AOS i864 or i864a??

[enxhi96 34]

Hi! I'm getting my AOS package ready to send out, however I do not make enough money on my own for the i864 poverty line. So my parents are my joint sponsors, BUT I'm confused whether they fill out i864 or i864a. Can someone please help me? I'm filing for my new husband through k-1 visa. Thanks !!

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

One parent will fill out their own separate I-864 as the joint sponsor, and the other parent will fill out an I-864A as their household member and have their incomes combined on the joint sponsor's I-864 to meet the requirement.

[enxhi96 34]

I think I understand- my mother would file i864 and my father would file i864a since they file taxes jointly. Just want to clarify that this is correct before I send anything out. Thanks!

One parent will fill out their own separate I-864 as the joint sponsor, and the other parent will fill out an I-864A as their household member and have their incomes combined on the joint sponsor's I-864 to meet the requirement.

Thank you!! That's what I thought but wanted to make sure

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

Yes, that is correct.

[Sonja83 0]

I thought the form I864a can be used for US citizen, who has the same principal address as a sponsor and is related to sponsor as a spouse, adult child, parent or sibling.

For example : the petitioner is the main sponsor, no matter how much money he/she makes. If the petitioner, the main sponsor, does not make enugh money and need to combine the income with parents and lives with them at the same address,Then i would say if one parent makes enough money to sponsor the applicants,then this parent can fill in only I864a. Or if there would be needed both parents income living with the petitioner, both parents would be filling in I864a. But if the parents do not live with the petitioner, than one parent would fill in I864 and the other one I864a.

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

OP never made mention of whether or not they live with the parents, and it makes no difference where they live anyway, as far as being a joint sponsor is concerned. There is no requirement to use an I-864A because you reside together.

If they reside together then they could have the parents fill I-864A forms to combine with the USC petitioner/sponsor, but it is an easier way to keep the household count straight and deal with the parents joint taxes to just have them use the I-864 and I-864A together for joint sponsorship.

[Sonja83 0]

Ok make sense. I just thought I864a is an easier form. We used I-864a, and we were using just one parent.

[THEMSRILEY 4]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that if, If your sponsor is a household member they are suppose to complete I84A, if not they both complete I864 and one check the box for 1st joint sponsor and the other for 2nd joint sponsor

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that if, If your sponsor is a household member they are suppose to complete I84A, if not they both complete I864 and one check the box for 1st joint sponsor and the other for 2nd joint sponsor

You are wrong. See above. Someone that resides with you is not required to use the I-864A as a qualified household member. They can still be a joint sponsor and file an I-864. Also, someone using the I-864A does not check any box stating they are a second joint sponsor. A household member filling out an I-864A is not a joint sponsor. And if you only have one immigrant being sponsored, then you can only have one joint sponsor.

[THEMSRILEY 4]

You are wrong. See above. Someone that resides with you is not required to use the I-864A as a qualified household member. They can still be a joint sponsor and file an I-864. Also, someone using the I-864A does not check any box stating they are a second joint sponsor. A household member filling out an I-864A is not a joint sponsor. And if you only have one immigrant being sponsored, then you can only have one joint sponsor.

You misunderstood me. I know that if you are using I864A you do not check any boxes. The boxes are checked on the I864 form. Also, your can have more than one joint sponsor for one immigrant, that is why there are several boxes to check, look at the form.

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

You misunderstood me. I know that if you are using I864A you do not check any boxes. The boxes are checked on the I864 form. Also, your can have more than one joint sponsor for one immigrant, that is why there are several boxes to check, look at the form.

I know what the form looks like, and how it works.

No, you can't have more than one joint sponsor for only a single immigrant. Read the instructions.

You can have up to two joint sponsors total. You can use a second joint sponsor to split the sponsorship requirements when there is more than one immigrant.

For example, if just your spouse is immigrating, then you can have only one joint sponsor to sponsor the immigrant. You cannot have two separate joint sponsors split the sponsorship for one person.

If you are having a spouse and another family member immigrating at the same time, then you can have one joint sponsor provide sponsorship for the spouse, and then a second joint sponsor provide their own separate I-864 to sponsor the family member. This is so that when you have several immigrants at once, you can spread out the sponsorship, if you cannot find one person that earns enough to meet the requirement for their own household size plus all the immigrants.

[THEMSRILEY 4]

I know what the form looks like, and how it works.

No, you can't have more than one joint sponsor for only a single immigrant. Read the instructions.

You can have up to two joint sponsors total. You can use a second joint sponsor to split the sponsorship requirements when there is more than one immigrant.

For example, if just your spouse is immigrating, then you can have only one joint sponsor to sponsor the immigrant. You cannot have two separate joint sponsors split the sponsorship for one person.

If you are having a spouse and another family member immigrating at the same time, then you can have one joint sponsor provide sponsorship for the spouse, and then a second joint sponsor provide their own separate I-864 to sponsor the family member. This is so that when you have several immigrants at once, you can spread out the sponsorship, if you cannot find one person that earns enough to meet the requirement for their own household size plus all th

Well I am not going to go back and forth with you, I hope they got their answer. Unless the rules have change since I know of my good friend doing it she had two different sponsors for her husband, but you say you are correct, so ok.

[enxhi96 34]

Thank you all for the help. no need to argue please. I used my mom as the joint sponsor and added my dad as her household member since they file taxes jointly and combine their income. Hopefully no rfes. Just want to get this tedious process over with! ?

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

Well I am not going to go back and forth with you, I hope they got their answer. Unless the rules have change since I know of my good friend doing it she had two different sponsors for her husband, but you say you are correct, so ok.

I am correct. The instructions for joint sponsors have not changed. Your friend could not have more than one joint sponsor for a single immigrant. They could have used more than one household member filling out I-864A forms, but not more than one joint sponsor filling out separate I-864 forms.

If a joint sponsor filled out an I-864 for her husband, then a second joint sponsor could not submit another I-864 for that same immigrant. A joint sponsor must meet the income requirements and sponsor the immigrant all on their own.

Page 12 of the I-864 instructions>

What Is a Joint Sponsor?

If the person who is seeking the immigration of one or more of his or her relatives cannot meet the income requirements, a joint sponsor who can meet the requirements may submit Form I-864 to sponsor all or some of the family members.

A joint sponsor can be any U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident, or U.S. national who is at least 18 years of age, domiciled in the United States, or its territories or possessions, and willing to be held jointly liable with the petitioner for the support of the intending immigrant. A joint sponsor does not have to be related to the petitioning sponsor or the intending immigrant.

If the first joint sponsor completes Form I-864 for some rather than all the family members, a second qualifying joint sponsor will be required to sponsor the remaining family members. There may be no more than two joint sponsors. A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons he or she is sponsoring without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor. Any dependents applying for an immigrant visa or adjustment of status more than six months after immigration of the intending immigrants must be sponsored by the petitioner but may be sponsored by an original joint sponsor or a different joint sponsor.