Can Trump stop me from being with my future wife ?

[Boiler 45,519]

Trump wants enhanced vetting, how you vet someone in this situation is beyond me.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Allowing those refugees into our country en masse has already been shown to be problematic. There is not the requisite amount of screening that all of us had to go thru, and many bad characters will get thru the lack of a system. I, too, am against it. There are so many other closer, viable options in the Middle East for those displaced, why can't they go there?

Sorry, they are not let in en masse. They are also vetted before arriving. This is why the process for them takes years.

[Boiler 45,519]

Sorry, they are not let in en masse. They are also vetted before arriving. This is why the process for them takes years.

How is it possible to vet someone from say Syria?

Or Libya?

Home visits?

[Teddy B 17,252]

Sorry, they are not let in en masse. They are also vetted before arriving. This is why the process for them takes years.

I thought they were all snuck in the backdoor with a nudge and a wink and told to vote democrat?

[Boiler 45,519]

[yuna628 9,676]

It takes a quick google with a plethora of information to find out how the US gov 'vets' a refugee from Syria.

Conservative sources even agree.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/13/donald-trump/wrong-donald-trump-says-theres-no-system-vet-refug/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/18/syrian-refugees-describe-confusing-vetting-process-uncertainty-in-america.html

http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2015/12/how-the-refugee-vetting-process-works

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/30/the-process-for-interviewing-vetting-and-resettling-syrian-refugees-in-america-is-incredibly-long-and-thorough/

http://theweek.com/speedreads/589290/heres-what-process-vetting-syrian-refugees-actually-looks-like

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/19/what-you-dont-know-about-vetting-syrian-refugees/

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/20/us/why-it-takes-two-years-for-syrian-refugees-to-apply-to-enter-the-united-states.html?_r=0

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20160724/THISJUSTIN/307249987/0/rhstaff

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/newsy/the-us-refugee-vetting-process-is-far-tougher-than-donald-trump-says

Please explain what ''extreme vetting'' is, how it works, and what steps are a part of that process?

Edited October 11, 2016 by yuna628

[Boiler 45,519]

There is no effective system, how could there be?

If you read those links they say the same.

Ask Trump what he means, I have no idea.

[yuna628 9,676]

There is no effective system, how could there be?

If you read those links they say the same.

Ask Trump what he means, I have no idea.

Sounds pretty effective to me. Out of everyone that applies according to the data in the articles, only a small amount get in. It's still a lot, but not as much at the start. It's also a very terrifying, confusing, and agonizing experience for some of them. I mean do you feel the vetting done to you was effective? Do you feel the vetting done to visitors is effective? Naturalized citizens?

So far none of the attacks have come from refugees. We've (and some other governments) have caught those pretending to be refugees wanting to do bad things so far. Other governments have potentially not been so great on that. That's a failure on their part they need to correct. The most recent attacks have all been from naturalized US citizens brought to the country at a young age, unless you count the SB attackers (I'd point to a big fat failure at CSC there, but point out one attempt out of the millions since the program was instituted is a positive statistic).

Trump has been asked what it means, I've even enquired with his supporters. The best he can do is jut repeat the word ''extreme'' multiple times for added emphasis. He hasn't got an honest clue and neither, do the supporters. They are being spoon fed and led to believe that there is no process or vetting at all. They don't know anything about the immigration system or legal process, because the average American can't be bothered to find out or doesn't care.

This is the same exact xenophobic attitude that has been brought against every refugee in our entire US history, Boiler. It's frankly getting old and pathetic.

[Boiler 45,519]

Obviously nobody knows what checks they were subject to were, I assume cursory.

Visitors, most is for show. I assume it would be similar to Airport checks.

There have been lots of issues, just not many so far in the US.

Different time, different situations. Just have to get used it it I suppose.

Things will undoubtedly get more interesting, quite how things pan out then, well I can not think of any positive historical examples, can you?

Edited October 11, 2016 by Boiler

[smilesammich 10,727]

just not many so far in the US.

keep the dream alive boiler.

[Boiler 45,519]

keep the dream alive boiler.

Vaguely interesting for a remote view, Military History was always my passion and there were many things I could not understand, why did societies do things that seem so suicidal?

It is the way of the world it seems.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Vaguely interesting for a remote view, Military History was always my passion and there were many things I could not understand, why did societies do things that seem so suicidal?

It is the way of the world it seems.

paranoia and senseless execution? yeah. seems to be the theme song.

[Boiler 45,519]

paranoia and senseless execution? yeah. seems to be the theme song.

I am looking at things that happened, so hardly either applies.

Anyway we are where we are, nothing that anybody on here thinks will change things, what will be will be.

[yuna628 9,676]

There is a saying Boiler: Those who do not learn from their history are doomed to repeat it. But I guess, suicide is in the eye of the beholder.

paranoia and senseless execution? yeah. seems to be the theme song.

I'd suggest the good ol' Megadeth classic, Symphony of Destruction?

[Boiler 45,519]

More a Hawkwind kind of guy, but yes that phrase is SO appropriate.