Abortion Discussion [split topic]

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I don't think it's fair to say many supporters of the second want to toss out the rest. I support all of the constitution including the 2nd. That includes the right of morons to burn the flag, I am a huge supporter of the 4th. I support gay rights under the equal protection clause and the right of wimmens to choose.

Whenn Hillary answered her who would you appointment question , she never mentioned the Constitution, but did mention many agendas.

Since Rump and Pence have been very clear, well Pence was clear, Rump was his usually rumbling, stumbling, moronic self on the subject of taking away a woman's right to choose, I assume that you can't vote for their ticket?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

A woman has EVERY RIGHT to choose to keep her legs together. Abortion should not be birth control. Nor should it be used to correct foolish mistakes made in the heat of the moment. Sorry if you feel otherwise.

Since Rump and Pence have been very clear, well Pence was clear, Rump was his usually rumbling, stumbling, moronic self on the subject of taking away a woman's right to choose, I assume that you can't vote for their ticket?

[yuna628 9,676]

A woman has EVERY RIGHT to choose to keep her legs together. Abortion should not be birth control. Nor should it be used to correct foolish mistakes made in the heat of the moment. Sorry if you feel otherwise.

A woman has every right not to be raped, assaulted, pressured, or controlled.

A child has every right not to be raped, assaulted, pressured, or controlled.

A woman has the right to have access to good birth control options for their health, wellbeing, and sex lives.

A man has every right to choose to keep his pants zipped up and be decent human beings.

A man has every right to use protection and not complain it butthurts his feelings using it.

We all have a right to have access to birth control, and enough knowledge as possible to make informed and responsible decisions in our personal lives.

Families have the right to decide to make medical decisions that are difficult and personal, when it involves the potential health of their unborn baby or health of the mother involved.

Parents have the right to have realistic discussions with their children about sex, instead of never saying a word, being too grossed out to help, making them feel inferior or defective, helping them make better decisions about themselves, or making their children feel so ashamed that they feel forced to have abortions to win the love and approval of them.

Likewise the church has a right to do the same.

A woman has every right to have a D&C, after they suffer the agony of having ''God'' do the aborting of their babies.

We all have the right to have politicians out of our bedrooms.

Edited November 3, 2016 by yuna628

[smilesammich 10,727]

PLUS A BILLION YUNA628

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

A woman has every right not to be raped, assaulted, pressured, or controlled.

A child has every right not to be raped, assaulted, pressured, or controlled.

A woman has the right to have access to good birth control options for their health, wellbeing, and sex lives.

A man has every right to choose to keep his pants zipped up and be decent human beings.

A man has every right to use protection and not complain it butthurts his feelings using it.

We all have a right to have access to birth control, and enough knowledge as possible to make informed and responsible decisions in our personal lives.

Families have the right to decide to make medical decisions that are difficult and personal, when it involves the potential health of their unborn baby or health of the mother involved.

Parents have the right to have realistic discussions with their children about sex, instead of never saying a word, being too grossed out to help, making them feel inferior or defective, helping them make better decisions about themselves, or making their children feel so ashamed that they feel forced to have abortions to win the love and approval of them.

Likewise the church has a right to do the same.

A woman has every right to have a D&C, after they suffer the agony of having ''God'' do the aborting of their babies.

We all have the right to have politicians out of our bedrooms.

The only right you really have is to breath the air about a for around your body until someone stronger decides you don't.

[millefleur 5,046]

A woman has EVERY RIGHT to choose to keep her legs together. Abortion should not be birth control. Nor should it be used to correct foolish mistakes made in the heat of the moment. Sorry if you feel otherwise.

Don't assume all supporters of legal abortion think it's just another form of birth control. I am personally anti-abortion and would never have an abortion (unless it were the result of a rape/would be life threatening). Using abortion as a form of backup birth control is a disgusting idea to me personally, but I still support legalized abortion because the minute you ban something, then back alley black markets are going to pop up. Banning abortion will not suddenly make it less prevalent, only more dangerous and dubious.

If you really want abortion to go down, it's an education/societal values factor, not a matter or just banning or not banning it. Prohibition almost never works at stopping/culling any bad behavior. What works is keeping things legal but enacting other factors to discourage the behavior, like we've seen with smoking. Fewer people smoke now than ever due to health awareness programs in schools, public campaigns and restrictions on ads, in addition to local taxes and in general, the greater society's disdain and lack of tolerance for smokers....it's an example of what to do with just about any other "bad behavior" that we as citizens want to discourage.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Don't assume all supporters of legal abortion think it's just another form of birth control. I am personally anti-abortion and would never have an abortion (unless it were the result of a rape/would be life threatening). Using abortion as a form of backup birth control is a disgusting idea to me personally, but I still support legalized abortion because the minute you ban something, then back alley black markets are going to pop up. Banning abortion will not suddenly make it less prevalent, only more dangerous and dubious.

If you really want abortion to go down, it's an education/societal values factor, not a matter or just banning or not banning it. Prohibition almost never works at stopping/culling any bad behavior. What works is keeping things legal but enacting other factors to discourage the behavior, like we've seen with smoking. Fewer people smoke now than ever due to health awareness programs in schools, public campaigns and restrictions on ads, in addition to local taxes and in general, the greater society's disdain and lack of tolerance for smokers....it's an example of what to do with just about any other "bad behavior" that we as citizens want to discourage.

i wouldn't waste my time, it's pretty obvious when a person hates women or generally leans into the 'women are evil' mindset. quipping women should 'close their legs' not only stinks of misogyny, it also shows an immense ignorance of the reality of female biology.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

A woman has EVERY RIGHT to choose to keep her legs together. Abortion should not be birth control. Nor should it be used to correct foolish mistakes made in the heat of the moment. Sorry if you feel otherwise.

Channeling the ghost of Duncan here? True zealots don't even accept abortion in the case of Rape, something Herr Rump might just know a thing or two about. I accept Row v Wade and fail to see any value in pontification in regards to how any woman gets pregnant nor do I choose to pass judgment should she choose to abort.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Channeling the ghost of Duncan here? True zealots don't even accept abortion in the case of Rape, something Herr Rump might just know a thing or two about. I accept Row v Wade and fail to see any value in pontification in regards to how any woman gets pregnant nor do I choose to pass judgment should she choose to abort.

I would love to hear a candidate say .. it's settled law and the president can't really change that so I don't feel the need to waste energy on it, just appeal to my base

[Teddy B 17,252]

I would love to hear a candidate say .. it's settled law and the president can't really change that so I don't feel the need to waste energy on it, just appeal to my base

I wish the majority of voters were educated to the point where they knew that this goes for 99% of all promises that are made by presidential candidates. Too many people have no idea how our gov't works and yet they are voting based on promises made by candidates that will never be delivered. It amazes me how many people talk about what a president will do once he/she gets into office as if they will be a dictator. I shake my head at folks that walk around parroting the false promises made by candidates, acting like there's no process that must be followed for these changes to be made, just a snap of the finger and poof, it's done.

Edited November 3, 2016 by Teddy B

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I agree 100%. Never said anything about rape, did I? I said birth control. As in, "Oops, I did it again..."

Killing an infant because two adults wanted to party is not a valid reason for abortion. There are certainly times when it is appropriate. But as a month-after solution, I disagree.

A woman has every right not to be raped, assaulted, pressured, or controlled.

A child has every right not to be raped, assaulted, pressured, or controlled.

A woman has the right to have access to good birth control options for their health, wellbeing, and sex lives.

A man has every right to choose to keep his pants zipped up and be decent human beings.

A man has every right to use protection and not complain it butthurts his feelings using it.

We all have a right to have access to birth control, and enough knowledge as possible to make informed and responsible decisions in our personal lives.

Families have the right to decide to make medical decisions that are difficult and personal, when it involves the potential health of their unborn baby or health of the mother involved.

Parents have the right to have realistic discussions with their children about sex, instead of never saying a word, being too grossed out to help, making them feel inferior or defective, helping them make better decisions about themselves, or making their children feel so ashamed that they feel forced to have abortions to win the love and approval of them.

Likewise the church has a right to do the same.

A woman has every right to have a D&C, after they suffer the agony of having ''God'' do the aborting of their babies.

We all have the right to have politicians out of our bedrooms.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I agree 100%. Never said anything about rape, did I? I said birth control. As in, "Oops, I did it again..."

Killing an infant because two adults wanted to party is not a valid reason for abortion. There are certainly times when it is appropriate. But as a month-after solution, I disagree.

why do you hate women.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

If you're implying I hate women, that is too funny. I say they should be responsible and not have promiscuous sex (as opposed to aborting a child after said sex), and you try to turn that into hatred for women. Quite a far reach, even for the likes of you.

i wouldn't waste my time, it's pretty obvious when a person hates women or generally leans into the 'women are evil' mindset. quipping women should 'close their legs' not only stinks of misogyny, it also shows an immense ignorance of the reality of female biology.

Edited November 3, 2016 by LFEHFN

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I had no idea until today that I did (hate women). VJ, the most eye-opening resource in the world since Radial Keratotomy...

why do you hate women.

[smilesammich 10,727]

If you're implying I hate women, that is too funny. I say they should be responsible and not have promiscuous sex (as opposed to aborting a child after said sex), and you try to turn that into hatred for women. Quite a far reach, even for the likes of you.

and i say that if you haven't learned yet to mind your own business, you'll just further yourself down the path of a grumpy busy body. if you don't want to use abortion as birth control, don't. and be mindful to make sure you only have sex with women who share the same opinion. mind yourself. we teach that to wee toddlers as it is one of the basics.

the likes of me will always get angry when a man opens his mouth to try and tell a woman to shut her legs. shut yours. they're the only legs you've any say over.