Trump believes Obama was born in the United States:campaign

[Rob L 3,811]

Donald Trump's Pants on Fire claim that he 'finished' the Obama birther talk

By Louis Jacobson on Friday, September 16th, 2016 at 2:06 p.m.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump speaks during a campaign event at the Trump International Hotel, Sept. 16, 2016, in Washington. (Getty)

After years of promoting the theory that President Barack Obama was born in a foreign country -- one that has been consistently debunked by fact-checkers -- Donald Trump reversed course on Sept. 16, 2016, and said Obama was born in the United States.

"President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period," Trump said while briefly addressing the subject at the end of a campaign event at his newly built hotel in Washington.

We’ve separately ruled this a Full Flop. But Trump’s other remarks on the so-called "birther" controversy have inspired fact-checks of their own.

Trump prefaced his statement about Obama’s birthplace by saying, "Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it. I finished it. You know what I mean."

We rated the first part of that claim that "Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy" False.

Here, we’ll fact-check the assertion that Trump "finished it."

We didn’t hear back from the Trump campaign, but the evening before Trump’s announcement in Washington, Jason Miller, a senior communications adviser with the campaign, sent out a news release saying in part, "In 2011, Mr. Trump was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion by successfully compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate. Mr. Trump did a great service to the President and the country by bringing closure to the issue that Hillary Clinton and her team first raised."

So it appears that the campaign’s argument is that Trump pushed for Obama to release the long form of his Hawaii birth certificate on April 27, 2011, several years after the birther controversy bubbled up. Previously, a shorter version of the document had been available, but skeptics had been calling for the full document to be released.

Trump himself had made this case as early as Aug. 22, 2013, when he tweeted, "Why are people upset w/ me over Pres Obama’s birth certificate? I got him to release it, or whatever it was, when nobody else could!"

But for Trump’s argument to hold water, we see two conditions that have to be met. First, did Trump "finish" advocating for the birther viewpoint once Obama released the long-form birth certificate? And second, did Obama’s release of the long-form certificate "finish" the idea among American voters that Obama was born outside the United States?

In both cases, the answer is no.

[floridadave 195]

He's a pathological liar. An insincere admission years overdue sandwiched between lies and no apology. Yup, I’m convinced. Public needs to keep up the pressure for an apology and a full explanation of why it took so long. Also, I’ve read nothing about what the “people” he sent to Hawaii found in their investigation and why they feel they cannot believe what they found.

And where are those tax returns. The cynic in me is getting a bit suspicious. What is he hiding?

[Rob L 3,811]

He's a pathological liar. An insincere admission years overdue sandwiched between lies and no apology. Yup, Im convinced. Public needs to keep up the pressure for an apology and a full explanation of why it took so long. Also, Ive read nothing about what the people he sent to Hawaii found in their investigation and why they feel they cannot believe what they found.

And where are those tax returns. The cynic in me is getting a bit suspicious. What is he hiding?

and...

where are the apologies for questioning how the president got into Harvard, whether anyone at Harvard even saw him, how he got to be Editor of the law review?

[Boiler 46,412]

Was it not Hillary that started this all?

[CarlosAndSveta 808]

Was it not Hillary that started this all?

No!

[Boiler 46,412]

No!

During the Democratic Party's 2008 presidential primaries, anonymous e-mails from supporters of Hillary Clinton surfaced that questioned Obama's citizenship in an attempt to revive Clinton's faltering primary election campaign. These and numerous other chain e-mails during the subsequent presidential election circulated false rumors about Obama's origin, religion and birth certificate

Wikepedia but many other sources

[Rob L 3,811]

During the Democratic Party's 2008 presidential primaries, anonymous e-mails from supporters of Hillary Clinton surfaced that questioned Obama's citizenship in an attempt to revive Clinton's faltering primary election campaign. These and numerous other chain e-mails during the subsequent presidential election circulated false rumors about Obama's origin, religion and birth certificate

Wikepedia but many other sources

Proof?

People are saying?

Edited September 17, 2016 by Rob L

[Boiler 46,412]

Proof?

People are saying?

[yuna628 9,758]

Pseudo-feeling-facts, claims.

Oh my.

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-started-birther-movement/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/16/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claim-hillary-clinton-/

Edited September 17, 2016 by yuna628

[Rob L 3,811]

The proof that Hillary Clinton is the source of this lie?

[Rob L 3,811]

There is no proof that Hillary Clinton was the source of this offensive rumour. Trump knowingly lied about this topic and like a coward pushed the fault on someone else

Trump has built his candidacy on this lie. He even told George Stefanapolis in an interview that he would produce his tax return when the president produced his birth certificate. He leveraged this lie to tap into the anxiety that folks have about someone who doesn't look like them became president.

Edited September 17, 2016 by Rob L

[Boiler 46,412]

Proof?

Clinton's are not that stupid.

This is not beyond reasonable doubt, but from a time when Hillary was trying to knife Barry.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

There's no proof Hillary did anything wrong regarding Benghazi. Or that she inappropriately deleted emails. Or was against gay marriage. She's a great candidate. Believe me. No way she did Bernie wrong, either.

Edited September 17, 2016 by LFEHFN

[Rob L 3,811]

Proof?

Clinton's are not that stupid.

This is not beyond reasonable doubt, but from a time when Hillary was trying to knife Barry.

So there is no evidence linking Hillary Clinton to this lie. Fantasy does not equal reality.

[Rob L 3,811]

There's no proof Hillary did anything wrong regarding Benghazi. Or that she inappropriately deleted emails. Or was against gay marriage. She's a great candidate. Believe me.

She has admitted regret for things going wrong at Benghazi...some want all the blame to be on her.

Her lawyers deleted the emails. Documented fact.

Everyone in the country has evolved on the topic of gay marriage.