I-129F November 2016 Filers

[JimJesDuma 472]

25 minutes ago, JimJesDuma said:

A pre-nuptial can be had even if you have no assets because we don't know what the future will hold. You could win the lottery on your 3rd wedding anniversary. $$$ Or start a business together that grows into a 6 figure company.

 

I have zero desire or plan to have a pre-nuptial but that is a personal decision that people need to make.

Great question and something for people to think about for sure.

 

Jim

Ok don't know if prenup would be required if you have no assets to start.  I guess if you won lottery after married or earn money together after then that would not be part of pre-nup.

Oh I don't want to think about divorce I don't even have my NOA 2 yet...lol

 

http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/how-to-determine-if-a-prenuptial-agreement-is-right-for-you.html

 

Jim

[Art786 275]

3 minutes ago, vogann said:

No surprises from USCIS today for Nov.14th Noa1 filers... unexpected, right? DUH.

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Nov 14th Noa1 status

 

seams like thay aproved one and throw 10 in gardbige without even looking on it

[JimJesDuma 472]

6 minutes ago, vogann said:

No surprises from USCIS today for Nov.14th Noa1 filers... unexpected, right? DUH.

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Yup another goose egg for tonight..

Jim

[vogann 221]

2 minutes ago, Art786 said:

seams like thay aproved one and throw 10 in gardbige without even looking on it

those are rejected b/c petition was improperly filed.. not signed i129-f forms 

[Maagiclady 29]

3 hours ago, JimJesDuma said:

 

 

 

I love the date. 11-3-97      at least that's not the date they are on hahahaha

[JimJesDuma 472]

4 minutes ago, Maagiclady said:

I love the date. 11-3-97      at least that's not the date they are on hahahaha

Hahahaha...hope not seems like it though.

Day 82 uggg

 

Jim

[KimchiLumpia 315]

2 hours ago, Art786 said:

Anyway, this is not going anywhere soon. , So question to this community is, how many of you have already or planning to get prenuptial agreement? Of course, if you have any assets  

Could your I-134 affidavit of support form be used against a pre-nup?  I can vision a scenario where a very good divorce lawyer would say that a petitioner stated in their i-134 affidavit of support that they will support the beneficiary, thus, making the pre-nup void. 

 

Everyone has their own opinion, but, I can't fault anyone for wanting to get a pre-nup.  Divorce is UGLY!

 

Well wishes to us all! 

Edited January 24, 2017 by KimchiLumpia

[geowrian 22,337]

23 minutes ago, KimchiLumpia said:

Could your I-134 affidavit of support form be used against a pre-nup?  I can vision a scenario where a very good divorce lawyer would say that a petitioner stated in their i-134 affidavit of support that they will support the beneficiary, thus, making the pre-nup void.

The I-134 isn't legally binding, so I don't think that would come into play. I think you meant the I-864? Even that only comes into play with regard to supporting the beneficiary instead of becoming a public charge. So I guess if the pre-nup tried to offer less than that, the I-864 (and any I-864a apps with it) would still come into play. That said, any pre-nup that tried to offer less than that would likely not hold any water in the first place.

 

Foreign Affairs Manual, 9 FAM 302.8:

https://fam.state.gov/fam/09fam/09fam030208.html

"Because INA 212(a)(4)(C) and INA 213A require the use of Form I-864 for so many classes of immigrants, the use of Form I-134, has been reduced considerably.  Nevertheless, there still are circumstances when Form I-134 will be beneficial.  This affidavit, submitted by the applicant at your request, is not legally binding on the sponsor and should not be accorded the same weight as Form I-864.  Form I-134 should be given consideration as one form of evidence, however, in conjunction with the other forms of evidence mentioned below."

Edited January 24, 2017 by geowrian

[KimchiLumpia 315]

29 minutes ago, geowrian said:

The I-134 isn't legally binding, so I don't think that would come into play. I think you meant the I-864? Even that only comes into play with regard to supporting the beneficiary instead of becoming a public charge. So I guess if the pre-nup tried to offer less than that, the I-864 (and any I-864a apps with it) would still come into play. That said, any pre-nup that tried to offer less than that would likely not hold any water in the first place.

 

Foreign Affairs Manual, 9 FAM 302.8:

https://fam.state.gov/fam/09fam/09fam030208.html

"Because INA 212(a)(4)(C) and INA 213A require the use of Form I-864 for so many classes of immigrants, the use of Form I-134, has been reduced considerably.  Nevertheless, there still are circumstances when Form I-134 will be beneficial.  This affidavit, submitted by the applicant at your request, is not legally binding on the sponsor and should not be accorded the same weight as Form I-864.  Form I-134 should be given consideration as one form of evidence, however, in conjunction with the other forms of evidence mentioned below."

Interesting information.  Prenups are a hot button topic amongst couples that are engaged.  I generally hear two schools of thought:

 

"If you want a prenup, you are already planning on failing - so why bother getting married?"

vs.

"Getting a prenup is like buying car insurance.  I don't plan on using it, but happier to have it if needed"

 

I can see one also wanting to protect assets for children that are already born or if one spouse has a sizable estate vs. the other.  I have a good friend that's a family law attorney.  His biggest recommendation to couples before getting married is to make sure both you and your finance's finances are under control.  He said money issues and not having a clear expectation on finances is the main underlaying factor in the divorces that he sees in his practice.  

Work hard, save, but spend wisely!

 

 

 

 

Edited January 24, 2017 by KimchiLumpia

[ShanghaiSurfer 135]

28 minutes ago, KimchiLumpia said:

Interesting information.  Prenups are a hot button topic amongst couples that are engaged.  I generally hear two schools of thought:

 

"If you want a prenup, you are already planning on failing - so why bother getting married?"

vs.

"Getting a prenup is like buying car insurance.  I don't plan on using it, but happier to have it if needed"

 

I can see one also wanting to protect assets for children that are already born or if one spouse has a sizable estate vs. the other.  I have a good friend that's a family law attorney.  His biggest recommendation to couples before getting married is to make sure both you and your finance's finances are under control.  He said money issues and not having a clear expectation on finances is the main underlaying factor in the divorces that he sees in his practice.  

Work hard, save, but spend wisely!

 

 

 

 

In terms of assets my understanding is what is brought into the marriage remains yours as separate assets - nonmarital property. So as far as kids is concerned I believe they are already protected even in divorce as this is your "nonmarital property". Where it gets sticky is when you use the property to buy marital property. So a prenup is more just to make sure there is no misunderstanding as you have said.

 

Here is a good site on Managing Marital Property - Do's and Don'ts: http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/managing-marital-property-do-s-and-don-ts.html

[CMJuilland 485]

I have held off with posting my searches on the app up until now, but I figured since I have an Excel sheet where I track it anyway, why not share the day-to-day results. Now, I haven't gone the extra mile of tracking exactly where one date starts and another date stops; using trial and error though, I started tracking K1-petitions starting at WAC1790044500 and ending at WAC1790052899 (received between Oct 28 and Nov 2). 

Out of all these numbers, there are 836 K1-petitions, out of which 53 were rejected after about 2 days due to reasons such as failing to sign or sending an incorrect fee. As of Monday (Jan 23) night, there are 273 approvals, 131 RFEs, and 379 unworked cases (category is called other, and as far as I know cases that are withdrawn and a few other things go into the same category). 

While 379 may sound like a horrendous figure for only 3 days, compared to 2 weeks ago (9 business days; Jan 9), they really did make a move; on Jan 9, there were 544 unworked cases. While the amount of petitions worked on each day may seem small, at least they're touching them again - as Jim and others stated already, they didn't really do anything for almost a month a couple of weeks ago. 

 

Anyway, I hope you guys have a great day - and yet again: to more approvals this week!! 

[Ray&Ash 271]

1 hour ago, CMJuilland said:

I have held off with posting my searches on the app up until now, but I figured since I have an Excel sheet where I track it anyway, why not share the day-to-day results. Now, I haven't gone the extra mile of tracking exactly where one date starts and another date stops; using trial and error though, I started tracking K1-petitions starting at WAC1790044500 and ending at WAC1790052899 (received between Oct 28 and Nov 2). 

Out of all these numbers, there are 836 K1-petitions, out of which 53 were rejected after about 2 days due to reasons such as failing to sign or sending an incorrect fee. As of Monday (Jan 23) night, there are 273 approvals, 131 RFEs, and 379 unworked cases (category is called other, and as far as I know cases that are withdrawn and a few other things go into the same category). 

While 379 may sound like a horrendous figure for only 3 days, compared to 2 weeks ago (9 business days; Jan 9), they really did make a move; on Jan 9, there were 544 unworked cases. While the amount of petitions worked on each day may seem small, at least they're touching them again - as Jim and others stated already, they didn't really do anything for almost a month a couple of weeks ago. 

 

Anyway, I hope you guys have a great day - and yet again: to more approvals this week!! 

Great to see you tracking! i love it people can draw logical conclusions  How do you track these though? only using VJ data? 

any USCIS app you're suing? 

[CMJuilland 485]

54 minutes ago, Ray&Ash said:

Great to see you tracking! i love it people can draw logical conclusions  How do you track these though? only using VJ data? 

any USCIS app you're suing? 

I'm using the iPhone case tracker app, and my figures come from there. VJ only is just a small part and, IMHO, not all that representative anyway... I do this each day, and I'll try to remember to post it here every day as well. 

[JSWH 262]

I keep tracking the cases with NOA1 date 10/18 (which is my date as well). Yesterday 2 more cases got approved. So, USCIS does the job.

[MrKDBrown 44]

Remember that Q&A where he said the cases are in boxes. Are all the cases put in boxes in order or do they sort the I129-Fs into boxes of solely I129-F's? My NOA1 is Nov 22 and in the WAC1790075XXX range. Ugh.