I-751 September 2016 Filers

[nightingalejules 678]

I think the huge surge of H1B visa applications that were being adjudicated right at the time of the initial slowdown had more to do with CSCs backlog. H1Bs are ONLY adjudicated at CSC. Blaming DACA is easy, but those petitions are adjudicated at many offices, and would have affected all of them, not just CSC.  

[sddude89 31]

12 hours ago, nightingalejules said:

I think the huge surge of H1B visa applications that were being adjudicated right at the time of the initial slowdown had more to do with CSCs backlog. H1Bs are ONLY adjudicated at CSC. Blaming DACA is easy, but those petitions are adjudicated at many offices, and would have affected all of them, not just CSC.  

I don't think BLAMING is the right word to use in this context.

I have no opinions on DACA and have no desire on giving any opinion on that program.

 

All I know is that according to USCIS own numbers there were 260,000+ DACA applications in 2016 and 472,000+. That is a HUGE surge. HUGE. And not only that, but it seems USCIS is at full speed processing those.

Contrast that to I-751s where they went from 134,000 approved in 2016 to only 89,000 in 2017.

Furthermore, if you look at the Processing times at all service centers, DACAs (I-821D) are pretty much current (currently processing January 2017) which is an amazing feat given how many applications they receive.

The only applications (excluding I-130 for brothers, etc) that are way behind are the I-751s.

 

I-751s are not a priority, people can carry on with their lives with a pending I-751. Frustrating, yes. 

[frigatebird 28]

On ‎12‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 8:12 AM, sddude89 said:

These are facts, not speculation:

 

USCIS fiscal year 2016:

I-751s: Received=144,648; Approved=134,288

I-821D: Received=260,725; Approved=199,084

 

USCIS fiscal year 2017:

I-751s: Received=166,431; Approved=89,001

I-821D: Received=472,873; Approved=462,713

 

Make your own conclusions.

BTW, I-821D is DACA.

It looks like they process 2017 before they complete 2016 applicants? 89001 approved already for 2017 filers. The rest of 2016 filers are still waiting. They don't process according to order of filing time?

[sddude89 31]

8 minutes ago, frigatebird said:

It looks like they process 2017 before they complete 2016 applicants? 89001 approved already for 2017 filers. The rest of 2016 filers are still waiting. They don't process according to order of filing time?

No. That's not what the numbers mean.

USCIS approved 89,001 applications IN 2017 (not from 2017).

Those 89,001 applications approved in 2017 probably have NOA dates of 2016.

[frigatebird 28]

22 hours ago, sddude89 said:

No. That's not what the numbers mean.

USCIS approved 89,001 applications IN 2017 (not from 2017).

Those 89,001 applications approved in 2017 probably have NOA dates of 2016.

I see, it's really unfair for our 2016 filers as we paid the same amount of money for the service.

[tiglon 5]

Hello all,

 

I sent my 751 package to the USCIS on 9-30-2016 to the California Service Center (CSC). I got a week later my NOA with date of 10-03-2016. Then, I had my Biometrics on 12-08-2016. I have not had any change to my case since my Biometrics. 

 

I did an Info-Pass appointment in Sacramento on  Friday, December 15th, 2017 at 8:00AM. I took my NOA, Biometric letter and my passport to the appointment. They did not ask me for the Biometric letter.  I told the officer with whom I checked in that my letter extension residency would expire on 12-19-2017. They just told me that they were behind in time and they would stamp my passport. So, they stamped it to extend my proof of permanent residence until December 14th, 2018. When the officer gave me my passport back sealed, she told me: "If you did not get your green card in the next year, come to get another stamp. Will I need another seal? Who knows!!

 

I got in there around 7:45am. I was out at 8:00am. So, it did not take more than 15 minutes the appointment. If someone could add my case to the list, I will appreciate it. I have not applied for Citizenship.

 

Good luck to all.

 

 

 

 

[shell20 746]

On 12/12/2017 at 1:06 AM, sddude89 said:

I am not sure that's entirely true.

 

But I can only speculate that CSC work load is currently higher and has been impacted to a greater extent by the surge of DACAs than Vermont.

Which geographically makes sense, as CSC serves California and Arizona where I would assume most of the DACAs are.

 

The answer is definitely not that CSC is a bunch of inept people.

 

interesting reading that would make sense as to why CSC are so miserably behind on 1-75i. However, I believe that if the CSC are not a bunch of inept people, then the management team and their business model is!  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I personally feel  that someone needs to be accountable for the long waits.  

 

I understand that  the 1-75i is not a priority, I get that, yet i have seen numerous people suffer whilst waiting upon this process, some have been rejected after applying for a mortgage, some rejected after applying for a job,. There have been numerous other things that have had huge impacts on the applicants life.  The USCIS system is  just not working, it seems to be in utter chaos. I also feel the increase in fees last December compared to the service offered since,  does not reflect or justify the said rise.

 

  I will get off my podium now!

[Ketsuban 1,034]

34 minutes ago, shell20 said:

interesting reading that would make sense as to why CSC are so miserably behind on 1-75i. However, I believe that if the CSC are not a bunch of inept people, then the management team and their business model is!  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I personally feel  that someone needs to be accountable for the long waits.  

 

I understand that  the 1-75i is not a priority, I get that, yet i have seen numerous people suffer whilst waiting upon this process, some have been rejected after applying for a mortgage, some rejected after applying for a job,. There have been numerous other things that have had huge impacts on the applicants life.  The USCIS system is  just not working, it seems to be in utter chaos. I also feel the increase in fees last December compared to the service offered since,  does not reflect or justify the said rise.

 

  I will get off my podium now!

I also believe that in Georgia, they will only renew the driver's license for something like 120 days, then you're SOL until you get the Green Card. So if you're a conditional immigrant in GA, don't plan on long term employment unless it's within walking distance of you

 

I honestly hope I'm wrong about that but it's what I read online about that State. I was lucky that Ohio gave me one that expires at the end of next year. 

[shell20 746]

13 minutes ago, Ketsuban said:

I also believe that in Georgia, they will only renew the driver's license for something like 120 days, then you're SOL until you get the Green Card. So if you're a conditional immigrant in GA, don't plan on long term employment unless it's within walking distance of you

 

I honestly hope I'm wrong about that but it's what I read online about that State. I was lucky that Ohio gave me one that expires at the end of next year. 

Just another reason why ROC adjudication is more important than they seem to realise.  To be honest and from my perspective (which i know not everyone will agree, but that is ok)  I feel that citizenship is far less important other than it entitles you to apply for specific jobs and a passport.  If you have the 10 year card you can get on with your life. i guess the N400 is important due a sense of belonging and loyalty to the country as the country is founded on immigration. i might be wrong as to why the N400 would take priority though.

[sddude89 31]

7 hours ago, shell20 said:

interesting reading that would make sense as to why CSC are so miserably behind on 1-75i. However, I believe that if the CSC are not a bunch of inept people, then the management team and their business model is!  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I personally feel  that someone needs to be accountable for the long waits.  

 

I understand that  the 1-75i is not a priority, I get that, yet i have seen numerous people suffer whilst waiting upon this process, some have been rejected after applying for a mortgage, some rejected after applying for a job,. There have been numerous other things that have had huge impacts on the applicants life.  The USCIS system is  just not working, it seems to be in utter chaos. I also feel the increase in fees last December compared to the service offered since,  does not reflect or justify the said rise.

 

  I will get off my podium now!

The frustration is completely understood.

 

But it is too bad that many folks on temporary green cards don't know their rights and what to do. Life should go on regardless of temporary or permanent green card.

 

When one interviews for a job, the only question that an employer can ask regarding status is "Are you authorized to work in the United States"? And the answer is Yes or No. Any other details are irrelevant. Only when one gets the job, the employer requests the I-9 "Employment Verification eligibility" and supporting documents and it would be illegal to reject someone that has the legal document proving eligibility (expired green card + letter or passport stamp). If an employer has not accepted any of the latter as sufficient for the I-9, a complaint with the DOL (Department of Labor) should be filed.

 

Same goes for mortgages. If you are residing in the US and paying taxes, you are considered a US resident for tax purposes and that's all that the mortgage company should care about. Rejection of a mortgage for having an I-551 passport stamp is not legal. And, mind you, when we applied for a mortgage (with husband), never ever was proof of legal status required. Only Tax Returns, proof of income/assets and credit scores/reports. There might have been box to check "US Citizen/Permanent Resident" but that's it.

 

Same goes for the DMV. The DMV should at least give you a DL valid up to the date your extension is valid for.

 

Be informed and fight for your rights.

A pending I-751 should not be a reason not to have a normal life (other than frustrating wait and annoyances of going to get the passport stamp, going to the DMV too often, etc).

 

As far as USCIS, they are constrained first by budget. No budget, no possibility of increasing  manpower. And second, even if there was a budget to increase manpower, new personnel needs to go through training and background checks. So it is not that the problem could be solved overnight. Add to that uncertainty due to the imminent immigration reform sought by the current administration.

 

I have the mindset that the new normal is 16-24 months for I-751 processing and I will have to live with that, sadly. 

Edited December 18, 2017 by sddude89

[gabreigns 75]

4 minutes ago, sddude89 said:

The frustration is completely understood.

 

But it is too bad that many folks on temporary green cards don't know their rights and what to do. Life should go on regardless of temporary or permanent green card.

 

When one interviews for a job, the only question that an employer can ask regarding status is "Are you authorized to work in the United States"? And the answer is Yes or No. Any other details are irrelevant. Only when one gets the job, the employer requests the I-9 "Employment Verification eligibility" and supporting documents and it would be illegal to reject someone that has the legal document proving eligibility (expired green card + letter or passport stamp). If an employer has not accepted any of the latter as sufficient for the I-9, a complaint with the DOL (Department of Labor) should be filed.

 

Same goes for mortgages. If you are residing in the US and paying taxes, you are considered a US resident for tax purposes and that's all that the mortgage company should care about. Rejection of a mortgage for having an I-551 passport stamp is not legal. And, mind you, when we applied for a mortgage (with husband), never ever was proof of legal status required. Only Tax Returns, proof of income/assets and credit scores/reports. There might have been box to check "US Citizen/Permanent Resident" but that's it.

 

Same goes for the DMV. The DMV should at least give you a DL valid up to the date your extension is valid for.

 

Be informed and fight for your rights.

A pending I-751 should not be a reason not to have a normal life (other than frustrating wait and annoyances of going to get the passport stamp, going to the DMV too often, etc).

 

As far as USCIS, they are constrained first by budget. No budget, no possibility of increasing  manpower. And second, even if there was a budget to increase manpower, new personnel needs to go through training and background checks. So it is not that the problem could be solved overnight. Add to that uncertainty due to the imminent immigration reform sought by the current administration.

 

I have the mindset that the new normal is 16-24 months for I-751 processing and I will have to live with that, sadly. 

Too true.... That was very pragmatic and well said!

[shell20 746]

21 minutes ago, sddude89 said:

The frustration is completely understood.

 

But it is too bad that many folks on temporary green cards don't know their rights and what to do. Life should go on regardless of temporary or permanent green card.

 

When one interviews for a job, the only question that an employer can ask regarding status is "Are you authorized to work in the United States"? And the answer is Yes or No. Any other details are irrelevant. Only when one gets the job, the employer requests the I-9 "Employment Verification eligibility" and supporting documents and it would be illegal to reject someone that has the legal document proving eligibility (expired green card + letter or passport stamp). If an employer has not accepted any of the latter as sufficient for the I-9, a complaint with the DOL (Department of Labor) should be filed.

 

Same goes for mortgages. If you are residing in the US and paying taxes, you are considered a US resident for tax purposes and that's all that the mortgage company should care about. Rejection of a mortgage for having an I-551 passport stamp is not legal. And, mind you, when we applied for a mortgage (with husband), never ever was proof of legal status required. Only Tax Returns, proof of income/assets and credit scores/reports. There might have been box to check "US Citizen/Permanent Resident" but that's it.

 

Same goes for the DMV. The DMV should at least give you a DL valid up to the date your extension is valid for.

 

Be informed and fight for your rights.

A pending I-751 should not be a reason not to have a normal life (other than frustrating wait and annoyances of going to get the passport stamp, going to the DMV too often, etc).

 

As far as USCIS, they are constrained first by budget. No budget, no possibility of increasing  manpower. And second, even if there was a budget to increase manpower, new personnel needs to go through training and background checks. So it is not that the problem could be solved overnight. Add to that uncertainty due to the imminent immigration reform sought by the current administration.

 

I have the mindset that the new normal is 16-24 months for I-751 processing and I will have to live with that, sadly. 

Well my friend you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled not to agree fully. 

 

i have seen many, many people here having problems with mortgage applications and had to fight for their rights which have not always been addressed legally or illegally. i have endured numerous problems myself with the DVL, some employees not even being aware of the rules and regulations.  If the USCIS are understaffed, then I am sure few people wouldn't mind a rise in fees to process applications quicker. Sorry I don't feel sorry for the USCIS whatsoever, its a

business at the end of the day that makes money!

 

As regard to processing times, I am tending to look on the positive side of that, if your figures and valid reasoning is correct and if I am correct, DACA should be calming down shortly, giving chance for CSC to play catch up.

[sddude89 31]

1 minute ago, shell20 said:

Well my friend you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled not to agree fully. 

 

i have seen many, many people here having problems with mortgage applications and had to fight for their rights which have not always been addressed legally or illegally. i have endured numerous problems myself with the DVL, some employees not even being aware of the rules and regulations.  If the USCIS are understaffed, then I am sure few people wouldn't mind a rise in fees to process applications quicker. Sorry I don't feel sorry for the USCIS whatsoever, its a

business at the end of the day that makes money!

 

As regard to processing times, I am tending to look on the positive side of that, if your figures and valid reasoning is correct and if I am correct, DACA should be calming down shortly, giving chance for CSC to play catch up.

Of course we can disagree

And I agree with you about things hopefully calming down.

 

Regarding jobs or mortgage rejections, it is hard to make a generalized assessment, as every job and mortgage applications are unique.

Could it be possible that one was not selected for the job or the mortgage simply because one did not have the required qualifications and it is easier to blame the pending I-751? Maybe yes, maybe not.

One thing for sure is that they should not have rejected the applications solely based on I-751 status and there are legal ways to make ones rights prevail (in addition to be informed, and, unfortunately,  preach and teach the DMV clerk, employer, etc, that having a pending I-751 is OK).

 

 

[shell20 746]

20 minutes ago, sddude89 said:

Of course we can disagree

And I agree with you about things hopefully calming down.

 

Regarding jobs or mortgage rejections, it is hard to make a generalized assessment, as every job and mortgage applications are unique.

Could it be possible that one was not selected for the job or the mortgage simply because one did not have the required qualifications and it is easier to blame the pending I-751? Maybe yes, maybe not.

One thing for sure is that they should not have rejected the applications solely based on I-751 status and there are legal ways to make ones rights prevail (in addition to be informed, and, unfortunately,  preach and teach the DMV clerk, employer, etc, that having a pending I-751 is OK).

 

 

Unfortunately I can not answer for the mortgage applicants, I guess it could be, but after dealing with social security and dmv with my own issues, i am inclined to believe its a lack of training or awareness on the company involved rather than the applicant.

[sddude89 31]

26 minutes ago, shell20 said:

Unfortunately I can not answer for the mortgage applicants, I guess it could be, but after dealing with social security and dmv with my own issues, i am inclined to believe its a lack of training or awareness on the company involved rather than the applicant.

I can't disagree with that.