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Should God just let all Babies, Children and Mentally Incapacitated into Heaven for Free  

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  1. 1. Is it Fair for Got to admit these into Heaven?

    • Yes
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    • No
      1
    • I dont' care
      9
    • Yes Because that is the right thing to do.
      1
    • No, they should have to come the same way as everyone else.
      1
    • I don't believe in God, so the question to me is mute
      14
    • Yes because I believe that this is what the Bible teaches.
      5
    • No, I do not believe the Bible teaches this.
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The question was posed to me last night that some persons on this forum do not believe that when Jesus said In John 14:6:

John 14:6 ¶ Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

That All babies, Children and Mentally incapacitated would be iallowed to enter heaven unless they accepted Jesus sacrifice for their sins.

I explained that When Jesus died, He died to pay for the sins of every person that has ever been born, so Babies, Children and mentally incapacitated persons have their sins covered by Jesus sacrifice alrready.

Because they do not have the capacity to understand what they must do to be saved, that God's Grace (unmerrited Favor) allows them entrance into heaven for free, covered by Jesus sacrifice.

These persons dissagreed with this idea, so I said "let's have a poll", so here it is, you decide

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Matthew 5:8 and Mark 10: 13 - 15.

I voted yes because this is what the Bible teaches .

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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The word is moot. Not mute.

No, I put Mute on purpose

Voiceless

Unspeaking

Quiet

The question was "I don't believe in God, so the point is: (not something I want to comment on because I dont believe in God, so I will be quiet, unspeaking, voiceless)

You see if you don't really believe in God then there is no need to comment on God, because to you He doesn't exist, so why would I comment on something that doesn't exist...

See what I mean

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What about pets?

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What about pets?

Great question. We don't know because the Bible doesn't say except that there ARE animals in heaven. This is just MY personal opinion but I think that If you need your favorite pet there in heaven to be Blessed, then the Lord will give Him to you.

I heard a story of a cardiologist who died and found himself in heaven. The man was taken by the Lord to a large house on a hill surrounded by thousads of acres of daffodis. The man said to the Lord, wow Lord you know I just love daffodils! Jesus told him, "Yes I know, didn't I say that I went to prepare a plce for YOU! This house and those flowers arre all yours..."

John 14:2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you

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Interview at Us Embassy Manila, October 18, 2006

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I see the question of mentally ill people who commit capital crimes went unanswered. The difficult ones always do...

The word is moot. Not mute.

Yeah - that makes no sense.

And the clarification of that seems to be that "if you don't believe in God you should shut up". Go figure...

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Pets go to heaven. He created them. He spared them from the flood, did'nt HE, and He made a donkey speak to a man who was whipping him horribly. The Scripture says ' Let everything that has breath Praise the Lord ' .

He created animals before he created man.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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I see the question of mentally ill people who commit capital crimes went unanswered. The difficult ones always do...

At the very least they need to be locked up for a very, very long time or, better yet, forever. They certainly shouldn't be running loose on the streets...that much is obvious. There are no pills that can cure their ills.

What God does with them when they fall under his jurisdiction is of no concern of mine.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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Pets go to heaven. He created them. He spared them from the flood, did'nt HE, and He made a donkey speak to a man who was whipping him horribly. The Scripture says ' Let everything that has breath Praise the Lord ' .

He created animals before he created man.

That ain't what they teach in the Baptist churches. I've been taught that pets have no soul so they do not go to heaven. The way it was put to me...believe it or not, it doesn't matter...what we say is the truth. One of their favourite sayings is "God said it, that settles it, whether you believe it or not".

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I don't believe I said I didn't believe John 14:6 I just said that I was confused because there doesn't seem to be no conditional clause. it says "nobody will get to heaven but through me" there is no "unless you don't have the capacity to know Jesus"

know what i mean?

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I see the question of mentally ill people who commit capital crimes went unanswered. The difficult ones always do...

At the very least they need to be locked up for a very, very long time or, better yet, forever. They certainly shouldn't be running loose on the streets...that much is obvious. There are no pills that can cure their ills.

What God does with them when they fall under his jurisdiction is of no concern of mine.

Indeed. What's being suggested here is that such people "get into heaven for free". I wonder if another disclaimer will be forthcoming...

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