Expecting first Child

[JenniferNangel 137]

Furthermore when my great grandparents migrated to USA from hungry I don't think they did it with bad intentions they never did anything illegal to get here or when they lived their lives as USC

[f f 725]

I know I will sound insincere but I really do hope it works out.

abortions are legal in the us, granted they must be done early enough. and once you are both in the us and settled you can try again for a child.

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

Congratulations.

Lately DNA test has been a huge thing for couples with a child. Even in situations where the child wasn't emigrating with the foreign spouse.

So a child or pregnancy helps your case if they request for a DNA test. Of they dont,then it doesn't affect your case.

Good luck

[Cathi 5,771]

I hear what you are saying Cheezees however that rationale makes no sense due to the fact people have jobs, housing, cars, and a whole lot of things establish in The US or what ever country the person filing may be from and in my case I cant survive in Ghana due to fact its so hard to find work my husband cant even get a good job and he has live there and struggle all his life there.

It was still your choice. The government owes you nothing because you decided to get pregnant. If people were granted expedites because of pregnancy than many would do the same just to skip the line. How do you think others would feel if their cases were delayed because of people who choose your path? How would you feel if you were one of the people made to wait longer? Immigration is not a right.

[Joetan 18]

Imagine a man in a foreign country who is scamming someone to get a visa. It's fairly easy for him to suggest they have a child; he wouldn't have to be there for the pregnancy and then he can be dramatic and say that he NEEDS to get to the US to be with his kid. He doesn't even have to send money because he is poor, and him saying "it's so unfair" over skype makes the woman feel closer to him and even more willing to advocate that he needs to get to the US. Then he leaves the mother and his child once he sets foot on US soil.

Or, imagine a young woman in a foreign country who is scamming a man. She is so desperate to get to the US that she suggests having a kid to seem like a real relationship, and she is so desperate in fact that she is willing to be pregnant and have this kid for the visa. When the kid is born she can say "I am a mother to USC so I am important!" and then she can abandon her kid with the dad once she gets to the US.

We have seen both types of cases on this very forum.

you put a whole new spin on the way I see this issue thanks for the examples I am not the kind of person that schemes and scam my way through life so I was dum founded to think that people would be so desperate to the point they would do such a thing.

[NikLR 13,230]

Accident?? Ahhhh nope not my child. I've known my husband for 3 years he was my best friend first before I came here. We talked about our family, having children for our future. Yes America is wonderful everyone wants to live the American Dream but that doesn't mean every potential immigrant is bad or has bad intentions. Not everyone one steals ,lies ,sells themselves to get to USA. Dr is a high fraud country but that doesn't mean everyone in dr is bad either same goes for every other country including USA(sad but true)

Besides the baby me and my husband have enough proof of a bonafide marriage so I'm not even worried about that

Being with my husband aboard is not easy at all but I'm doing it because I couldn't say goodbye to him thank god for dcf that probably made my decision 100x easier plus it's super fast ?

No one said your child was an accident. I said accidents happen. Not everyone does those things either, most people don't. The reality is SOME people in the world do.

Just as you cannot make someone believe in your religion, you cannot make someone have your set of morals.

And no, not everyone wants to "live the American dream." I sure as heck had no plans in my lifetime to move to the USA, but yet here I am.

Everything I said was general, not specific to you or the country your family is from. Stop taking everything so personally. It's not about you, it's a general statement about people in the world some of whom would do anything to move to the USA for whatever reason is personal to them.

[Joetan 18]

Having a child together is a just one more piece of evidence. That sounds terrible but to USCIS a baby is just one piece of the picture. It's not the only evidence a couple can provide to prove the relationship is real. Nor is it the best evidence that can be used. That's spending time in person. The couple must include a number of other pieces of evidence for proof. I'm sure that more than one couple has been denied even though they have child(ren) together. So if USCIS doesn't think that having a child is the only evidence you need, why would they make special consideration for it? There's a saying that goes "poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine." I'm pretty sure that's more the way USCIS operates.

Let's take this a step further. If having a child together was enough to auto expedite an approval or was enough evidence of a bonafide relationship, then a lot of people would choose to do that. It would suddenly become THE way to commit fraud and then it would lose most of its weight as evidence. Because you are married and your spouse will land in America with a greencard, you should have to have way more proof than a child to show your relationship is legit. Shoot, because I went the K-1 route, I get to prove my relationship is legit three times (in country, AOS, and ROC) compared to Mona Lisa who will only have to prove it this once. So I guess I agree with the USCIS' view that a child is one small piece of the picture and shouldn't warrant any special treatment.

Who

I have a question who is asking for special treatment, who is trying to jump the line? I have read a few responds saying similar things like this that was not the question that was asked. If someone goes for there interview its not special treatment they were scheduled at the time the nvc got to their case and could give them an appointment. The question also did not state that a child would automatic allow a person to be approved for a visa I had to go back and re-read the question to see where all these responds were coming from that had nothing to do with the question

[Joetan 18]

It was still your choice. The government owes you nothing because you decided to get pregnant. If people were granted expedites because of pregnancy than many would do the same just to skip the line. How do you think others would feel if their cases were delayed because of people who choose your path? How would you feel if you were one of the people made to wait longer? Immigration is not a right

Who said government owes me anything, who said that case should be expedited because of pregnancy or someone wanted to skip the line when responding to a post read the question and understand what is being asked because no one asked for special treatment if you cant reply to the question that was asked than don't reply at all we are here to help one other I thought and your respond makes no senses and does not have anything to do with what was asked. I have seen some other post u have replied to and you missed their questions also.

[NikLR 13,230]

You didnt really ask a question in your first post to be honest

[JFH 12,190]

USCIS states the couple having a child together showing a birth certificate is strong evidence of a bonafide relationship.

Where does it say that? Where does it say on the USCIS website or forms that this is "strong evidence". The page I'm looking st says that it is one of a variety of forms of evidence. Nothing about it being "strong evidence".

[Joetan 18]

You didnt really ask a question in your first post to be honest

ok granted you may not see my question due to the fact I made statements along with the question. However my question was about the games I feel that are being played. I asked does the government really play games with people lives like that making them go and come back sending through the ringer. I asked this question because 1st I am new to this whole process, 2nd I have read many post where people have had TONS of evidence yet they were asked 3 questions most of evidence was not even looked at some were denied on spot some were told to come back in month or two just to be denied. Granted I was not a fly on the wall so I cant say what went wrong I am going by the post that I have read and the sad stories that are told and I feel that's a game. If you take the time to gather up ever scrap of evidence from beginning to current and they don't even look at it than whats the use. Mean while you have children involved in the situation and not having a fair chance to prove your cause has an affect on them also.

[Joetan 18]

ok granted you may not see my question due to the fact I made statements along with the question. However my question was about the games I feel that are being played. I asked does the government really play games with people lives like that making them go and come back sending through the ringer. I asked this question because 1st I am new to this whole process, 2nd I have read many post where people have had TONS of evidence yet they were asked 3 questions most of evidence was not even looked at some were denied on spot some were told to come back in month or two just to be denied. Granted I was not a fly on the wall so I cant say what went wrong I am going by the post that I have read and the sad stories that are told and I feel that's a game. If you take the time to gather up ever scrap of evidence from beginning to current and they don't even look at it than whats the use. Mean while you have children involved in the situation and not having a fair chance to prove your cause has an affect on them also.

What has me tripped out is some of the replies saying government does not owe me anything., I should wait in line like everyone else, no special treatment should be given because of a child and its my choice to have a child and basically I should just live with it one person even posted how abortion are legal in USA as if to say I should abort the baby than when my husband come we could try to have another one. NOOOO where in my post did I say I wanted to jump the line I never asked about expedited services, I never asked if having a child guarantee one a US visa I only asked about the games that I feel have been played with SOME people that have posted about all the evidence they had, chats, phone records, receipts, letters, plane tickets, pictures, joint accounts and ect. yet it still was not good enough. Some stated they were made to wait for hours sitting down not knowing out come just to be denied.

WHERE DID I EVER ASK FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT, QUICKER SERVICE, CHILD BEING THE KEY TO VISA.

I don't see the reason for some replies when that was not what was ask I just wanted to stick to subject some of the replies should have been kept and not posted because they made no sense at all.

Edited August 28, 2016 by Joetan

[NikLR 13,230]

No the government doesn't play games with minions like us. They have a set of rules. You follow them to get what you want. They're trying to unify your family.

Evidence presented at the interview may or may not be looked at, which is why front and side loading is encouraged at high fraud consulates. There is a reason they're called high fraud and why you need more quality evidence.

I think COs try to make sure relationships are legit and sort through the fraud. If you dont believe it, that's your prerogative.

Edited August 28, 2016 by NLR

[Joetan 18]

That's your opinion and your prerogative however stick to describing yourself I don't see myself as a minion and yes that's my prerogative

[NikLR 13,230]

That's what you took from that? That I called individual people, minions? You're the one feeling like the US government is playing games with people's lives, not me. I'm telling you they dont have the time or energy for that because in the grand scheme of over 330 million people in this country already, individuals wanting to move here aren't that important. None of us are. Dont believe me if you dont want to. My husband has worked FOR the government for the last 12 years as both military and a federal employee. I trust his opinion on the US government more than some person whos never lived here.

I'm done. Have a nice journey.

Edited August 28, 2016 by NLR