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  1. 1. Is it Fair for Got to admit these into Heaven?

    • Yes
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    • No
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    • I dont' care
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    • Yes Because that is the right thing to do.
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    • No, they should have to come the same way as everyone else.
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    • I don't believe in God, so the question to me is mute
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    • Yes because I believe that this is what the Bible teaches.
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    • No, I do not believe the Bible teaches this.
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Yup KarenCee, I was taught the same thing. But the Baptists have it wrong, IMO. Maybe they should pay attention to the Scriptures instead of some ' CHURCH ' doctrine. Personally, I prayed on this matter for a long time. I typed basically what I received in the Spirit. This being some years ago.

N.o offense to any Baptists

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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I see the question of mentally ill people who commit capital crimes went unanswered. The difficult ones always do...
The word is moot. Not mute.

Yeah - that makes no sense.

And the clarification of that seems to be that "if you don't believe in God you should shut up". Go figure...

Again, the concept here is Will the Judge of the whole earth not do right?

Abraham asked that question of God when the Lord said that He would destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham said would you destroy the righteous with the wicked, should not the judge of the whole earth do right? He asked that question because Abrahams nephew Lot lived there with his family. the angels came and removed Lot and his family before God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

The Lord will judge the mentally incapcitated fellon's heart and He knows whether or not he understood what he was doing or not. Unlike us who cannot really judge the condition of a person's heart. More important is that you know what is required of you now, so you are responsible for the decision you have made so far to reject Jesus offer of a full pardon for your sins. Why would you do that, He loves you so much?

From the Bible and from the words of Jesus, it is clear that the Lord will be much more fair than you or I would be.

Rob

I don't believe I said I didn't believe John 14:6 I just said that I was confused because there doesn't seem to be no conditional clause. it says "nobody will get to heaven but through me" there is no "unless you don't have the capacity to know Jesus"

know what i mean?

I see, the point though is that these babies and others DO get to heaven through Jesus! Awesome news!

Rob

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Rob, I'm glad that things are so simple and clear for you. I just can't understand why you won't accept that they are not so for everybody.

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Rob, I'm glad that things are so simple and clear for you. I just can't understand why you won't accept that they are not so for everybody.

I understand that, they are not always that clear to me also. I only know what I learned from the Bible the last 32 years. Sorry if I am sounding like a know it all, because there is alot more that I dont know, than I do know.

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I see the question of mentally ill people who commit capital crimes went unanswered. The difficult ones always do...
The word is moot. Not mute.

Yeah - that makes no sense.

And the clarification of that seems to be that "if you don't believe in God you should shut up". Go figure...

Again, the concept here is Will the Judge of the whole earth not do right?

Abraham asked that question of God when the Lord said that He would destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham said would you destroy the righteous with the wicked, should not the judge of the whole earth do right? He asked that question because Abrahams nephew Lot lived there with his family. the angels came and removed Lot and his family before God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

The Lord will judge the mentally incapcitated fellon's heart and He knows whether or not he understood what he was doing or not. Unlike us who cannot really judge the condition of a person's heart. More important is that you know what is required of you now, so you are responsible for the decision you have made so far to reject Jesus offer of a full pardon for your sins. Why would you do that, He loves you so much?

From the Bible and from the words of Jesus, it is clear that the Lord will be much more fair than you or I would be.

Rob

I think you make a lot of assumptions about others beliefs.

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Rob, I'm glad that things are so simple and clear for you. I just can't understand why you won't accept that they are not so for everybody.

As of right now, more VJers love free porn on the internet than love Jesus. I wasn't expecting that at all LOL!!!

I think that makes the point that I have said all along...

Rob

PS Porn will rot your brain :jest:

I see the question of mentally ill people who commit capital crimes went unanswered. The difficult ones always do...
The word is moot. Not mute.

Yeah - that makes no sense.

And the clarification of that seems to be that "if you don't believe in God you should shut up". Go figure...

Again, the concept here is Will the Judge of the whole earth not do right?

Abraham asked that question of God when the Lord said that He would destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham said would you destroy the righteous with the wicked, should not the judge of the whole earth do right? He asked that question because Abrahams nephew Lot lived there with his family. the angels came and removed Lot and his family before God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

The Lord will judge the mentally incapcitated fellon's heart and He knows whether or not he understood what he was doing or not. Unlike us who cannot really judge the condition of a person's heart. More important is that you know what is required of you now, so you are responsible for the decision you have made so far to reject Jesus offer of a full pardon for your sins. Why would you do that, He loves you so much?

From the Bible and from the words of Jesus, it is clear that the Lord will be much more fair than you or I would be.

Rob

I think you make a lot of assumptions about others beliefs.

Then you are a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, that is awesome...oh but maybe I asummed that...why don't you just tell us all how you feel about Jesus Christ and where you stand so that none of us will miss-understand anymore.

Rob

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Then you are a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, that is awesome...oh but maybe I asummed that...why don't you just tell us all how you feel about Jesus Christ and where you stand so that none of us will miss-understand anymore.

Rob

Culturally I'm a Christian, but I don't believe in organised religion.

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Hey sorry, I gotta go for awhile, I am teaching the Book of Revelation tonight at 6, I will be back later...I enjoy the exchange of ideas

Rob

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Then you are a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, that is awesome...oh but maybe I asummed that...why don't you just tell us all how you feel about Jesus Christ and where you stand so that none of us will miss-understand anymore.

Rob

Culturally I'm a Christian, but I don't believe in organised religion.

Well I dont' believe in organized religion either...but what is a Cultural Christian? Never heard of that one. Are you saved? Do you believe Jesus died for you sins, is He Lord of your life...you know...Stuff like that?

Rob

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I don't believe I said I didn't believe John 14:6 I just said that I was confused because there doesn't seem to be no conditional clause. it says "nobody will get to heaven but through me" there is no "unless you don't have the capacity to know Jesus"

know what i mean?

I think pets have the capacity to know god, how come pets know how to show respect?

I think it goes beyond thumping them on the head with news paper..

Pets go to heaven. He created them. He spared them from the flood, did'nt HE, and He made a donkey speak to a man who was whipping him horribly. The Scripture says ' Let everything that has breath Praise the Lord ' .

He created animals before he created man.

That ain't what they teach in the Baptist churches. I've been taught that pets have no soul so they do not go to heaven. The way it was put to me...believe it or not, it doesn't matter...what we say is the truth. One of their favourite sayings is "God said it, that settles it, whether you believe it or not".

I think my dog has a soul.. i asked him he wagged his tail..

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Well I dont' believe in organized religion either...but what is a Cultural Christian? Never heard of that one. Are you saved? Do you believe Jesus died for you sins, is He Lord of your life...you know...Stuff like that?

Rob

Put simply, I don't believe in the supernatural elements.

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Oh Shon ! (F) (F) (F) (F) (F)

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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I don't believe I said I didn't believe John 14:6 I just said that I was confused because there doesn't seem to be no conditional clause. it says "nobody will get to heaven but through me" there is no "unless you don't have the capacity to know Jesus"

know what i mean?

I think pets have the capacity to know god, how come pets know how to show respect?

I think it goes beyond thumping them on the head with news paper..

Pets go to heaven. He created them. He spared them from the flood, did'nt HE, and He made a donkey speak to a man who was whipping him horribly. The Scripture says ' Let everything that has breath Praise the Lord ' .

He created animals before he created man.

That ain't what they teach in the Baptist churches. I've been taught that pets have no soul so they do not go to heaven. The way it was put to me...believe it or not, it doesn't matter...what we say is the truth. One of their favourite sayings is "God said it, that settles it, whether you believe it or not".

I think my dog has a soul.. i asked him he wagged his tail..

I think some pets have more soul than some of the humans I've known.

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