Chicago surpasses 500th homicide in 2016

[OriZ 3,157]

Huh? What am I supposed to dispute? Are you seriously trying to stand behind a grave generalization based on anecdotal evidence, while condemning other generalizations, and expect me to prove that it ain't so? I already proved my point with my post above. I can say that 99% of black people are criminals because I can show you videos of black people shooting people. Would that be acceptable to you? Why is it acceptable to you to label 99% of Trump supporters based on "evidence" you've shown about a few? There is nothing to dispute here, it is an utterly silly and weak premise to start with. I know enough Trump supporters that don't fit your label to know better just like I know enough black people to know better. I just love highlighting the hypocrisy you guys always bring with you while claiming you are against generalizations but doing it just as much as others if not more.

Why would it always be my job to correct folks that say things I disagree with? I'm not a nanny. If you ask me, the way the people you mentioned in the other thread go about it(maybe with the exception of val who does it respectfully) including yourself is nothing to be proud of. It's like you all take a page right out of Alinsky's book, especially this part “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

I stay out of things that aren't my business. I did note several times in recent years on several different occasions that I disagree with many of these comments, just like I note that I disagree with yours, but I don't attack people personally for exercising their right to free speech.

I saw Marv was a little concerned about me because he was in the middle of a "smackdown post"...have no fear buddy, none of my comments have been removed as far as I'm aware of, I believe you were just in the wrong thread...you're probably looking for the one above. And while we're at it lemme add....since my examples of PC were foolishly challenged without merit, I'll link them all for you to sites that even you guys consider most of them credible, how's that? Only links, no stories, and there's an extra one in there too.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/11/25/ucla-grad-students-stage-sit-during-class-protest-what-they-see-racially-hostile

The Grammar PC BS

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/17/stevenson-college-apologizes-for-serving-mexican-f/

The Burrito PC BS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/30/the-story-behind-the-university-of-new-hampshires-bias-free-language-guide/

The "Bias free language" PC BS

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/389862/school-told-call-kids-purple-penguins-because-boys-and-girls-not-inclusive

Calling "Purple Penguins" instead of "boys and girls" PC BS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/06/16/uc-teaching-faculty-members-not-to-criticize-race-based-affirmative-action-call-america-melting-pot-and-more/

Melting pot not allowed PC BS

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/16/goldsmiths-su-rejects-commemorate-holocaust_n_5995240.html

Huffington Post ok for you? Holocaust PC BS

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8787311/BBC-drops-Anno-Domini-and-Before-Christ-to-avoid-offending-non-Christians.html

Telegraph good enough? BBC removes BC

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4995787/Euro-chiefs-ban-Miss-and-Mrs.html

Euro Chiefs ban Miss and Mrs

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206010/Dennis-Menace-BBC-gives-cartoon-rogue-politically-correct-makeover.html

Dennis the Menace goes PC

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1376539/Seattle-school-renames-Easter-eggs-Spring-Spheres.html

Yes, Easter eggs to Spring Spheres. It is true.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027985/Council-bans-brainstorming-replaces-term-thought-showers--fear-offending-epileptics.html

Brainstorming banned

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/8483171.stm

BBC ok? Apparently asking for reliable and hard working offends the unreliable and lazy.

http://www.news.com.au/national/santa-claus-banned-from-ho-ho-ho/story-e6frfkp9-1111114849356

Australian source on Santa

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html

NBC work for ya guys? Wearing an American flag will send ya home.

Not a single hoax, folks...just a bunch of ridiculous PC madness...but keep calling it BS if it helps you deflect. Like I said it's not about respect, it's about control. Control of what everyone thinks, does or says. How people act, talk, what they believe. They try to shove their beliefs on you and turn you into their little puppy so that god forbid you don't offend their sensibilities...but yet, when it comes to them attacking people, they will go for the jugular. Another case of the same self righteous hypocrisy some of you preach here day in and day out.

So yeah, PC IS totally out of control and guess what, it's something some of us including myself have no intention of ever being a part of. I will never, ever let anyone tell me what to think, how to think, how to talk, and I'll call it as I see it and if it offends someone oh well. The chance of that ever changing with me is like the chance you'll ever see me in a suit and tie...meaning, it's like getting a deaf elephant to stop sitting on you if you call out your "safe word"...I'll be damned if I am ever a part of that. And I'll tell you if my kids were in that school where they want to call them purple penguins instead of boys and girls, I'd either pull them out if I could, or otherwise make sure they said boys and girls as loud as they could every time a teacher said purple penguins, because that's how I roll. I do my own thing and I don't believe in anybody dictating to anybody else how to speak or act so yeah, again, PC is beyond ridiculous and that part where Trump and his supporters are concerned I have no issue with.

But since you love comparing everything, how about you show me where anyone said 99% of muslims are terrorists or 99% of blacks are murderes in this forum, lets start with that since you say I was quick to point that out with Janelle but I don't with others, only problem is it never happened with anyone else. I know people that have been to Trump rallies and the only thing they care about from what you said is PC but not in the way you mean it but the way I did. BTW another thing related to that is calling the president a clown. You might care more about being pc so you were all over me about it but I don't discriminate. I've called the Israeli PM a loser on FB twice this week because well, if I believe it I'll say it and ain't nobody going to change that about me. Leaders are not immune.

Last example of PC...places that don't even let you wish people a merry christmas. I know it's true, because my wife used to work for one of those. Even if you knew the person, so you knew they celebrate Christmas, and not Hanukkah or any other holiday, you had to say happy holidays instead. As a Jew myself, that offends me more than anybody wishing me a merry christmas(which offends me not at all, btw). It offends me as a free person.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Just as I thought. Blaring silence. I love crickets in the fall.

You know what, I'll save you the time; The majority of blacks are killed by blacks, the same as the majority of whites are killed by whites. It's a simple fact that is most likely because murders are typically committed against someone known by the hood rat killing them, be it black or white.

"From 1980 through 2008, 84 percent of white victims were killed by whites and 93 percent of black victims were killed by blacks." From 2009 til now, that number has dipped a little to around 91%.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/article/2015/may/21/updated-look-statistics-black-black-murders/

And to add to that, in the same time frame (1980-2008), the numbers of whites killed by blacks hovered around 19-20%, while the number of blacks killed by whites was about 4-5%.

And no, you cannot slam the data because it's on Fox News or some other conservative site, it comes from the US DOJ:

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Just as I thought. Blaring silence. I love crickets in the fall.

What crickets? You answered your own post. Black on black crime isn't a thing, because white on white crime isn't a thing.

I saw Marv was a little concerned about me because he was in the middle of a "smackdown post"...have no fear buddy, none of my comments have been removed as far as I'm aware of, I believe you were just in the wrong thread...you're probably looking for the one above. And while we're at it lemme add....since my examples of PC were foolishly challenged without merit, I'll link them all for you to sites that even you guys consider most of them credible, how's that? Only links, no stories, and there's an extra one in there too.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/11/25/ucla-grad-students-stage-sit-during-class-protest-what-they-see-racially-hostile

The Grammar PC BS

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/17/stevenson-college-apologizes-for-serving-mexican-f/

The Burrito PC BS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/30/the-story-behind-the-university-of-new-hampshires-bias-free-language-guide/

The "Bias free language" PC BS

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/389862/school-told-call-kids-purple-penguins-because-boys-and-girls-not-inclusive

Calling "Purple Penguins" instead of "boys and girls" PC BS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/06/16/uc-teaching-faculty-members-not-to-criticize-race-based-affirmative-action-call-america-melting-pot-and-more/

Melting pot not allowed PC BS

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/16/goldsmiths-su-rejects-commemorate-holocaust_n_5995240.html

Huffington Post ok for you? Holocaust PC BS

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8787311/BBC-drops-Anno-Domini-and-Before-Christ-to-avoid-offending-non-Christians.html

Telegraph good enough? BBC removes BC

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4995787/Euro-chiefs-ban-Miss-and-Mrs.html

Euro Chiefs ban Miss and Mrs

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206010/Dennis-Menace-BBC-gives-cartoon-rogue-politically-correct-makeover.html

Dennis the Menace goes PC

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1376539/Seattle-school-renames-Easter-eggs-Spring-Spheres.html

Yes, Easter eggs to Spring Spheres. It is true.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027985/Council-bans-brainstorming-replaces-term-thought-showers--fear-offending-epileptics.html

Brainstorming banned

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/8483171.stm

BBC ok? Apparently asking for reliable and hard working offends the unreliable and lazy.

http://www.news.com.au/national/santa-claus-banned-from-ho-ho-ho/story-e6frfkp9-1111114849356

Australian source on Santa

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html

NBC work for ya guys? Wearing an American flag will send ya home.

Not a single hoax, folks...just a bunch of ridiculous PC madness...but keep calling it BS if it helps you deflect. Like I said it's not about respect, it's about control. Control of what everyone thinks, does or says. How people act, talk, what they believe. They try to shove their beliefs on you and turn you into their little puppy so that god forbid you don't offend their sensibilities...but yet, when it comes to them attacking people, they will go for the jugular. Another case of the same self righteous hypocrisy some of you preach here day in and day out.

So yeah, PC IS totally out of control and guess what, it's something some of us including myself have no intention of ever being a part of. I will never, ever let anyone tell me what to think, how to think, how to talk, and I'll call it as I see it and if it offends someone oh well. The chance of that ever changing with me is like the chance you'll ever see me in a suit and tie...meaning, it's like getting a deaf elephant to stop sitting on you if you call out your "safe word"...I'll be damned if I am ever a part of that. And I'll tell you if my kids were in that school where they want to call them purple penguins instead of boys and girls, I'd either pull them out if I could, or otherwise make sure they said boys and girls as loud as they could every time a teacher said purple penguins, because that's how I roll. I do my own thing and I don't believe in anybody dictating to anybody else how to speak or act so yeah, again, PC is beyond ridiculous and that part where Trump and his supporters are concerned I have no issue with.

But since you love comparing everything, how about you show me where anyone said 99% of muslims are terrorists or 99% of blacks are murderes in this forum, lets start with that since you say I was quick to point that out with Janelle but I don't with others, only problem is it never happened with anyone else. I know people that have been to Trump rallies and the only thing they care about from what you said is PC but not in the way you mean it but the way I did. BTW another thing related to that is calling the president a clown. You might care more about being pc so you were all over me about it but I don't discriminate. I've called the Israeli PM a loser on FB twice this week because well, if I believe it I'll say it and ain't nobody going to change that about me. Leaders are not immune.

Last example of PC...places that don't even let you wish people a merry christmas. I know it's true, because my wife used to work for one of those. Even if you knew the person, so you knew they celebrate Christmas, and not Hanukkah or any other holiday, you had to say happy holidays instead. As a Jew myself, that offends me more than anybody wishing me a merry christmas(which offends me not at all, btw). It offends me as a free person.

I'm glad you're still around. Let's begin shall we?

PC isn't the problem. Why? Because as I said before, you can address any issue without resorting to attacking the things I've mentioned. Not to mention, being of a different religion or anything of that nature isn't the problem. The minority isn't trying to change how you think. How I know? Because I spent 4 years here as a Muslim. And I never used my religion to change any rules. In fact, when Ramadan was happening, every year folks would come into my office and eat/drink in front of me. I didn't say anything because it's their right to do so, but I didn't make a deal out of it. But when Thanksgiving came around, a few sailors made a potluck and invited me to it. I declined due to the port issue, but they were like, we made things without it just for you, which was really a heartfelt gesture. But that's just my experience.

As for your I've never seen it outside of Janelle, you must have selective vision. But like you said, I'm here to help. Here's one about Muslims:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/593760-three-current-events-involving-politics-and-religion-edited-title/

Funny how you're not in this one. Maybe it got past you, let's see, another one:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/593978-corbyn-finally-suspends-muslim-labour-mp-who-said-israel-should-be-relocated-to-the-us/page-2

Now, you're in this one, but as another member makes a sweeping generalization that includes ALL Muslims, you didn't make a peep. Which is funny how you said if you see it you'd call it out.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/593066-a-rape-survivor-speaks-out-about-transgender-bathrooms/

Now this one is funny because in another thread you made it a point to say you'd stand outside of the bathroom if your wife was in one because of transgenders. Isn't that a generalization?

And last but never least least, let's look at what's REALLY hot here.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/593656-the-looting-marathon-outrage-as-dozens-of-thieves-are-filmed-brazenly-stealing-bundles-of-water-left-for-londons-official-runners/

I see your buddy made a direct quote about 99% of African-Brits, and you're in this thread as well, but I don't see you condemning that either.

Now I had a bunch of other ones I could bring to the table, like blacks have a lower IQ, or that studying Islam makes you a worse person, but I'll let you address this first. Cause I'm nice like that.

[OriZ 3,157]

What crickets? You answered your own post. Black on black crime isn't a thing, because white on white crime isn't a thing.

I'm glad you're still around. Let's begin shall we?

PC isn't the problem. Why? Because as I said before, you can address any issue without resorting to attacking the things I've mentioned. Not to mention, being of a different religion or anything of that nature isn't the problem. The minority isn't trying to change how you think. How I know? Because I spent 4 years here as a Muslim. And I never used my religion to change any rules. In fact, when Ramadan was happening, every year folks would come into my office and eat/drink in front of me. I didn't say anything because it's their right to do so, but I didn't make a deal out of it. But when Thanksgiving came around, a few sailors made a potluck and invited me to it. I declined due to the port issue, but they were like, we made things without it just for you, which was really a heartfelt gesture. But that's just my experience.

As for your I've never seen it outside of Janelle, you must have selective vision. But like you said, I'm here to help. Here's one about Muslims:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/593760-three-current-events-involving-politics-and-religion-edited-title/

Funny how you're not in this one. Maybe it got past you, let's see, another one:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/593978-corbyn-finally-suspends-muslim-labour-mp-who-said-israel-should-be-relocated-to-the-us/page-2

Now, you're in this one, but as another member makes a sweeping generalization that includes ALL Muslims, you didn't make a peep. Which is funny how you said if you see it you'd call it out.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/593066-a-rape-survivor-speaks-out-about-transgender-bathrooms/

Now this one is funny because in another thread you made it a point to say you'd stand outside of the bathroom if your wife was in one because of transgenders. Isn't that a generalization?

And last but never least least, let's look at what's REALLY hot here.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/593656-the-looting-marathon-outrage-as-dozens-of-thieves-are-filmed-brazenly-stealing-bundles-of-water-left-for-londons-official-runners/

I see your buddy made a direct quote about 99% of African-Brits, and you're in this thread as well, but I don't see you condemning that either.

Now I had a bunch of other ones I could bring to the table, like blacks have a lower IQ, or that studying Islam makes you a worse person, but I'll let you address this first. Cause I'm nice like that.

Wow, wow back it up buddy too much of a smackdown for me. After all this, I still don't see where anyone said 99% of all muslims or 99% of all blacks are either terrorists or criminals. Can you point me to a direct quote pretty please? And what does the transgender thing have to do with anything? That was not a generalization, I said it to make a point. Which, here you go(explanation to this picture will be offered for a small fee of $5 );

[lostinblue 1,989]

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

That's just it, they ARE things. They are facts. Ergo, you saying that "black-on-black crime is a myth" is incorrect. It may not be what you want to admit or hear, but it exists.

What crickets? You answered your own post. Black on black crime isn't a thing, because white on white crime isn't a thing.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

That's just it, they ARE things. They are facts. Ergo, you saying that "black-on-black crime is a myth" is incorrect. It may not be what you want to admit or hear, but it exists.

You are using logic.. you know better

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Sorry. Can't seem to help myself. I just keep coming back for more...

You are using logic.. you know better

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Wow, wow back it up buddy too much of a smackdown for me. After all this, I still don't see where anyone said 99% of all muslims or 99% of all blacks are either terrorists or criminals. Can you point me to a direct quote pretty please? And what does the transgender thing have to do with anything? That was not a generalization, I said it to make a point. Which, here you go(explanation to this picture will be offered for a small fee of $5 );

Aww, I see someone is having a problem with comprehension. Okay, let me see if we can do something about that. It's funny how you keep trying to change the rules so you don't have to be held accountable for your own words.

This is a muslim thread.

Better mind your manners in here or you might find yourself beheaded, crucified, stoned, thrown off a tall building, burned alive, raped, enslaved, beaten, tortured, or worse.

God is Great™

Pretty sure this would count as a mass generalization, but you seem to be specific with your outrage. You actually need to hear the EXACT words in order to call them out. Why do you need a direct quote if you know about the ill intention. Or is this how you excuse yourself from the party?

Muslims hold far dimmer views of jews than non-muslims

What about this one? But let me guess, no 99% right?

So, let's recap. You only want to call it out when it's a specific sentence. You're okay with mass generalization about POC, Muslims, and folks from the LBGT community, that's how I'm seeing this. Now if you can counter with some threads that show a different slant, then I'm all for it.

Lastly, this picture. Isn't this anecdotal evidence? Because from a statistical point, transgender are more likely to be victims of sexual assault than other group. You're stereotyping the group that has more to worry about than you do.

http://www.hrc.org/resources/sexual-assault-and-the-lgbt-community

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), lesbian, gay and bisexual people experience sexual violence at similar or higher rates than heterosexuals. The National Coalition of Anti-Violence Projects (NCAVP) estimates that nearly one in ten LGBTQ survivors of intimate partner violence (IPV) has experienced sexual assault from those partners. Studies suggest that around half of transgender people and bisexual women will experience sexual violence at some point in their lifetimes.

Funny how this picture justifies your stance. I'll post the studies in that other thread since the burden of proof is higher for me, don't know why that is...

That's just it, they ARE things. They are facts. Ergo, you saying that "black-on-black crime is a myth" is incorrect. It may not be what you want to admit or hear, but it exists.

So, does that mean white on white crime exists? Okay then, next thread where a white person does something, we need to talk about it.

You are using logic.. you know better

He's using logic all right, the kind where 2+2+6. But I'm working with him.

[OriZ 3,157]

Aww, I see someone is having a problem with comprehension. Okay, let me see if we can do something about that. It's funny how you keep trying to change the rules so you don't have to be held accountable for your own words.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

This is a muslim thread.

Better mind your manners in here or you might find yourself beheaded, crucified, stoned, thrown off a tall building, burned alive, raped, enslaved, beaten, tortured, or worse.

God is Great™

Pretty sure this would count as a mass generalization, but you seem to be specific with your outrage. You actually need to hear the EXACT words in order to call them out. Why do you need a direct quote if you know about the ill intention. Or is this how you excuse yourself from the party?

As far as I can recall I didn't +1 that comment. This was STILL not the same as saying 99% of Muslims are terrorists, no matter how you try to spin it. And, it looks more like a joke than anything else to me. Whether it is tasteful or not is debatable, but what you guys say isn't even intended as a joke, like, you actually believe what you say about 99% of supporters so umm yeah quite a bit of hypocrisy there. On top of that you tell me that I want to hear the exact words when it's not the words that count it's substance, and generalizing about some while wrong is not the same as generalizing about 99%, yet not that long ago I gave you plenty of examples of anti semitism but you wanted me to give you an exact example that you were giving about black people. So, it works both ways buddy, stop trying to change the rules.

Muslims hold far dimmer views of jews than non-muslims

What about this one? But let me guess, no 99% right?

Infact, it is true that Muslims as a whole hold far dimmer views of jews than non muslims. See, this is actually backed by facts, polls, hardcore data, stats...unlike the examples you give where you pick a few rotten apples and claim they represent 99% of the people. I can show you stats all day long so it's not generalizations, simply numbers, based on their own answers and actions.

So, let's recap. You only want to call it out when it's a specific sentence. You're okay with mass generalization about POC, Muslims, and folks from the LBGT community, that's how I'm seeing this. Now if you can counter with some threads that show a different slant, then I'm all for it.

Lastly, this picture. Isn't this anecdotal evidence? Because from a statistical point, transgender are more likely to be victims of sexual assault than other group. You're stereotyping the group that has more to worry about than you do.

http://www.hrc.org/resources/sexual-assault-and-the-lgbt-community

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), lesbian, gay and bisexual people experience sexual violence at similar or higher rates than heterosexuals. The National Coalition of Anti-Violence Projects (NCAVP) estimates that nearly one in ten LGBTQ survivors of intimate partner violence (IPV) has experienced sexual assault from those partners. Studies suggest that around half of transgender people and bisexual women will experience sexual violence at some point in their lifetimes.

Funny how this picture justifies your stance. I'll post the studies in that other thread since the burden of proof is higher for me, don't know why that is...

So, does that mean white on white crime exists? Okay then, next thread where a white person does something, we need to talk about it.

He's using logic all right, the kind where 2+2+6. But I'm working with him.

A couple answers in the body of the quote, as far as the picture....LOL ya know what I'll give it to ya without the $5...that picture is actually of me. Here's what happened...my wife and I are in Vegas this past spring, and we're at a shooting range together with a friend of hers who lives there whom she hasn't seen in a couple decades. So, we go to shoot some, cause in VT while it's got the most lax gun laws in the country you can only shoot what you own, and we like to try other kinds when we can, and we were just talking that day about the whole transgender thing and making fun of it. So while we're waiting they had to go, so they both did while I waited. and then I had to go, but low and behold(this seems to happen to me at least 50% of the time) the men's was just closed for cleaning. Hmm what do I do it was actually their suggestion, and considering we were saying before that that I wouldn't hesitate(as you made sure to point out), and considering there wasn't anyone else in at the time which they knew cause they just came out of there, so I accepted. As soon as I walked out her friend already had her phone ready and took a video of me coming out, and that's a shot out of the video(she's the one who drew the smiley around it, too). She said she won't post it on FB and I told her she can go ahead because I really don't care...I do what I say and say what I do, unlike some I'm me through n through.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

A couple answers in the body of the quote, as far as the picture....LOL ya know what I'll give it to ya without the $5...that picture is actually of me. Here's what happened...my wife and I are in Vegas this past spring, and we're at a shooting range together with a friend of hers who lives there whom she hasn't seen in a couple decades. So, we go to shoot some, cause in VT while it's got the most lax gun laws in the country you can only shoot what you own, and we like to try other kinds when we can, and we were just talking that day about the whole transgender thing and making fun of it. So while we're waiting they had to go, so they both did while I waited. and then I had to go, but low and behold(this seems to happen to me at least 50% of the time) the men's was just closed for cleaning. Hmm what do I do it was actually their suggestion, and considering we were saying before that that I wouldn't hesitate(as you made sure to point out), and considering there wasn't anyone else in at the time which they knew cause they just came out of there, so I accepted. As soon as I walked out her friend already had her phone ready and took a video of me coming out, and that's a shot out of the video(she's the one who drew the smiley around it, too). She said she won't post it on FB and I told her she can go ahead because I really don't care...I do what I say and say what I do, unlike some I'm me through n through.

As far as I can recall I didn't +1 that comment. This was STILL not the same as saying 99% of Muslims are terrorists, no matter how you try to spin it. And, it looks more like a joke than anything else to me. Whether it is tasteful or not is debatable, but what you guys say isn't even intended as a joke, like, you actually believe what you say about 99% of supporters so umm yeah quite a bit of hypocrisy there. On top of that you tell me that I want to hear the exact words when it's not the words that count it's substance, and generalizing about some while wrong is not the same as generalizing about 99%, yet not that long ago I gave you plenty of examples of anti semitism but you wanted me to give you an exact example that you were giving about black people. So, it works both ways buddy, stop trying to change the rules.

If it was a joke, where's the punchline? The emoji's? Someone saying haha, especially when a Muslim member came in and made it a point to say it was an issue. So tell me, what was funny about it? Why did you think it was a joke?

Infact, it is true that Muslims as a whole hold far dimmer views of jews than non muslims. See, this is actually backed by facts, polls, hardcore data, stats...unlike the examples you give where you pick a few rotten apples and claim they represent 99% of the people. I can show you stats all day long so it's not generalizations, simply numbers, based on their own answers and actions.

Post some links for this. If you're going to use data to prove this, then why is this not believable?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/donald-trump-voters-dislike-american-muslims-219877

67 percent don't like American Muslims. That's more than half. And what's worse? No Trump supporters say anything about it. The racism and bigotry that's taken root within is NEVER called out from those who swear it doesn't exist. Just like your yawn comment when Trump protestors are ganged up on at his rallies.

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As far as I can recall I didn't +1 that comment. This was STILL not the same as saying 99% of Muslims are terrorists, no matter how you try to spin it. And, it looks more like a joke than anything else to me. Whether it is tasteful or not is debatable, but what you guys say isn't even intended as a joke, like, you actually believe what you say about 99% of supporters so umm yeah quite a bit of hypocrisy there. On top of that you tell me that I want to hear the exact words when it's not the words that count it's substance, and generalizing about some while wrong is not the same as generalizing about 99%, yet not that long ago I gave you plenty of examples of anti semitism but you wanted me to give you an exact example that you were giving about black people. So, it works both ways buddy, stop trying to change the rules.

If it was a joke, where's the punchline? The emoji's? Someone saying haha, especially when a Muslim member came in and made it a point to say it was an issue. So tell me, what was funny about it? Why did you think it was a joke?

Infact, it is true that Muslims as a whole hold far dimmer views of jews than non muslims. See, this is actually backed by facts, polls, hardcore data, stats...unlike the examples you give where you pick a few rotten apples and claim they represent 99% of the people. I can show you stats all day long so it's not generalizations, simply numbers, based on their own answers and actions.

Post some links for this. If you're going to use data to prove this, then why is this not believable?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/donald-trump-voters-dislike-american-muslims-219877

67 percent don't like American Muslims. That's more than half. And what's worse? No Trump supporters say anything about it. The racism and bigotry that's taken root within is NEVER called out from those who swear it doesn't exist. Just like your yawn comment when Trump protestors are ganged up on at his rallies.

Actually I've already posted links in the past, but maybe I'll post some yet again tonight if I have time.

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Here is but a partial list. I did give you many more links in the past(which at the time you claimed to have looked at all of them) and I believe they are in the Corbyn thread, I just don't feel like looking for it now.

As high as anti-Semitic attitudes were among Muslims in Europe, they were even higher in the Middle East and North Africa where the Jewish populations are either miniscule or non-existent.10 of the top most anti-Semitic countries/territories in the original ADL100 Global index were West Bank and Gaza with a whopping 93%, followed by Iraq with 92%, Yemen with 88%, Algeria with 87%, Libya with 87%, Tunisia with 86%, Kuwait with 82%, Bahrain with 81%, Jordan with 81% and Morocco with 80%.For the first time the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a leading civil and human rights organization in existence since 1913, conducted a new survey to measure Muslim attitudes towards Jews in six Western European countries.

The survey is a follow up to its 2014 groundbreaking worldwide poll on anti-Semitism called the ADL Global 100 Index which compiled data from 102 countries and territories and provided an important insight into national and regional attitudes toward Jews, the levels of acceptance of anti-Semitic stereotypes and knowledge of the Holocaust.

The new survey polled Muslims in countries with a significant Muslim populations – Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the U.K. – and found that and average of 55% of Muslims harbor anti-Semitic attitudes, as compared to an average of 24% among the non-Muslim population. [...]

In Belgium 68% of Muslims harbor anti-Semitic attitudes, compared to 21% overall. In Spain the ratio was 62% to 29%, in Germany 56% to 16%, in Italy 56% to 29% overall, in the UK 54% to 12% and in France 49% to 17%.

http://antisemitism-europe.blogspot.com/2015/12/europe-muslim-antisemitism-is-highest.html

This says something similar just different source:

https://www.algemeiner.com/2015/06/30/adl-poll-shows-more-than-half-of-western-european-muslims-harbor-antisemitic-beliefs/

ADL's own site:

http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/anti-semitism-international/adl-global-100-poll.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/#.V9hiB1QrLIU?referrer=http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/anti-semitism-international/adl-global-100-poll.html

And the map:

http://global100.adl.org/

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That's just it, they ARE things. They are facts. Ergo, you saying that "black-on-black crime is a myth" is incorrect. It may not be what you want to admit or hear, but it exists.

well now i hear those lovely crickets in the fall you were swooning over. if black on black crime is a thing - then logic would dictate that white on white crime is a thing. it's such a huge problem, as a fellow white person what are we in the white community doing to combat this issue of white on white crime?

i'll wait, enjoying the crickets..

Interracial homicides

While the image references 2015, the year is not over, and no official numbers have been released. The latest data comes from the FBI for 2014. This table contrasts Trump’s figures with the official ones.

Trump Number

FBI Number

Error factor

Blacks killed by whites

2%

8%

4 times

Blacks killed by blacks

97%

90%

Just a little off

Whites killed by whites

16%

82%

5.4 times

Whites killed by blacks

81%

15%

5.4 times

The most glaring inaccuracies have to do with white homicide victims. Trump cast blacks as the primary killers of whites, but the exact opposite is true. By overwhelming percentages, whites tend to kill other whites. Similarly, blacks tend to kill other blacks. These trends have been observed for decades.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/