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[MrsBurgz 104]

A question was ask, many gave answers that was not in the OPs favor. Why bother asking if you don't want multiply persons answering truthfully?

I rather see multply responses to my question rather than nobody responding....

[Unlockable 7,315]

The OP specifically asked for advice in her first post. Yes some may seem curt but that usually happens when open advice is solicited.

As for the experience, the count is in favor of the visa not being ready based on the replies. Yes the few that it did take a few days make it possible. But the response has been mainly that it is not probable.

[JessDak 27]

The OP specifically asked for advice in her first post. Yes some may seem curt but that usually happens when open advice is solicited.

As for the experience, the count is in favor of the visa not being ready based on the replies. Yes the few that it did take a few days make it possible. But the response has been mainly that it is not probable.

Exactly. OP asked for advice. Advice is something like 'this is what you can do in this situation' (such as my telling her that delta will let you change tickets for free if travel documents are pending)

advice is NOT: 'NO you wasted your money, you should have known better!!!!' That is not advice. That is not even constructive criticism as OP specifically stated in the first post that she knows she should have waited but took a chance due to the price difference between buying the ticket now and waiting for the prices to increase.

I'll state again (since this community seems to like attacking people) that I agree that OP should have waited, however that time has passed. Making her feel bad about her decision does not change it. Giving her advice on what to do if the visa is not ready however, does help her make her next decision.

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

Exactly. OP asked for advice. Advice is something like 'this is what you can do in this situation' (such as my telling her that delta will let you change tickets for free if travel documents are pending)

advice is NOT: 'NO you wasted your money, you should have known better!!!!' That is not advice. That is not even constructive criticism as OP specifically stated in the first post that she knows she should have waited but took a chance due to the price difference between buying the ticket now and waiting for the prices to increase.

I'll state again (since this community seems to like attacking people) that I agree that OP should have waited, however that time has passed. Making her feel bad about her decision does not change it. Giving her advice on what to do if the visa is not ready however, does help her make her next decision.

I think many told her to change the ticket.

and she continued hoping so she was told the truth. I have had my shares of flying canons thrown my way I def can relate.

but hoping is not going to fix anything.

OP can always wait till last possible minute and cancel if its not approved/issued (its what I did).

Edited November 8, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[JessDak 27]

I think many told her to change the ticket.

and she continued hoping so she was told the truth. I have had my shares of flying canons thrown my way I def can relate.

but hoping is not going to fix anything.

OP can always wait till last possible minute and cancel if its not approved/issued (its what I did).

And the majority of them spoke down on her for buying the ticket. She is not a child to be scolded. If people just responded with something along the lines of 'I advise you to change your ticket' then that would be different. However people took the time to scold OP as if she is a child and that is not called for.

Also Anita, I hope that you do not think I am attacking you because your responses were not lumped in to the ones I felt were uncalled for. Your responses were not offensive, just stating facts (as far as i recall, I did not go back and re-read them).

The ones I take issue to are the ones saying 'No, its impossible' When clearly it's not impossible if its happened. Unlikely, sure, but impossible, no.

And the posts offering no help whatsoever. The ones who seemed to just jump in and say something along the lines of 'that was a silly decision and now you've wasted money'....that is not advice at all and as it has been said multiple times on this post it only serves to make OP feel bad about something she cannot go back and change

[Russ&Caro 1,549]

Exactly. OP asked for advice. Advice is something like 'this is what you can do in this situation' (such as my telling her that delta will let you change tickets for free if travel documents are pending)

advice is NOT: 'NO you wasted your money, you should have known better!!!!' That is not advice. That is not even constructive criticism as OP specifically stated in the first post that she knows she should have waited but took a chance due to the price difference between buying the ticket now and waiting for the prices to increase.

I'll state again (since this community seems to like attacking people) that I agree that OP should have waited, however that time has passed. Making her feel bad about her decision does not change it. Giving her advice on what to do if the visa is not ready however, does help her make her next decision.

Good points, made, so I'll follow this direction.

1. Look into transferability of ticket and prepare to sell the ticket if you can, assuming your visa goes into Admin Processing status.

2. Look at what a change fee would cost to change the ticket.

3. Look at the situation in a positive way, like going for 2 bingos instead of just the 1. Yeah, the extra playing card cost some extra money, but if you get 2 bingos you get twice the payoff. In this case, you're on the verge of being approved, "bingo!" And, maybe, just maybe, you'll get a POE just 2 days after approval, "2nd bingo!" It's still a pretty good deal if you only get 1 bingo.

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

And the majority of them spoke down on her for buying the ticket. She is not a child to be scolded. If people just responded with something along the lines of 'I advise you to change your ticket' then that would be different. However people took the time to scold OP as if she is a child and that is not called for.

Also Anita, I hope that you do not think I am attacking you because your responses were not lumped in to the ones I felt were uncalled for. Your responses were not offensive, just stating facts (as far as i recall, I did not go back and re-read them).

The ones I take issue to are the ones saying 'No, its impossible' When clearly it's not impossible if its happened. Unlikely, sure, but impossible, no.

And the posts offering no help whatsoever. The ones who seemed to just jump in and say something along the lines of 'that was a silly decision and now you've wasted money'....that is not advice at all and as it has been said multiple times on this post it only serves to make OP feel bad about something she cannot go back and change

I understand and no worries...

I did it too so I know first finances were bad and I thought I was ok with my approval...what a surprise.

32 days in AP.

But I learned as did my wallet lol.

[Thegirl 225]

When you ask people's opinion you will get people's opinion so most people said no because that's whats likely and that's what's been the experience at this specific embassy. If you only want to hear a specific answer then ask people who will tell you what you want to hear. Most people wished you luck and told you to let us know what happened.

[Cheezees 1,514]

What is up with this community??? How many people does it take to make OP feel bad? Once somebody has said no, having 500 other people say no doesn't quite help. If the answer is no, and tons of other people have already said no, then how about you give advice instead of just saying things like 'no, you should have known better, you wasted money, etc, etc,etc'.

It's also frustrating given that there are at least 3 people who posted on here (including me) who got ours within 2 days so no it is not impossible. No the document is not THAT SENSITIVE that it takes DAYS to produce. Yes I agree it is unlikely, however what I say does not impact the case, it only impacts the mental health of OP. So I share my story of getting it in 2 days and wish OP good luck. SMH some people on here are just excited to make somebody miserable

One of the beauties of this forum is that as a group were get to share various experiences, opinions, and thoughts. The more people respond, the more advice is informed and reinforced. Now anyone reading this thread will know that a ticket should not be bought without the visa in hand, and that getting the visa in 2 days around the holidays is unrealistic. One or 2 people getting the visa in 2 days among a sea of others not getting it in that short span of time goes to show the likelihood of it happening. In the vast majority of cases it is not possible and in a very small minority, it is. So having 500 other people say no is in fact helpful to everyone (as is the 3 people saying yes!). If you read your own post carefully you will notice you have not offered the OP advice either - you offered a "I got mine in 2 days, good luck OP" preceded by a "shame of all of you who said no after the 1st person".

[JessDak 27]

My visa took about 8 days from my interview until I received it. This is because I did my physical exam the day after the interview. On the day of my interview I was approved on the spot, but the officer told me they could not grant the visa until the medical results were back. They told me to take my passport with me after the interview because I would need it for the physical, and that I should bring it back on Tuesday (because that was apparently the only day they allow drop off's) I did my interview, and came back on Tuesday. At that point they told me the visa will be ready to pick up by Thursday (2 days later). So yes. it is possible to have it printed in 2 days (at least with the embassy in the Bahamas). We did not rush, I hadn't bought a ticket and the wedding wasn't planned for a few more weeks. They just had it printed in 2 days because that's all the time they needed from the time they had my passport in hand (if your SO gets approved on the spot typically they keep the passport and have the person return a few days later to pick it up with the visa).

All that said. If his visa is not ready in time you still might have options. I know delta allows you to change tickets free of charge if there is a delay in travel documents. I have had a family member in the past have to do this because his tourist visa was not ready in time for the flight. So the delta agents suspended his ticket and once he had the visa in hand they put him on the next flight free of charge. I am only familiar with delta but it is possible that other airlines have this option too so you should look into that just in case.

One of the beauties of this forum is that as a group were get to share various experiences, opinions, and thoughts. The more people respond, the more advice is informed and reinforced. Now anyone reading this thread will know that a ticket should not be bought without the visa in hand, and that getting the visa in 2 days around the holidays is unrealistic. One or 2 people getting the visa in 2 days among a sea of others not getting it in that short span of time goes to show the likelihood of it happening. In the vast majority of cases it is not possible and in a very small minority, it is. So having 500 other people say no is in fact helpful to everyone (as is the 3 people saying yes!). If you read your own post carefully you will notice you have not offered the OP advice either - you offered a "I got mine in 2 days, good luck OP" preceded by a "shame of all of you who said no after the 1st person".

Actually if you read my first post (I've quoted it here to make it easier) I did offer advice to OP. I told her that as far as I know, having a pending travel document is grounds for a change of ticket (free of charge according to Deltas regulations and I can only assume other airlines might offer this as well).

[MrsBurgz 104]

Assumptions are never good advice.

[JessDak 27]

Assumptions are never good advice.

What assumption have I made? I know for a fact that delta does this, so that is not an assumption. I don't know which airline OP purchased the ticket through. If it was through delta then as far as I'm concerned that is perfect advice. However I do not know if OP purchased the ticket through delta so i'm advising OP if their ticket is not through Delta that they should check to see if they have a similar policy.

What is an assumption is assuming that her fiancee will not get the visa in time. Nobody can look into the future. Stating that you don't think it will be ready is not an assumption, but stating 'No, its impossible' (as many people on here have done) is an assumption

Edit: Also it is becoming very clear that we are getting off topic. Your comment has nothing to do with OP. It is a desperate attack at my comment that does not effect the issue at hand

Edited November 8, 2016 by JessDak

[LionessDeon 2,060]

This is the seond post I have read today where the OP asked for "answers??" and when VJers give their "answer" we are accused of bashing and attacking. I'm non-confrontational. My aim is never to attack or bash anyone. But if VJ members would simply read and research prior to making certain decisions, I feel like that would go a long way. The OP knew exactly what she was doing and knew the risks, I believe. Then she solicited other opinions.

Since when did we all get so sensitive and self conscious? I've ran into many snags in my immigration journey. Posters told me to "just breathe" and "relax". I never once got defensive because they were 100% right. Everyone here has been very supportive of each other. Some just don't like the answers and opinions they get.

BTW, thanks again VJ, for all the help you've given me!

[angelbrown 195]

Sigh? She didn't really ask for advice, but rather a yes or no question. Anyway.

Advice...

1. Just ask, they will say yes or no.

2. If no, try to change the ticket.

3. If that fails, you lose money which you knew was a risk if you didn't buy a nonrefundable ticket (and I'm assuming you didn't since you were trying to get the lowest price)

Don't take things personal on a public website where you're asking questions. I don't think anybody's here to bash or make anyone feel bad. If you ask a question, expect the answer may not be what you want to hear. As JessDak said, the forum is to share experiences. Most of us shared that it is unlikely based on our experience. Also, it could depend on a number of factors as to why some cases were processed quickly after the interview. And sometimes it is necessary for multiple people to reply the same in order to get a true representation. Not to mention some people on here are very experienced as they've been on here a long time and have seen numerous cases. Lastly, stop thinking those consular officers care about the personal issues in your specific case. Everyone wants to be reunited with their spouse as soon as possible. You're just another number in the stack of their workload. I'm not saying you won't luck up in front of one who "cares" but....hope for the best but know there's a chance it may not go that way.