New K1 subforums?

[Yodrak 7]

Captain Ewok,

Make it a regular forum, and make it for any stage of the VJ process - anything that just says "I got it", no matter what 'it' is, to which all responses are likely to be "Congratulations".

Yodrak

Can anyone comment on how easy the new section is to find? Should we make it a regular forum and not a sub forum? etc... let me know .

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

Where would such a forum b e placed? I am certainly open to this if it makes sense and does not create a forum that is cluttered with unrelated information.

[TracyTN 237]

It may not be a good idea to put names forward at this point so much as focus purely on the need for better moderation, the parameters of moderating work, and the method and circumstances of selection. If, for example, it is felt that Captain Ewok ought to be the arbiter of choice in selection, it's unjust to push names forward here that could influence choice to the possible detriment of others who are busy in other areas and not mentioned here.

Personally, I'd like to see an agreement on there being member-based moderators appointed and have their roles clarified before there was any suggestion as to who might be best suited. Different roles may warrant consideration of different people after all.

Which is why I suggested that we perhaps start a thread in which to have the discussion.

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

Sure thing. If am pretty pressed for time at the moment so if you want to start it I will chime in later. Mention the new forum and make sure to clearly define how the new idea mike augment or replace that purpose. Conversation is always good!

[TracyTN 237]

Done!

[Nagishkaw 510]

Oh, and as for how they are chosen.... the problem is that Captain Ewok has to be able to work closely with them and have trust in them as part of the 'management team' so in reality he's going to have to pick them. There are several ways of going about it, the only really bad one is by asking for volunteers. I'd say the best way is one of two methods:

Method 1: Captain Ewok decides, based on whatever criteria appears to him to be most appropriate to the forum and after giving whatever thought he sees as necessary. It's not as arbitrary as it seems to do it that way - it was how the original moderating team were picked, and (not speaking for myself but the others) worked very well in practice.

Method 2: We start a new thread here asking for nominations for moderators, where any person nominating someone has to give a brief explanation as to why. After a set period, nominations close and Captain Ewok then decides who won. We can't risk it being done by popular vote because there are too many possible 'winners' who are popular because they belong to a clique or group and who would win for that reason rather than their moderating skills.

Of the two, I'd favor method 1. It's simplest and ensures Captain Ewok retains overall control. I propose 5 moderators be selected with the objective of setting them loose no later than mid-April, for perhaps 3 months as a trial. Any of the 5 could have that status revoked if there are a significant volume of complaints which Captain Ewok adjudges to be fair. If, after 3 months it seems to be working well, the moderators continue in place.

I'm in favour of method #1. Let C. Ewok decide.

[TracyTN 237]

Sure thing. If am pretty pressed for time at the moment so if you want to start it I will chime in later. Mention the new forum and make sure to clearly define how the new idea mike augment or replace that purpose. Conversation is always good!

Sorry, I guess I completely misunderstood what you were asking me to do.

I didn't realize all that we were going to discuss now for moderation is 'tools'. I guess I'm just confused.

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

Please see this post regarding member moderation. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...st&p=808106 At this point I do not think it is possible. I am however (as you can see from yesterday) very willing to make changes both big and small to help out based on your comments.

Sure thing. If am pretty pressed for time at the moment so if you want to start it I will chime in later. Mention the new forum and make sure to clearly define how the new idea mike augment or replace that purpose. Conversation is always good!

Sorry, I guess I completely misunderstood what you were asking me to do.

I didn't realize all that we were going to discuss now for moderation is 'tools'. I guess I'm just confused.

No worries. I thought you were going to start a topic discussing a global congrats and progress thread.

[TracyTN 237]

Ok - just got our wires crossed. Sorry.

[Andy 2]

Captain, last year you appeared amenable to member-moderation, for all the reasons that were discussed at the time, and which had been raised as significantly important to the continued functioning of the site as a viable resource. Now you are not, and yet VJ has deteriorated in many ways in that time.

I find it little short of incredible that you do not seem prepared to give any thought to the issues of moderation quality and purpose that we have raised here, other than to promise 'tools' of an uncertain nature that have about as much probability of assisting in these concerns as a newbie K-1 in the legal niceties of a 221g filing.

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, but "I am not considering member moderators. The moderation will continue to be run but non participating parties that act solely based on the Terms of Service" not only falls well short of what is clearly needed in the discussion areas, but is a rather disappointing attitude in the face of members asking for it to be otherwise.

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

There are other issues at hand other than that. I would rather not list them all but suffice it to say that I still think that if we work as a team and with the proper tools the site can see some benefits.

[Marilyn. 340]

Captain Ewok is doing a bang up job around here

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Capt performed a minor miracle on the MENA board the last time he put his foot down over there. That was his most problematic board, and now it's pretty calm and peaceful. Perhaps the lack of problems there have emphasized the problems elsewhere, but even I (who has a bullseye on my back) don't see any drastic problems with posters run amuck. If there are some, please enlighten me so I can be on the same page as those with more concerns.

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

So I would like to possible identify the issues that are troublesome to members. Is it trolls, member attitudes, etc. Certain things are easier to address than others. Can we narrow it down?

For trolls I have a tool I can roll out that if a member is here less than 30 days and his posts are reported more than X times in 24 hours than his account is automatically suspended pending review. This is a way that members can flag obvious trolls and has the fail safe that within 12-24 hours I will review it and unlock the account if needed.

[Mags 112]

If a member is an obvious troll, of which there have been a few, can you not ban that IP number?