221G k1 Casablanca, Morocco

[LuNa11 1]

Filing back to back K-1s have been done before. But you still need to meet again before filing.

Of course!

[LuNa11 1]

He can come and post on VJ, only other option would be for him to move, do not know how that works.

Yes, I'd be more than glad if we would agree to move to Morocco, I suggested that so many times, It'd be great since I have a good job and can afford a living for us both, but he's following his ambitions looking for a better job since he just got his bachelors degree.

[LuNa11 1]

What is the worse part, this could of been caught at the processing level, before it was passed from US to Casablanca, after all it was at USCIS stateside right at the 2 year cut off.

I also understand the CO side of it too with no further visits since the last and only one and with waiting nearly 2 years before filing looks a bit strange, but there is most likely reasons why

I'm really sorry this has happened to you. Its not the end, you can try again with a K1 after another visit, or get married and file for a CR1

Well, I guess it just wasn't enough for the co she wanted proof of more physical time together, and I did talk to my fiance about making another visit before the interview or we could have met elsewhere but he thought what we had was enough sadly it wasn't! Thank you for you kind answer, we'll try to get together soon and discuss options, cr1 is a pain and knowking that I'm a Moroccan girl and he's an American guy.....poses more problems so k1 was really our only chance.

[LuNa11 1]

I am sorry this happened. You are dealing with an embassy that is very very strict and will hold cases to all of the rules. Is it possible for you to get married there?

Thank you for you comment! And marriage isn't possible for us, since we're not of the same faith and either way my fiance can only get like two weeks maximum a year off work, he's busier now than ever after graduation so I guess we wait and plan the next step accordingly.

[LuNa11 1]

+1 on this answer and Facetime, Facetime, Facetime. You don't have enough recent time together. I'm sorry this happened to you. There are many similar threads that say the same thing. Proof of relationship is #1 priority in most cases and not seeing each other for 2 1/2 years is probably what caused the denial.

Thanks, and yes apparently communication proof means nothing compared to physical time together, which is absurd cause there were plenty of people who simply front loaded with pictures and had multiple visits but yea in reality the relationship isn't really genuine, and got approved.......We didn't feel the need to add more proof to show that we're real because we know too well we wouldn't put up with all the ups and downs and the stress of over four years long distance relationship just for a scam! We have lives to run and apart from our relationship that adds a whole lot of weight on everything and it's just a mess!!!! Not everyone's got the time and money to get things done, but what about the rest? We can't give up now, so we'll try something soon I hope.

[LuNa11 1]

You met the requirements for the 2 year rule for USCIS. The embassy wants to see more frequent visits at least a more recent one and

has discretion to refuse to issue the visa under the circumstances. She should not have said you have to meet within 2 years of the interview,

that is not a requirement but her discretionary preference.

You can re file a K1, attach a multiple filing waiver request with the next petition if you do another K1. Marrying and filing a CR1 would be

better because if that gets refused you have the chance for rebuttal. Not so with a K1, once returned it is allowed to expire and will not be

reviewed.

One very small chance which I do not think will be granted but why not try from the angle of that you indeed meet USCIS requirements and were

given no other reason per 221g or verbally.

Contact your senator and request a second interview immediately, with submitted evidence (NOA1 and printed requirements) that you met the

USCIS filing requirements and that you want to be present if granted a second interview as soon as possible. 1% chance perhaps.

You have nothing to lose for trying.

Otherwise best wishes for a successful re filing.

Remember that the visa journey has to be a priority no matter what and you have to give it all the focus and effort you got or

wait for a more doable time in the future when both of your lives are more stable. You can lose more time and years if you don't give it all you got

and that includes several visits and timely filings and lots of expenses. It takes determination and a made up mind.

Thank you for the information! My fiance will indeed try to reach out to his senator or congressman, I honestly don't see hope with this consulate for any other interview....like you said they want more visits to say oh yea you're definitely real, this relationship wasn't something I planned it happened and I don't regret meeting my fiance, it's real to me more than anything that I have in here with me in person, we don't need to prove we're legit to anyone just because we only met once doesn't mean we're a lie, we've been through so much already and I think we should take time off processes and just relax and think things through. I never expected myself to be in this situation and never thought it'd going to be this hard just to be with the one you love, then again it's laws and bla bla bla so it's out of our hands.

[LuNa11 1]

i spent a month with my financee in morocco and had known him talking online every day for more than a year before

K1 denied

spent 2 months there in 2010 to marry and then again a month later for honeymoon and CR1 denied

and 3 more months and another 3 more months to have 2nd CR1 approved

by the time it was approved we were married 5 years

do not file another K1 / marry in morocco and plan some long vacations there

they will not approve a visitor visa for you

you each need to get to know the other more and about the cultures

BTW takes about a month to do paperwork for american to marry in morocco / write me if you need the 2 page instructions

I already know that they don't approve tourist visas in casablanca, and we can't do a CR1, I know you've had a tough journey and eventually it worked out for you so that's good!! It doesn't matter if you knew about each others cultures its just a matter of how genuine the relationship is and whether it has any red flags, we thought it'd be easy but no, we're only two years apart from each other both young and both have a full time job so it's difficult to make time for trips, god knows how hard it's been for me just to manage to attend the interview let alone start something else..

[LuNa11 1]

Can you travel to say Canada a, or Bahamas (ck visa requirements) and

marry there it does not take a month

I guess I can travel to Canada on a tourist visa, since they grant moroccans visas, if you can prove that you have a job and stable income....Etc but the question is what's next? Apply for a K3??? Will a marriage in canada be recognized in the us consulate in Morocco? I don't think so...Its all confusing

[LuNa11 1]

It only took us 10 days to marry in Morocco.... I've seen 9days to 6 weeks. It depends on where you're getting married, who you know, and how much you get done before the USC arrives.

I'm not so sure how it could be done so soon, there's a lot of work that would require for my fiance to be present in Morocco for....Either way I'm a Moroccan girl and he's an American so it's not a piece of cake at all!!!!

[LuNa11 1]

Meeting once two and a half years ago for a week going through one of the toughest consulates. Think about it.

Yes we didn't think about it at all, apparently visits matter more!

[LuNa11 1]

and no offense, you guys are a beautiful couple, age appropriate ect!

if it was this hard for you guys.. i suggest the OP takes your advice!!! if not, then you really are out of luck! if you cant spend a month in morocco and get married, then maybe it isnt ment to be! you only saw each other a week like 2 years ago. doesnt seem that strong of a relationship.

and no offense, you guys are a beautiful couple, age appropriate ect!

if it was this hard for you guys.. i suggest the OP takes your advice!!! if not, then you really are out of luck! if you cant spend a month in morocco and get married, then maybe it isnt ment to be! you only saw each other a week like 2 years ago. doesnt seem that strong of a relationship.

No offense? Come on you have no right judging our relationship because you have ZERO idea how it is and what we've been through, to simply throw a bunch of negative thoughts on us like that while I just had a crappy experience at the consulate yesterday and a lousy long trip home, and get on here to get some support and hope and positive thoughts, so NO OFFENSE to you whomever you are you're certainly not a god or destiny to decide my relationhip isn't meant to be and I'm out of luck.....This forum was made for people to get HELP not to drag their already dragged spirits down to get lower and lower!!! We have enough ####### to deal with at the moment, between the heartbreak after planning a near future life together, we have to postpone and re think everything, while we deal with our lives apart from each other with all that they bring, we wish things were easier but nothing comes easy and this is all worth it at the end.

[Happytobe 164]

I guess I can travel to Canada on a tourist visa, since they grant moroccans visas, if you can prove that you have a job and stable income....Etc but the question is what's next? Apply for a K3??? Will a marriage in canada be recognized in the us consulate in Morocco? I don't think so...Its all confusing

I'm not so sure how it could be done so soon, there's a lot of work that would require for my fiance to be present in Morocco for....Either way I'm a Moroccan girl and he's an American so it's not a piece of cake at all!!!!

Those are things to think about, the validity of your marriage and whether it will be recognized, by not only the US Consulate, but also the Moroccan government, as well. (the Us typically considers married as married, but you should check with the consulate, as they do tend to lean toward that country's customs) Should you immigrate here for marriage and then later you both decide to go back to Morocco, if Morocco does not recognize your marriage, what difficulties would you have travelling there/ living there? You should touch base with your Adoul and/or Imam, to help direct you guys on what will be best for future options. Also, front-loading a petition for Casa is a must, so should you guys do the K-1 again, front-load that application. I know our situation was different (my hubby is the Moroccan), but we had as much done b4 I left as we could, ie Sent documents for translations, had things started w/ the Adoul, had my appointment w/ the consulate set for just hours after I arrived, then straight to Sale for stamps and the other things needed there b4 we went to his home city. There are options for you, just look into them all, and see what is best for the 2 of you. Best of luvk!

[LuNa11 1]

Those are things to think about, the validity of your marriage and whether it will be recognized, by not only the US Consulate, but also the Moroccan government, as well. (the Us typically considers married as married, but you should check with the consulate, as they do tend to lean toward that country's customs) Should you immigrate here for marriage and then later you both decide to go back to Morocco, if Morocco does not recognize your marriage, what difficulties would you have travelling there/ living there? You should touch base with your Adoul and/or Imam, to help direct you guys on what will be best for future options. Also, front-loading a petition for Casa is a must, so should you guys do the K-1 again, front-load that application. I know our situation was different (my hubby is the Moroccan), but we had as much done b4 I left as we could, ie Sent documents for translations, had things started w/ the Adoul, had my appointment w/ the consulate set for just hours after I arrived, then straight to Sale for stamps and the other things needed there b4 we went to his home city. There are options for you, just look into them all, and see what is best for the 2 of you. Best of luvk!

Yes I completely understand what you're saying, thank you for your help and support it's very appreciated!! Best of luck to you as well!!!

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

I understand how you feel, our visa journey took 5 years with a K1 denial after 16 months in AP then a 5th trip for an overseas wedding

which did not happen due to ridiculous red bureaucratic tape, then back to another K1.

You both have to come to the realization that you must prioritize your relationship and what

comes with it in regards to immigration over anything else. YOU know you are a genuine couple but you must convince the CO that decides if you

get the visa or not. When you say I didn't think I had to do such and such to prove a genuine relationship then you simply must rethink the importance

of giving them what they expect, it does not matter what you think is enough.

Read your regional forum and be well prepared with a solid front loaded I-129 packet again which may or may not work.

You have to figure out if you will take the 50/50 gamble or make a wedding happen there and file a stable CR1 even if he has

to change jobs to have a more flexible leave time to spend more time with you.

It depends on how long you want to drag this out or go with everything you got and get it done.

My suggestion is to cool down from this disappointment and shock and take a break and communicate with him how to best move forward.
Make no decisions while you are both emotionally distraught.
I have been through hell and back with immigration and understand you but at the same time I am keeping it real with my advice and want

you to realize it often takes lots of unwanted sacrifices and changes from both of you to successfully get an approval.
Half winging it won't fly. Prioritize what is most important to you, it feels uncomfortable and out of your comfort zone but it gets the job done.

Have the courage to adapt and change some plans and don't be too rigid to say this won't work and that won't work, at least try a wedding there

with well thought out planning and preparation, be open and flexible.

[LuNa11 1]

I understand how you feel, our visa journey took 5 years with a K1 denial after 16 months in AP then a 5th trip for an overseas wedding

which did not happen due to ridiculous red bureaucratic tape, then back to another K1.

You both have to come to the realization that you must prioritize your relationship and what

comes with it in regards to immigration over anything else. YOU know you are a genuine couple but you must convince the CO that decides if you

get the visa or not. When you say I didn't think I had to do such and such to prove a genuine relationship then you simply must rethink the importance

of giving them what they expect, it does not matter what you think is enough.

Read your regional forum and be well prepared with a solid front loaded I-129 packet again which may or may not work.

You have to figure out if you will take the 50/50 gamble or make a wedding happen there and file a stable CR1 even if he has

to change jobs to have a more flexible leave time to spend more time with you.

It depends on how long you want to drag this out or go with everything you got and get it done.

My suggestion is to cool down from this disappointment and shock and take a break and communicate with him how to best move forward.

Make no decisions while you are both emotionally distraught.

I have been through hell and back with immigration and understand you but at the same time I am keeping it real with my advice and want

you to realize it often takes lots of unwanted sacrifices and changes from both of you to successfully get an approval.

Half winging it won't fly. Prioritize what is most important to you, it feels uncomfortable and out of your comfort zone but it gets the job done.

Have the courage to adapt and change some plans and don't be too rigid to say this won't work and that won't work, at least try a wedding there

with well thought out planning and preparation, be open and flexible.

Well, I want him here in Morocco with me, I have a good life and I really don't need none of that complicated stuff for at least a few years! He's not interested in visiting my country anymore at all, so it's done for me. I've also had enough with the paperwork and visa stuff, I need sometime for me to focus on my career and well being. But thank you for your understanding, I appreciate it!!!!!