Confused about i-864 / joint sponsorship.

[Jjames727 0]

Hello, we're applying for AOS for my wife (she came here on a k-1 visa) and I don't make enough for the poverty guidelines and am planning on doing joint sponsorship with my parents.

First question. Can I do the joint sponsorship between myself and both my parents? Or can it only be between myself and one parent. If it can only be between myself and 1 parent that would bring me to my next question. Instead of the joint sponsorship being between myself and one parent can it be both of my parents and I be left out?

Thanks

[aleful 1,905]

hi

you can't be left out, the petitioner as the primary sponsor, MUST file the i864, regardless of your income.

now, do you live with your parents? only if you live with them, they can combine income with you

it will depend on how much each ones make and if they need to combine income, they will need to make enough for a household of 3

you need enough for a household of 2

[Jjames727 0]

My wife and I have our own house, but it's only my parents property. Same address as them, one mail box etc. My parents have 3 children (ages 10, 16, and 19) living with them. They claim all three on taxes. Last year I made about 14,000. This year I expect to make about 17,000. My dad is disabled and makes about 22,000 and my mom makes about 20,000. If I understand everything in the instructions right for me itsa household size of 2. For my wife and I. But for my parents it would be a house hold size of 6.(including each parent, 3 children, and my spouse) so my income combined with either of my parents wouldn't be enough to meet to 40,000 minimum. I would need both my parents income, correct? Can all three of us fill out the i-864 on my spouses behalf or can it only be me and one other individual?

Thanks so much for the help btw

Edited September 10, 2016 by Jjames727

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

My wife and I have our own house, but it's only my parents property. Same address as them, one mail box etc. My parents have 3 children (ages 10, 16, and 19) living with them. They claim all three on taxes. Last year I made about 14,000. This year I expect to make about 17,000. My dad is disabled and makes about 22,000 and my mom makes about 20,000. If I understand everything in the instructions right for me itsa household size of 2. For my wife and I. But for my parents it would be a house hold size of 6.(including each parent, 3 children, and my spouse) so my income combined with either of my parents wouldn't be enough to meet to 40,000 minimum. I would need both my parents income, correct? Can all three of us fill out the i-864 on my spouses behalf or can it only be me and one other individual?

Thanks so much for the help btw

If you reside together, which you technically do since you have the same address, then you can all 3 combine incomes. You provide your I-864, and each parent provides an I-864A to go along with your I-864 as qualifying household members. Their incomes will be combined with yours on your I-864, making your total household income $57k($17k for you, $22k from dad and $20k from mom).

Your parents provide their most recent tax transcript and proof of current annual income for each of them. Be sure you provide plenty of documentation of your dad's disability income. You will need proof of relationship to your parents, and proof of same residence. Read through the I-864A instructions.

You can also provide your I-864 and have your dad be your joint sponsor instead of qualifying household member. He would fill out his own separate I-864 as the only joint sponsor, and your mom would provide an I-864A to go along with dad's I-864. Their incomes would be combined on his I-864 to meet the requirement for his joint sponsorship. Requirement for household of 6 is $40,725 and they make $42k combined.

[Jjames727 0]

Thanks so much.

We've decided to use all three incomes and have already started filling the forms out.

I think I have one last question. For my fathers income on Disability/Social security. It's broken up into each family member. As in my father himself receives 15,000. But then my two youngest brothers and my mom receive a small amount due to his disability. Should we only include the 15,000 that he receives in his name or should we include everything received from social security?

Thanks

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

List and document what each parent receives in their own names.

[Jjames727 0]

Thanks so much,

I hope this is my last question but we'll see. I'm filling out the i-864 as the sponsor (my parents are filling out the i-864a as joint sponsors).

I'm not sure what to put on part 5 numbers 4-8. numbers 4 and 5 state:

4. If you have dependent children, enter the number here. ______

5. If you have any other dependents, enter the number here. _____

I don't have any children and although in the same household my siblings aren't really my dependents. They're my parents dependents. But I'd imagine being that my parents income is being used to joint sponsor my wife USCIS would want to know about my parents dependents. However I don't see a place on the i-864A to list them. did I overlook something or

Being that we're in the same household should I put them down for #5?

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

Your parents are agreeing to combine their incomes with yours to meet the requirement as qualifying household members. You are not using a joint sponsor. Just wanted to clear that up. Joint sponsors do not file an I-864A.

You do not have any dependents, so you would put 0 for those. Your siblings are not your dependents. There is no place on an I-864A to list dependents. They will not be listed anywhere. You did not miss anything. You will count the immigrant being sponsored, yourself, and your mom and dad. So, a 1 for #1, a 1 for #2 and a 2 for #7. Your total household size on your I-864 will be 4.

[Jjames727 0]

Thanks so much,

I think we're just about set and I think this is my last question,

Do we need to provide financial evidence? For the K-1 I remember we had to send in some bank documents, tax transcripts, proof of employment that stated the position time worked there and if the job was permanent or not. etc...

Do we need to send all this in for AOS? I can't seem to find any information about it anywhere.

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

The I-864 instructions. You must submit most recent tax transcript, and you should provide proof of the current annual income with letter from employer and/or recent pay stubs. If using other income sources, then you need to provide documentation of it. Benefits letter for SS/disability, SSA1099, bank statements showing the deposits each month, etc.

[AverysMom 76]

Thanks so much,

I think we're just about set and I think this is my last question,

Do we need to provide financial evidence? For the K-1 I remember we had to send in some bank documents, tax transcripts, proof of employment that stated the position time worked there and if the job was permanent or not. etc...

Do we need to send all this in for AOS? I can't seem to find any information about it anywhere.

Just the W2s and most recent tax returns. I received an RFE because I sent W2s without the tax return from 2015. Also I did not make enough so I used my dad as a joint sponsor and because he files jointly with my mom she had to file the I-864A form. We all live under the same room but I did not combine my income with theirs because they do not claim me on their taxes and on my taxes I have not included them as my household.

I'd look into that a bit more because if you didn't file with your parents you shouldn't really include them as your household...maybe you can, but just be sure.

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

I'd look into that a bit more because if you didn't file with your parents you shouldn't really include them as your household...maybe you can, but just be sure.

I was not incorrect. If you reside with your parents, then they can provide I-864A forms as qualifying household members agreeing to combine their incomes with that of the sponsor filling out the I-864. No one needs to claim the any of the others on their taxes to do so. They need look no further than the instructions for the I-864.