So sad!

[LionessDeon 2,060]

No this letter is not the same thing as being put on AP. He was denied. AP means additional work to be done prior to decision making or visa issuance.

Red Flags:

1. Is there an age difference?

a. Is the female several years older than the male? If so, is she of child bearing age?

2. Are you different religions?

3. What are the norms of the beneficiaries country's customs and culture. Did your relationship follow those when possible?

Slim chance he would be approved for a visitor's visa....especially at this point when they now know there is intent to immigrate.

I believe MENA and west African countries have much more difficult and scrutinizing embassies.

Edited October 5, 2016 by LionessDeon

[AJS15 7]

No

Back to his business, what happens when he leaves, does he have a management structure for it to continue?

No he plans on his friend/co-worker taking it over. He is planning on coming here and expanding my business with me. We didn't see the need for him to continue with that business when he can't be there to actually fix the phones or do anything with the business. Maybe when we decide to move there in many years we will start it again with his friend.

No this letter is not the same thing as being put on AP. He was denied. AP means additional work to be done prior to decision making or visa issuance.

Red Flags:

1. Is there an age difference?

a. Is the female several years older than the male? If so, is she of child bearing age?

2. Are you difference religions?

3. What are the norms of the beneficiaries country's customs and culture. Did you relationship follow those when possible?

Slim chance he would be approved for a visitor's visa....especially at this point when they now know there is intent to immigrate.

I believe MENA and west African countries have much more difficult and scrutinizing embassies.

I am older and we don't share the same religion. But that shouldn't matter! We are in love! That's what matters at least to me!

[Ketsuban 1,034]

not to my knowledge its not illegal cause USCIS approve's Green cards to people adjusting from B2 visa's everyday without penalty... BUT if you come over on a B2 with intent to marry i do think it become illegal at that point but im not sure.. If you have intent to marry then I think you need to go via a k1 OR you can get married then file for a CR1 which is a spouse visa.. Once again ive never dealt with a B2 visa so i dont know the conditions of the b2 visa so i would read up on it or visit the B2 section this website or go to the AOS section and talk with people who are adjusting from a B2 visa... All i can say is do ALLOT of reading and way up your options

If someone comes in on the VWP or with a tourist visa with the intent to go home within the timeframe, but ends up meeting someone or decides to get married after they have entered, technically this is not fraudulent, but it is rather hard to prove either way what the intention was. Legally speaking, USCIS are not allowed to deny AOS to someone based on intent at the border alone, but it could spur them into nitpicking other things and denying based on those instead.

Loads of people do it every year no problem, just not something I would personally have done.

[Moslund 94]

No

Back to his business, what happens when he leaves, does he have a management structure for it to continue?

I don't know what him leaving to come visit his fiancé or coming over on a k1 have to do with his business... although yes if he has a reason to return to the country then there is a higher chance of him getting a visitors visa approved but something simple as a reoccurring car payment is proof enough of that

[Scandi 4,166]

I'm surprised you're surprised. You must've known you were going through one of the toughest embassies.. and you only met ONCE for 1,5 week?

Like someone else said, meeting once will be enough to file the i-129f petition, but it most likely won't be enough to get a K-1 visa at an embassy like that one. People have to realize that the i-129f and the K-1 are two very different things.

[LionessDeon 2,060]

No he plans on his friend/co-worker taking it over. He is planning on coming here and expanding my business with me. We didn't see the need for him to continue with that business when he can't be there to actually fix the phones or do anything with the business. Maybe when we decide to move there in many years we will start it again with his friend.

I am older and we don't share the same religion. But that shouldn't matter! We are in love! That's what matters at least to me!

Oh, if I had a dollar for everytime I read that! I understand but, it matters to the embassy when you are trying to convince them of a bonafide relationship. I'm not trying to offend you. I am older than my spouse. I'm just saying you have to look at it from more of a business viewpoint. If your relationship has red flags, which it sounds llike you do, you must go above and beyond to prove bonafide. Just the way it is.

Looking at your embassy info it looks like most are CR1 not K1. So again, the extra mile may have been in order. I visited my then fiance 6 times by the time he was approved. Took youngest children to meet him. Granted JA is much cheaper, but you get the point.

Take some time to use the search tool and research red flags, Senegal embassy info and reviews, and the Gambia portal.

Edited October 5, 2016 by LionessDeon

[Roel 7,192]

No he plans on his friend/co-worker taking it over. He is planning on coming here and expanding my business with me. We didn't see the need for him to continue with that business when he can't be there to actually fix the phones or do anything with the business. Maybe when we decide to move there in many years we will start it again with his friend.

I am older and we don't share the same religion. But that shouldn't matter! We are in love! That's what matters at least to me!

Uh-oh.

Honestly, quite possible that your only option is to go visit him (let's face it, he's not getting a tourist visa) - get married - file for CR-1.

Good luck.

[Boiler 45,571]

You both run small businesses and it does not sound that your one is that successful, why not close that up and you be the one to move?

[Adil & Jeanne 296]

http://mypathtocitizenship.com/which-countries-are-on-the-uscis-high-fraud-list/

all African countries are on the high fraud list / the above webpage shows them in red

sorry, not AOS but with only a 2 year green card you have to apply again after 2 years to extend the green card before he can apply for citzenship

i was wrong about AOS but still it is expensive

and you need more face time

Edited October 5, 2016 by Adil & Jeanne

[marianath 27]

You already said that what matters is that you love each other.

If that is the case you have no other option but to visit more often, stay longer and provide more evidence to the embassy that your relationship is true and genuine.

If this is true love then no matter how far you are and no matter how hard it is for both parties...you guys will have to make it work.

Goodluck on your Journey !!

[AJS15 7]

Oh, if I had a dollar for everytime I read that! I understand but, it matters to the embassy when you are trying to convince them of a bonafide relationship. I'm not trying to offend you. I am older than my spouse. I'm just saying you have to look at it from more of a business viewpoint. If your relationship has red flags, which it sounds llike you do, you must go above and beyond to prove bonafide. Just the way it is.

Looking at your embassy info it looks like most are CR1 not K1. So again, the extra mile may have been in order. I visited my then fiance 6 times by the time he was approved. Took youngest children to meet him. Granted JA is much cheaper, but you get the point.

Take some time to use the search tool and research red flags, Senegal embassy info and reviews, and the Gambia portal.

You didn't offend me at all! I just don't know how to prove how much we love each other! Go visit him numerous times? I'd love to! I loved the Gambia but it cost lots to get there! I will jitsu have to see how I can get over there again. Does it look fraudulent more that he's been denied if I go may him then apply for a cr1? I just don't want to break any laws! I want him here more than anything in the world but I want it done the right way

You already said that what matters is that you love each other.

If that is the case you have no other option but to visit more often, stay longer and provide more evidence to the embassy that your relationship is true and genuine.

If this is true love then no matter how far you are and no matter how hard it is for both parties...you guys will have to make it work.

Goodluck on your Journey !!

Thank you! That is so true! I needed to be reminded that no matter what we won't give up on each other!

You both run small businesses and it does not sound that your one is that successful, why not close that up and you be the one to move?

Well because mine is successful. I would love to live there! People are so friendly and it's beautiful but I can't just close here. I make too much money here than there

[Moslund 94]

You didn't offend me at all! I just don't know how to prove how much we love each other! Go visit him numerous times? I'd love to! I loved the Gambia but it cost lots to get there! I will jitsu have to see how I can get over there again. Does it look fraudulent more that he's been denied if I go may him then apply for a cr1? I just don't want to break any laws! I want him here more than anything in the world but I want it done the right way

Have you considered you moving there? If your applying for the right reason which is love then your not being fraudulent but you need to have the evidence and proof first if not you'll be continued to be knocked back... the more denials you get true less likely you will be to get an approval... your best bet is first try for a reappear if that fails let it be and visit him occasionally for 1-2 years yes I know it's hard to be apart from the 1 you want to be with but it'll be worth it long term... father more evidence over the course of them years then reapply for a k1... even if you apply for a cr1 you still need strong evidence which your lacking

[Moslund 94]

I know you said you make too much money here than what you did if you were there but guess what love has no price tag... I would take a the loss of income if it meant it was the ONLY way to be with my love of my life... by saying your make so much more than that you can't close comes across as saying that you value your income more than fiancé... I'm sure that not the case buts how it comes across

[LionessDeon 2,060]

If you can only go back to visit him once more before marriage and the CR1, I would make it a big one. I mean for a long visit. Face time is what you need now. Take lots of pics with family and friends. Stay with him if possible. You can't just go back for another one week visit, get married, and refile. This embassy wants to see more than that. Take some time, regroup and collect more relationship evidence before re-applying. Do your best to address the red flags if that is possible.

Edited October 5, 2016 by LionessDeon

[soulstriker 274]

No this letter is not the same thing as being put on AP. He was denied. AP means additional work to be done prior to decision making or visa issuance.

Red Flags:

1. Is there an age difference?

a. Is the female several years older than the male? If so, is she of child bearing age?

2. Are you different religions?

3. What are the norms of the beneficiaries country's customs and culture. Did your relationship follow those when possible?

Slim chance he would be approved for a visitor's visa....especially at this point when they now know there is intent to immigrate.

I believe MENA and west African countries have much more difficult and scrutinizing embassies.

so very true a b2 visa from africa is a total waste of time lessons learned , some ppl forget that this is a "US embassy" when we do these processes we have to do it as the us embassies want us to, people seem to always forget that and are pressured into doing the foreign countrys norms to marriage then when they go get denied they are shocked , ive seen it too much on VJ , pays off to research thoroughly , and then explain to your fiances family why xyz cant be done a certain way

Edited October 5, 2016 by soulstriker