people may be killed, but they also make up something like 60% or more of the US population.

[bcking 3,157]

If your defense I didn't initially specify I was talking about proporations, I spoke about cases. So you're right on that. In my head I was adjusting for population.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/

Washington post has a database that they started a little while back. So yes, more white people in absolute number, but white people are 62% of the population. Black people are about 12% and make up 24%.

Also, if you just look at the people who were killed and were "unarmed" and/or "toy weapon", the percentage of black people goes up to 34%, almost triple the percentage compared to the population of black people as a whole (~12%).

Edited November 10, 2016 by bcking

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

If your defense I didn't initially specify I was talking about proporations, I spoke about cases. So you're right on that. In my head I was adjusting for population.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/

Washington post has a database that they started a little while back. So yes, more white people in absolute number, but white people are 62% of the population. Black people are about 12% and make up 24%.

Also, if you just look at the people who were killed and were "unarmed" and/or "toy weapon", the percentage of black people goes up to 34%, almost triple the percentage compared to the population of black people as a whole (~12%).

But Black people commit over 45% of the violent crime in the US so of course they are going to have more encounters with the police

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43

Edited November 10, 2016 by Nature Boy Flair