Parents and brother refused B1/B2 visa :(

[Boiler 45,947]

Not if you fall beneath the income threshold. You can still file (like I did when I was a student because I made sure I was satisfying all LPR requirements)

From IRS site (did not include table showing incomes):

Don't file a federal income tax return if you don't meet the filing requirements and aren't due a refund. If you need assistance to determine if you need to file a federal income tax return for 2015, go to IRS.gov and use the Interactive Tax Assistant (ITA). You can find the ITA by going to IRS.gov and entering “interactive tax assistant” in the search box. Open the ITA and click on Do I Need to File a Tax Return under Topics by Category.

General Requirements

If you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, you must file a return if your gross income for the year was at least the amount shown on the appropriate line in Table 1-1 below.

My father has a very well paying job even by American standards and owns a lot of property

[Boiler 45,947]

Care to expand? I am not being sarcastic and I respect opinions on this. Dealing with family means emotions cloud judgement.

He obtained an immigrant visa and abused it, why not the same for a B?

[Eric-Pris 1,607]

Not if you fall beneath the income threshold. You can still file (like I did when I was a student because I made sure I was satisfying all LPR requirements)

My father has a very well paying job even by American standards and owns a lot of property.

What is your definition of a well paying job? I ask because I've never me a single person with a well paying job who fell beneath the minimum income to file.

EDIT: Boiler beat me to the question...

Edited October 27, 2016 by Eric-Pris

[tinnytintin 2]

My father has a very well paying job even by American standards and owns a lot of property

Which is now, 10 years later. Don't tell me people's circumstances don't change in 10 years. My household income is x15 what it was 10 years ago.....

He obtained an immigrant visa and abused it, why not the same for a B?

Okay, this is what I was trying to figure our and makes sense. Thank you.

What is your definition of a well paying job? I ask because I've never me a single person with a well paying job who fell beneath the minimum income to file.

EDIT: Boiler beat me to the question...

He wouldn't be below the threshold now, which is 10 years after the fact.

[Boiler 45,947]

My family had the I 407 forms and everything filled out.

Seems they maintained or sought to maintain their status.

[tinnytintin 2]

Seems they maintained or sought to maintain their status.

So the mistake was having the forms so that it seemed like the family still thought they were PRs. Got it

[cdneh 3,112]

He stopped coming to the US in 2006 when he decided that he no longer wanted to move here. His green card expired in 2010. So he did not keep 'visiting' on his green card and then just decide to transfer to a B2. He should have surrendered his green card right then, but hindsight is 20:20

Should he have filed taxes in those six years- Yes. But there are valid and legal reasons why he didn't.

Maybe so, but between 2000, when he got the green card, and 2006 when he stopped coming, so for 6 years, he did.

[Unlockable 7,315]

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He obtained an immigrant visa and abused it, why not the same for a B?

This is the best response to their situation. It explain everything the CO was probably thinking when they interviewed. Your family was given a legal path to migrate to the US but not only chose not to pursue it but didn't do the proper steps to cancel it.

Your parents way of thinking is coming off a little arrogant. They don't want to come to a county that don't want them? Really? Our country already showed them they were wanted by giving them a GC.

And although you may have you own personal reasons for they to visit it doesn't sound like they have an interest. Based on your families history there is a lot of work and lot to overcome to successfully get them a tourist visa.

It may be best to explain to them WHY they were denied so they can have a better understanding of it rather than having a negative attitude on the US.

[tinnytintin 2]

This is the best response to their situation. It explain everything the CO was probably thinking when they interviewed. Your family was given a legal path to migrate to the US but not only chose not to pursue it but didn't do the proper steps to cancel it.

Your parents way of thinking is coming off a little arrogant. They don't want to come to a county that don't want them? Really? Our country already showed them they were wanted by giving them a GC.

And although you may have you own personal reasons for they to visit it doesn't sound like they have an interest. Based on your families history there is a lot of work and lot to overcome to successfully get them a tourist visa.

It may be best to explain to them WHY they were denied so they can have a better understanding of it rather than having a negative attitude on the US.

I try not to dictate the attitudes held by other adults. I guess I'll always be the one visiting.

Edited October 27, 2016 by tinnytintin

[Cathi 5,783]

I find it quite irritating that you say the US doesn't want them because they were denied a B2, yet the US issued them green cards and they chose to abuse that privilege. Seems to me that your frustration is misplaced, and just plain wrong.

[KierenHby 899]

Your parents way of thinking is coming off a little arrogant. They don't want to come to a county that don't want them? Really? Our country already showed them they were wanted by giving them a GC.

I find it quite irritating that you say the US doesn't want them because they were denied a B2, yet the US issued them green cards and they chose to abuse that privilege. Seems to me that your frustration is misplaced, and just plain wrong.

Just about sums it up

[tinnytintin 2]

Being able to get a green card and consequently citizenship to the United States is a privelege. I think all members of VJ will agree. But it is not the right step for everyone. It wasn't for my parents, and I completely agree that they made the correct decision to abandon their permanent residence here. Making a new life in the US is exceedingly difficult when you are middle-aged, have no US qualifications, and have two children in tow. If I were to go back and change anything, it would be that they file I 407 the moment they knew that the US was not where they wanted to live.

@mimolicious : I don't recall saying that any one was frustrated. I wanted to gain a better understanding of the issues that led to their refusal based on what the CO said at the interview. I am sad that my parents will probably never visit me in the country which I call home, where I am hopefully going to have children and buy a house. These are all things that children want to share with their parents.

On their side, they tried for a visa, were refused, and do not want to spend more effort in the matter. Their refusal was based off of "continued immigrant intent" which will not be something easily overcome, especially with a US citizen daughter.

NuestraUnion, on 27 Oct 2016 - 1:00 PM, said:

Your parents way of thinking is coming off a little arrogant. They don't want to come to a county that don't want them? Really? Our country already showed them they were wanted by giving them a GC.

mimolicious, on 27 Oct 2016 - 4:53 PM, said:

I find it quite irritating that you say the US doesn't want them because they were denied a B2, yet the US issued them green cards and they chose to abuse that privilege. Seems to me that your frustration is misplaced, and just plain wrong.

Just about sums it up

NuestraUnion, on 27 Oct 2016 - 1:00 PM, said:

Your parents way of thinking is coming off a little arrogant. They don't want to come to a county that don't want them? Really? Our country already showed them they were wanted by giving them a GC.

mimolicious, on 27 Oct 2016 - 4:53 PM, said:

I find it quite irritating that you say the US doesn't want them because they were denied a B2, yet the US issued them green cards and they chose to abuse that privilege. Seems to me that your frustration is misplaced, and just plain wrong.

Just about sums it up