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Hello All,

We just received a request for additional evidence on our I-751. We were a bit surprised, and

upset.

I am concerned that some documentation they request are things we would have to make

NOW. Will this disqualify it as relevant support? Specifics are below. If anyone can provide insight

or information it is greatly appreciated.

We submitted:

Evidence of Shared health benefits

2013-2014 Jointly filed tax returns

Joint savings account opened in 2015

Bills coming to both of us at current residence

2 Signed affidavits, one from a close friend wh attended our wedding, and one from my mother

Photos spanning several years, included overseas trips

The letter indicated we did not show a significant shared financial history. Which thinking on it,

we did not, both of us are working, and we had little need to share a checking account.

We not yet have any children.

Documents They Requested:

We can provide are below. I have some specific questions about them, highlighted in bold, and any help is greatly appreciated.

1) -Lease to our current apartment - Question: We have lived here for 3 years, but my wife's name was finally added only this year, Is that a problem?

2) Shared Checking Account - Question: We can make a joint account now, is it too late?

3) Will and Testament - Question: If I make out a will naming her as beneficiary now is it too late?

4) Phone Bills - Question: These come addressed to only one of us, but at this residence, and with both our phones on the same account. Is this relevent?

5) My wife's bank statements with our current mailing address (this is not a joint account, just hers)

6) Shared Savings account (updated statements)

7) Life insurance policy naming wife as beneficiary

8) Additional 2015 tax return

Other Evidence Not Specifically Requested:

9) Passports showing travel to Italy and Japan in the past year

10) Additional Photos of travel

11) Updated Affidavit

Would any of that other documentation help?

Thank you for any support you can offer

Posted

You can also do Living Wills that name each other; Power of Attorney, again naming each other. Do you have drivers' licenses showing the same address? Highlight your wife's number on the phone statements.

Try to include as many documents from the time you began your married life together as possible; what they want is a sort of evidence chain of actually having a life together.

"Wherever you go, you take yourself with you." --Neil Gaiman

Filed: Timeline
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You can also do Living Wills that name each other; Power of Attorney, again naming each other. Do you have drivers' licenses showing the same address? Highlight your wife's number on the phone statements.

Thank you very much for the quick response. I will look into a Living Will. Regarding driver's licenses, we are in NYC, so my wife did not ever get a license.

Try to include as many documents from the time you began your married life together as possible; what they want is a sort of evidence chain of actually having a life together.

My concern is I cannot think of any financial documents aside from joint tax returns from the beginning. We didn't really think about it, so aside from her own bank statements, most all of our utilities were all addressed to me. Are there any other documents aside from bills commonly used to show residence?

Posted

What you need to do is send what you have. I would make wills and medical power of attorney documents anyway since those are important to have. You could send them off to USCIS, but as you said, these were only just created.

For other documentation they've requested that you do not have, you should create a letter explaining why you do not have them. You can then either expect an approval or an interview letter. They shouldn't deny your petition without an interview, and the vast majority of these interviews go without a problem.

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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Posted

They like to see co mingled financial evidence such as monthly bank statements from joint accounts from inception of marriage.

If you don't have it then write a note and explain why you do not have it.

Joint credit cards, gym cards, wills, power of attorneys, 401K, car loan, car titles, life insurance etc.....whatever you can generate now is fine but

of course they want to see things from the inception of your marriage. If you don't have it then you don't have it, can't show what you

don't have so mingle what you can now. What you bolded is not a problem.

Trips and photos also help. Yes, the phone bills with both names shows a mingled life, it's not only about showing the same address.

Think mingled !

Look over the VJ ROC guide and see what you may not be thinking of from the list.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline
Posted

Thread is moved from the AOS/Family-Based main forum to the Removing Conditions forum.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Timeline
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Thank you all for the kind replies. I feel like we have a clearer plan going forward.

Will move forward with making everything we can, and work on a letter for the things we lack history on.

Does anyone know if this type of letter is best to be highly detailed or just to the point? Not sure if the

reviewers want more info, or brevity.

For other documentation they've requested that you do not have, you should create a letter explaining why you do not have them. You can then either expect an approval or an interview letter. They shouldn't deny your petition without an interview, and the vast majority of these interviews go without a problem.

Thank you, am relieved to here that in the worst case, we would like just have to go through the interview process.

Look over the VJ ROC guide and see what you may not be thinking of from the list.

Thanks, will check that again, and thanks for pointing out gym membership, we do share one and I had not thought of that.
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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I always include a letter with my package of documents to serve as a table of contents as well as to clarify things that may be confusing to the officer.

I try to be brief and to the point. Just explain as clearly and concisely as possible. The less time they have to spend figuring out what you mean, the better.

CR1 / CR2 Visa:

(Day 1) 12/16/11: I-130 Application sent

(Day 283) 09/24/12: Interview at US Consulate – Approved!

(Day 287) 09/28/12: Visa Received & Immediately entered US using Visa

(Day 290) 10/01/12: Social Security Card sent automatically

Removal of Conditions CR1 / CR2
(Day 1) 07/28/14: Application sent.
(Day 135) 12/10/14: ROC Approved!
(Day 143) 12/18/14: 10 year GC received (IR1 / IR2)

Naturalization:
(Day 1) 06/30/15: Application sent.
(Day 210) 01/26/16: Interview and Oath Ceremony. DONE!

***Son and I became US Citizens 01/26/16***

(Day 1) 01/27/16: Applied for my U.S. Passport
(Day 14) 02/10/16: Passport Book & Cert of Naturalization received

(Day 1) 03/16/16: Applied for U.S. Passport for son

(Day 22) 04/07/16: Passport book and original docs received...(Card rec'd 04/16/16)

N-600 for child age 9
(Day 1) 01/27/16: Application sent

(Day 12) 02/08/16: NOA received

(Day 23) 02/19/16: Case received at local office

(Day 88) 04/23/16: In line for oath scheduling *Called USCIS to inquire about why there is an oath required for a child under 14. They sent a service request to the field office.

(Day 95) 04/30/16: Received letter from field office to say no oath necessary and that they would mail the certificate.
(Day 106) 05/11/16: Cert of Citizenship received by registered mail (they never sent tracking. case status was never updated either)

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Sweden
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How long after you filed your I-751 did you get the RFE notice? I sent in my package two weeks ago (NOA 10/14) and I'm pretty much expecting a RFE, since we don't have a lot of intermingled financial history. There's jointly filed taxes (I haven't been working), joint medical insurance, beneficiary of life insurance, joint car insurance, and a recently opened joint checking account.

I did enclose a note explaining the (somewhat odd) circumstances for my lack of evidence, so we'll see if they read that or not. The only further thing I can provide is a few more months of joint bank account statements, so we're half expecting to be called in for an interview.

Filed: Timeline
Posted

How long after you filed your I-751 did you get the RFE notice? I sent in my package two weeks ago (NOA 10/14) and I'm pretty much expecting a RFE, since we don't have a lot of intermingled financial history. There's jointly filed taxes (I haven't been working), joint medical insurance, beneficiary of life insurance, joint car insurance, and a recently opened joint checking account.

I did enclose a note explaining the (somewhat odd) circumstances for my lack of evidence, so we'll see if they read that or not. The only further thing I can provide is a few more months of joint bank account statements, so we're half expecting to be called in for an interview.

Just under 11 months. Our NOA date was 11/30/2015, we recieved the RFE on 10/24/16. On my letter, of the things I listed in first post, they viewed "Joint medical insurance"

as proof, and the rest as supporting evidence. Reading posts from other helpful users, I think our letter of explanation for lack of mingled finances may have been lacking, hopefully

yours works better.

Filed: Timeline
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I wouldn't dwell on writing about/apologizing for things you don't have. Instead focus on making a list on the things you do have and can show as evidence. Technically a cover letter isn't necessary but people include it to look professional and organized. I would keep the cover letter brief and only explain very briefly about any specific document they asked for and that you can't provide for whatever reason.

I always include a letter with my package of documents to serve as a table of contents as well as to clarify things that may be confusing to the officer.

I try to be brief and to the point. Just explain as clearly and concisely as possible. The less time they have to spend figuring out what you mean, the better.

I did include a table of contents and letter last time, but mostly just explained what was included rather than what was NOT, so I'll focus on that. Guess I'll try to keep it brief and

focused on specific documents.

Thank you again!

I wouldn't dwell on writing about/apologizing for things you don't have. Instead focus on making a list on the things you do have and can show as evidence. Technically a cover letter isn't necessary but people include it to look professional and organized. I would keep the cover letter brief and only explain very briefly about any specific document they asked for and that you can't provide for whatever reason.

I always include a letter with my package of documents to serve as a table of contents as well as to clarify things that may be confusing to the officer.

I try to be brief and to the point. Just explain as clearly and concisely as possible. The less time they have to spend figuring out what you mean, the better.

I did include a table of contents and letter last time, but mostly just explained what was included rather than what was NOT, so I'll focus on that. Guess I'll try to keep it brief and

focused on specific documents.

Thank you again!

I wouldn't dwell on writing about/apologizing for things you don't have. Instead focus on making a list on the things you do have and can show as evidence. Technically a cover letter isn't necessary but people include it to look professional and organized. I would keep the cover letter brief and only explain very briefly about any specific document they asked for and that you can't provide for whatever reason.

I always include a letter with my package of documents to serve as a table of contents as well as to clarify things that may be confusing to the officer.

I try to be brief and to the point. Just explain as clearly and concisely as possible. The less time they have to spend figuring out what you mean, the better.

I did include a table of contents and letter last time, but mostly just explained what was included rather than what was NOT, so I'll focus on that. Guess I'll try to keep it brief and

focused on specific documents.

Thank you again!

I wouldn't dwell on writing about/apologizing for things you don't have. Instead focus on making a list on the things you do have and can show as evidence. Technically a cover letter isn't necessary but people include it to look professional and organized. I would keep the cover letter brief and only explain very briefly about any specific document they asked for and that you can't provide for whatever reason.

I always include a letter with my package of documents to serve as a table of contents as well as to clarify things that may be confusing to the officer.

I try to be brief and to the point. Just explain as clearly and concisely as possible. The less time they have to spend figuring out what you mean, the better.

I did include a table of contents and letter last time, but mostly just explained what was included rather than what was NOT, so I'll focus on that. Guess I'll try to keep it brief and

focused on specific documents.

Thank you again!

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Sweden
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Just under 11 months. Our NOA date was 11/30/2015, we recieved the RFE on 10/24/16. On my letter, of the things I listed in first post, they viewed "Joint medical insurance"

as proof, and the rest as supporting evidence. Reading posts from other helpful users, I think our letter of explanation for lack of mingled finances may have been lacking, hopefully

yours works better.

That's great to know, thank you! Of course having to wait a year is no fun, but it's better to know what to expect. And a year from now, I'm hoping I'll have more evidence to submit.

I got an RFE on my AOS application - my immunization records were insufficient - and once they received the new documents my application was approved within two weeks. So hopefully you won't have to wait much longer!

 
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