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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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You had a wedding ceremony and allowed your inlaws to tell people you are married. https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/fees/reciprocity-by-country/IN.html This page says that Hindu marriages do not have to be submitted to the appropriate authority; rather registering your marriage is optional. So it could be that you are married according to religious law (I think you are) and that is enough to deny a fiance visa. It doesn't matter that you didn't sign paperwork.

And to reiterate something said above, you do not have to get married in India. You can fly to a third country and get a civil marriage if that is easier for you. Cyprus is popular and it's sort of midway.

I know it sucks. Best of luck to you.

Midway?

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Half way? In between?

Well I have flown UK to India and UK to US and Cyprus strikes me nowhere near midway etc.

Must get a new globe.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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It may be easier for him to travel as close as he can to the US to a country where he can get a visa or travel visa free, and where two foreigners can easily get marry. She has the baby to consider, so it might be easier for him to fly further so she can be closer to the baby.

Midway may not be a solution if he can't travel there or two foreigners can't get marry there.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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The CO has discretion on how to interpret the ceremony.

In Ghana people get denied all the time just for having a traditional engagement, for a celebration where both sides of the family meet

even though it was not a wedding.

If you would request a review with the section chief through a senator "while your case is still at the embassy"

with all the points you had in your post, it would be a slim to none chance but you can try.
Once your case is on its way back to USCIS there will be no review and it will expire.

They will not consider that it is a hardship for you to go back now with a new baby.

Many people do travel with infants.Wait until your baby is older and then fly over, get married and file a CR1.

It would be nice for the father to see his child before the CR1 process would be complete.

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I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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I understand you, but try to think a little, because making a wedding ceremony, if not actually happened marriage? really seems like only solution is to get married and apply for the visa wife. so one doubts, you can not a document stating that her boyfriend is single? I think it would help a lot. but have gone through the process before the deadline to guys, and make a wedding ceremony without being married .... are several red flags. so another doubt, if the couple do not follow a religion, because it made a Hindu ceremony?. I wish a lot of luck, and continue. love always wins .



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Let's see.. You submitted photographs wearing wedding dress and jewelry. His family considers you married. You just had a baby; Indians generally consider a baby out of wedlock as taboo. Embassy staff contacted his family, village, etc who basically confirmed you two got married.

Why the surprise he was denied a fiance visa?

That rationale will not make sense to the OP. It's too rational. I guarantee she will be back on to repeat how there's no proof of marriage (other than the wedding attire, picture in said wedding attire, ceremony, and his family believing that they are married, there is none).

I'm with the OP, I don't see how they could've denied them.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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Let's see.. You submitted photographs wearing wedding dress and jewelry. His family considers you married. You just had a baby; Indians generally consider a baby out of wedlock as taboo. Embassy staff contacted his family, village, etc who basically confirmed you two got married.

Why the surprise he was denied a fiance visa?

Because we have documents that state he is legally single, no they did not contact his family his parents signed affidavits that say we are not legally married. And no we participated in some customs but did not follow thru with all the rituals that bind us as married.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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That rationale will not make sense to the OP. It's too rational. I guarantee she will be back on to repeat how there's no proof of marriage (other than the wedding attire, picture in said wedding attire, ceremony, and his family believing that they are married, there is none).

I'm with the OP, I don't see how they could've denied them.

Wow so you just troll threads to criticize instead of offer some suggestion? Nice because when there is so much tension and stress in this process no one makes a mistake, even when they go over the process a thousand times over making sure they dont. You must feel real good about yourself that your status is all set and you can just go make fun of the people going thru the rough time that you just went thru.

Oh let me feed into your criticism no there isn't a legally binding marriage certificate.

You had a wedding ceremony and allowed your inlaws to tell people you are married. https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/fees/reciprocity-by-country/IN.html This page says that Hindu marriages do not have to be submitted to the appropriate authority; rather registering your marriage is optional. So it could be that you are married according to religious law (I think you are) and that is enough to deny a fiance visa. It doesn't matter that you didn't sign paperwork.

And to reiterate something said above, you do not have to get married in India. You can fly to a third country and get a civil marriage if that is easier for you. Cyprus is popular and it's sort of midway.

I know it sucks. Best of luck to you.

This may be an option actually, then I can bring the baby on a flight that's not 18+ hours. I will definitely be looking into this idea. Thanks!

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: China
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In any other case I would have already flown back, I have a one month old now, and can't really take her to a substandard foreign country and can't leave her behind just yet. So we are stuck in limbo, not married but they don't believe us and can't go and marry him. Any suggestions :/ I got in contact with congressman I'm hoping it helps :'(

Is your daughter also his daughter? If so, why would you not want to bring her to India. This gives you so many chances for his family to interact with their granddaughter/grandniece/niece. My wife is planning a trip back to China, and will be bringing our son with her, I can in no way contemplate forbidding her family from having their chance to see him.

Children are born every day in India, and they survive extremely well. Heck, many of the best doctors in the US studied in India.

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Timeline to date:

11/11/14 - Met online through eHarmony
11/12/14 - Started communication through email (1-2 emails daily)
12/20/14 - Communicating through Phone Calls and Video Calls
07/04/15 - First Trip to China to visit her (spent time at her home, her hometown, and Beijing), Met the whole family.
07/18/15 - Sadly I had to return back to the US
10/01/15 - I am returning back to China to be with her again
10/11/15 - She will accompany me back on the same flight for 30 days
11/14/15 - She returns back to China
12/01/15 - I-129F Fed-Ex'd to the Lewisville address
12/03/15 - Packet signed for by the receiver
12/07/15 - NOA1 Generated
12/11/15 - NOA1 Received
01/14/15 - NOA2 Generated (Approved)
01/28/16 - NVC Received (Still waiting papers for official date)
01/29/16 - NVC Case# Assigned (Still waiting papers for official date)
02/03/16 - Case Sent to Embassy
02/04/16 - Case Received by Embassy
03/03/16 - Packet 3 Received
03/03/16 - Packet 3 Sent back to Embassy
03/04/16 - DS-160 Fee paid
03/09/16 - Packet 4 Received (Documents were prepared in advance)
04/02/16 - I return to China to provide moral and emotional support as she goes to her Interview on the 5th
04/05/16 - Interview Date (APPROVED!!!)

04/25/16 - POE Dallas Texas (DFW) smooth sailing through customs

04/25/16 - Arrived in Nashville, TN 10pm
04/29/16 - Marriage Certificate received
SSN filed somewhere after this point (exact date is not remembered, received after a 30 minute wait)
11/16/16 - AoS packet mailed (i-485, i-765, i-131)
11/18/16 - AoS packet received
12/06/16 - Check Cashed
02/28/17 - EAD and AP Approved
03/02/17 - NOA2 for EAD and AP Arrived
03/02/17 - EAD/AP Card Arrived
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OP,

Thanks for making my point.

Did you read one of the other posts that said that you can be legally married without actually filing paperwork for the marriage? I guess you missed that one. The paper that says that your husband is single is worthless due to the underlined sentence. To add, nobody is here criticizing you for enjoyment or to feed their ego like you believe. Most here are really generous with their time and knowledge. People are trying to help you realize that you did this to yourself, so accept it, and move on, because you won't be able to change it. It's done, you're married in the eyes of USCIS.

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