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My wife and I are in the beginning stages of planning to move to Japan. I am a US born citizen, and my job will have me placed in Japan from April 2017 to January 2018. I can get documentation when the plans are firmed up from my place of employment for the firm dates of the stay, and we will maintain everything in the US (mortgage, cars, active bank accounts). The only item that worries me is that her conditional green card expires September of 2017. I keep getting conflicting reports that you can apply for ROC overseas, but it will be on hold until we return (which I'm OK with), and that you can't apply for ROC overseas. Which is correct? Can we submit the paper work while in Japan and have her application placed on hold? What about return? Should she apply for an i-131 to make re-entry easier? What would be the best way to handle this?

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Hey, so I called up the USCIS and asked them about my situation, but the person didn't seem knowledgeable. At first she said I couldn't submit the i751 while in Japan, then she found documentation saying that there is no requirement to be in the US to submit the i751, but that we both would have to come back for her biometrics (which makes no sense to me and doesn't sound correct, it should just be my wife). Her returning to the US to do the biometrics isn't a big issue, but I wonder about how she can return to Japan if her GC is expired? Will she be issued an extension while her case is pending? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

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If you apply for ROC with an overseas address they will put it on hold, so if as you say you are planning on maintaining your life and ties to the US, then file just as if you are in the US, with your US address. You are after all overseas for a temporary fixed period, with the intention to return.

A LPR accompanying a US citizen spouse overseas for business reasons of a temporary nature (ie, you fully intend to return, and you regard the US as your home and maintain significant ties) is perfectly ok and - contrary to some peoples scaremongering on here - does not somehow invalidate LPR status, or mean you have to abandon it. Your wife must have a continued uninterrupted intention to return during her time overseas for the temporary reason.

Your wife also needs to be aware of the time spent by her in one go outside of the country - anything under six months is fine, six - 12 months *should* cause no issues, and over twelve is a no-no. Absolute worst case scenario and you encounter an awkward officer at the point of re-entry into the US who insists she has abandoned her residency (unlikely), then she has the right of admittance for a hearing by an immigration judge.

Also remember that for future naturalization purposes, spending more than six months continuously out of the US will reset her naturalization clock.

A few weeks or less after you file, a receipt will come in the mail. This is the one year extension letter, and acts in conjunction with the expired card as proof of LPR status. I suggest you have a mail forwarding service or have someone that can send it to you, as it will be needed to board a flight back to the US and to enter the country. It is watermarked, so a scan will not suffice!

The biometrics appointment will come by mail shortly after the receipt, and the way you reschedule this if required is by mail, or possibly by attempting a walk in, but for you isn't really practical if you are in Japan!

You do not need to go to biometrics - only your wife does, and she will need to return to the US for it. They will only do overseas biometrics for ROC for spouses of US citizens overseas on official business (ie, military or consular staff).

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

 
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