90 Day Fiance- Season 4

[Mary Lou 681]

After last night's episode, I can't. I just can't. Jorge reminds me of a domestic violence victim. She abuses him, and he's the one apologizing. Then again, he is allowing her to treat him that way. GO BACK TO RUSSIA and try again!

Chantel aka Ceair Wylie did not fess up that she was the one who lied, not Pedro aka Junior Jimeno Morel. Again, why are they not using the real names?? Makes me think their whole story was fabricated. Pedro went from "no understand" to referring to himself in 3rd person. "no body likes the Pedro because of you." The whole pre-nup discussion was absurd.

Lowo still saying he's a Nigerian prince. He thinks he can romance her and things are going to be fine. What's with the headshots of her he has all over the walls. that's supposed to make her swoon? He straight up said he was in it for the green card but oops, he fell in love. As if that justifies all the lies. And I be damned if she didn't chase his butt to Vietnam. The desperation is heartbreaking because she seems like a beautiful independent woman and she's being victimized, albeit by choice.

Azan's reasons why he loves Nicole were generic. She cares about him and has a nice smile? She said if she'd stay a week longer then he'd change and treat her the way she deserves. Um, she was there 5 weeks. Another day wouldn't have made any difference. He'd still reject her physical advances and appear emotionally void like he did when she was leaving. I did think maybe he really loved her, and maybe it's the editing, but I'm back to thinking he's just in it for the green card.

Matt, Matt, Matt. I've never seen anyone cry about a lap dance, but that stripper did look like she is best friends with the meth pipe. I mean, sure it's his 4th bachelor party, but his douchebag "friends" completely made a mockery of it.

On Happily Ever After, I literally want to have Danielle put on a 72 hour hold for a mental evaluation. Everyone else's story was blah.

I missed lastnights episode, so i will have to watch it on demand.

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

Yep, I'll reiterate what I said 2 weeks ago. Jorge is a complete loser who is so desperate for her (why we will never be able to understand) that he's apologizing. And her threats about being packed and wanting to go to the airport. I wish he had the stones to call her bluff but he got on his knees and started crying. He sees the way she is and acts, and has this unrealistic hope that she will change. I'm thinking about how she was able to get her boobs and duck lips done in Russia. I'm thinking hooking on the side while living with grandma. That explains some of her issues, no parents in the picture.

I can't believe that Chantel still hasn't told her Mommy and Daddy (that will never get old) that it was ALL her idea to lie. The prenup scene was entertaining, especially Chantel trying to explain to Pedro (in her kindergarten Spanish) what a prenup is. Then the preview shows his mother telling him not to sign anything. I guess they want the GC and a divorce settlement. Too bad she is broke.

Lowo is not even a good scammer. He admitted about the green card. But she's so desperate that nothing he does will make her cut it off. She's another one who deserves everything she gets.

In the preview for the next episode, Matt's best "friend" who disapproves of the relationship is interrogating Alla (first his family, now his friend) about why she loves him and she says that she hasn't told Matt that she loves him yet. #######? Then why are we here would have been my next question to Matt. That dude is completely strange, no wonder he is on #4. This won't be the last one.

The Danielle-Mohammed drama has become kind of boring. How many times can you watch a retarded person make the same mistake and then laugh and cry (at the same time) about it. She is another desperate one that got scammed now about 5 times. Mohammed can file the divorce first, it won't hurt his immigration. Would it?

Who paid for Danielle's stalking trip to Miami to see her "friend" Mohammed? She can't keep her lights and cable on and she has money to travel and pay for hotels? I can't believe she fell for that. Once he learns that she's in Miami, he goes to the police station "to file a report on his wife". And how does he have some many "good female friends"? Btw-where are Danielle's daughters? I think they may have died (or run away) from embarrassment and shame.

Paola has become bitchy about her modeling career. Modeling in her case will probably lead to porn, same as Anfisa. She's already posing topless. LOL Yet when she called her family in Colombia, she didn't tell them that she was posing topless, she said "lingerie". Wholesome farmer Russ can't deal with her skimpy outfits. But honestly, what did she expect coming to Oklahoma? Was she expecting Salsa clubs and Spanish speakers? Now she gets a taste of South Florida and is done with Okla. Again, another case of mis-aligned expectations. I think this is what kills most international relationships.BTW- Russ seems to have done well for himself, has a nice house and drives an X5. I think that house that probably cost 250k in OK, would cost 1.5 mil in NY.

Brett-Daya... she's still a ungrateful . First, she bitched about the flowers at the airport and whether her ring was real. Now, this bobo writes her a "rap" song and her first comment is that he mispronounced "I love you" in her language in his song. His family is douchee too towards her, they don't seem to even give her a chance.

Loren-Alexei... that wedding in Israel is turning out bad. His so called friends not coming to the wedding and they blame Loren and he doesn't even defend her. Then he storms out like a baby, we'll see next week if he even comes back or just leaves her there and stays in Israel since his family and friends "need" him so much.

[LionessDeon 2,060]

I love how Paola is already taking her top off for free. It would be one thing if it was a job she was getting paid for, but that was a photo shoot for a portfolio... at a public beach lol. It was totally disrespectful for her parents to say what they did about changing husbands is easier than changing jobs. Nothing like your parents encouraging you to upset your husband and get naked for $$. oh sorry for "lingerie" modeling

Just like when Jorge said Anfisa wants to be a "high fashion" model and for her first outfit she walks out in a bra and garter belt.

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

I love how Paola is already taking her top off for free. It would be one thing if it was a job she was getting paid for, but that was a photo shoot for a portfolio... at a public beach lol. It was totally disrespectful for her parents to say what they did about changing husbands is easier than changing jobs. Nothing like your parents encouraging you to upset your husband and get naked for $$. oh sorry for "lingerie" modeling

Just like when Jorge said Anfisa wants to be a "high fashion" model and for her first outfit she walks out in a bra and garter belt.

Yep. :rofl:

[Rebecca616 38]

The only couple I look forward to watching are Kyle and Noon. (though I think in the end they will go just to visit with her dad and family and come back so her immigration isn't jeopardized) Take a camera crew with them to Thailand, I think it'd be more interesting than the trainwreck with Azan and Nicole.

[moemac59 192]

Danielle was off the charts cra cra this week. I hate to say it but I love what a trainwreck those two are. They make for great TV.

As spineless as Jorge is, he should send Anfisa back to Russia...bye bye Felicia

Edited November 7, 2016 by moemac59

[Mary Lou 681]

I'm tired of Anfisa and her games with Jorge, he needs to grow a pair already!!! From her lip fillers, her mouth looks like the Joker's from Batman.

I'm glad Matt stood up to his friends about the stripper with the bachelor party, but it's his 4th marriage, a bachelor party?????

I don't like how his friend treats Alla, No doubt he will cause drama at their wedding.

That Lowo or Lojo dude is a major scammer, she needs to wake up and kick him to the curb!! He admitted he wanted a GC, but then adds he fell in love with her...ummm sure.

I loved what Pedro's mom was saying!! I feel bad for him but he told Chantel, he isn't trusted cause of her!! When she isn't getting her way or liking what is said, she makes that face and turns her head away, annoying lol

Holy #######!!! The Happily Ever After with the couples!!!!!!!! Melanie wanted to kick Mohameds ###!! Melanie and Loren even said they wouldnt have taken his #######! lol Everyone was appalled how he was talking. Of course Danielle was boohooing as usual. He is a nasty piece of work,

Edited November 7, 2016 by Mary Lou

[jenibaleeni 11]

Anfisa is a psycho, and Jorge added fuel to fire by giving her his password to his phone. What's up with the car he's driving? does it not have Bluetooth? It was kinda amusing when he was getting frustrated with her calling every other second. She acts the way she does because he allows her to do so. She's 20 years old, barely out of her teens. And in the previews she keys a car? oh hell no. After everything she's done I wonder what would actually be Jorge's deal breaker?

Nicole just needs to accept that she and Azan will never work. She had a 5-week vacation full of drama with a dash of romance. It'd be a shame to have them be this season's version of Mohammed and Danielle.

Matt's friend is way too involved in Matt's relationship. He has no respect for Matt or for Alla. I think it's a red flag that Alla hasn't told Matt she loves him, but she did leave her family, her home, everything she knows to come live with Matt in a small town in Kentucky. If Matt is willing to marry her and build a loveless marriage that's his decision.

Pedro's mom did not hold back. Chantel whining that his mom wouldn't speak slower so she could understand. She caused this mess and wants to complain that she's not being respected.

Narkyia really bought in to Lowo's BS seduction. He wants her to be more Nigerian and let him be in control of everything. She was like oh hell no. She's independent BUT she also chased his wannabe prince ### to Vietnam to get some answers. Can't wait till next week when she wastes a perfectly good ice cream cone on his face.

OMG! Happily Ever After had me with my jaw dropped after Mohammed said Danielle smells and needs to see a doctor before anyone has sex with her. That's a lot of dirty laundry to air on tv be it true or not. Everyone was hating on him, but Danielle isn't so innocent either. She should stick with the annulment though.

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

Anfisa is a child who likes to throw temper tantrums, to get what she wants. And to answer somebody's question earlier. I don't think Jorge has a deal-breaker. He will never send her back, unless she decides to leave herself, but she never will because she knows there is more opportunity to model (read: porn) in the US and more opportunity to find a real man (read: sugar daddy) than living in Russia with grandma. Her threats to leave are as empty as her head. And this bobo buying her an $11k ring. They went shopping 2 episodes ago and were looking at $75k and $150k rings and he buys an $11k ring? I can't wait for her reaction. I'm guessing that she'll throw it out the window. The whole phone thing is annoying. Why does she have all his logins and passwords? And now he's trying to call his client and she answers? I didn't get what was happening there. In the beginning, she deleted his Iphone and locked him out of his email, and now she tracks him but where's my iphone. My wife doesn't even have any of that.

Chantel giving him an pre-nup ultimatum 2 days before the wedding is comical since it's Mommy and Daddy that are forcing her to do it. I still don't get why a 25 year old is still under her parents' total control. I guess when your parents fully support you (pay for everything and give you an allowance), you have to do what they tell you. Time to grow up and be a little more independent princess. And why is Pedro's mother so upset over the pre-nup. I'm guessing they have American Dream fantasies and they think this document will prevent that from happening. I don't even think they know what a pre-nup is.

The Nigerian 419 scammer is trying a diversion act. He set up this whole BS romance scene so she doesn't ask too many questions about the paperwork. He got very defensive when she suggested that they go to an immigration lawyer. He wants to keep her completely out of it cause "[he] got this". I don't know what kind of scam he is running but hopefully she wakes up soon and leaves his stupid ### in Vietnam and cuts off all contact. But she seems pretty desperate to get married, even when she knows that he's a scammer.

Matt is another needy little man. Alla doesn't love him and she even told him that she may never love him when they talked, and he's says that he's ok with that. Yes, his friend's approach is not right but I think he has his buddy's best interest in mind. I would never ask her like that why she wants to get married if she doesn't love him. I think Alla is in it for a better life for her kid (and to bring her sister over), and not because she's in love with Matt. I don't think this is a total sham marriage (where she pretends to love him just to get a GC) but I don't think Alla is marrying him for the right reasons, if that makes sense.

Nicole is another train wreck. She knows that it won't work but hopes he will change. Yes, he will learn to love you and your 300lbs. I'm mixed on Azan. I sometimes think he just wants a GC but then he would not be saying that she needs to exercise. He wouldn't risk it if he just wanted to come to the US. He would just pretend that she's perfect, like Mohammed did.

Danielle seems to be realizing what everybody else has known since the first episode. But I still think that he'll con her into pulling the second annulment (if it's even real, Mohammed seems to think it's a fake). I think she still think they can be together.

Paola is becoming a bit of a . Deciding that she wants to model and moving to Miami, with or without her husband. He was forced to agree to let her move there "for a couple of months" because he can see that she's going anyway and if he wants to keep her, he better get on board. Regarding the contract they sent her, seems like a scam. They asked her to pay a fee, even though it's only $100- I thought it would be more. I assume they sign up a lot of wanna-be models to these types of contracts and $100 a pop starts to add up. My guess is that she'll not get any real model work, maybe some nude work or porn.

[cyanmavi 101]

Matt is another needy little man. Alla doesn't love him and she even told him that she may never love him when they talked, and he's says that he's ok with that. Yes, his friend's approach is not right but I think he has his buddy's best interest in mind. I would never ask her like that why she wants to get married if she doesn't love him. I think Alla is in it for a better life for her kid (and to bring her sister over), and not because she's in love with Matt. I don't think this is a total sham marriage (where she pretends to love him just to get a GC) but I don't think Alla is marrying him for the right reasons, if that makes sense.

Matt has been married three times for the right reasons and it hasn't worked out for him so maybe he is trying something new, just like America!

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

Ok, so weed was legalized in California. Maybe now Jorge can afford his Russian duck-lipped woman.

BTW- In the last episode, they showed Anfisa without the makeup several times, and it was very underwhelming.

[Mary Lou 681]

Ok, so weed was legalized in California. Maybe now Jorge can afford his Russian duck-lipped woman.

BTW- In the last episode, they showed Anfisa without the makeup several times, and it was very underwhelming.

Anfisa isn't drop dead gorgeous, she's average at best, her botox/plastic surgery ruined her looks.

[RobertM54 36]

Anfisa isn't drop dead gorgeous, she's average at best, her botox/plastic surgery ruined her looks.

Irina and I are in Kiev. Medical complete. Interview Tuesday. She says many young women are using botox. Her 28 year old best friend is encouraging her to start. Wow!

[Mary Lou 681]

Good luck on Tuesday!!

I'm kind of surprised they can afford the Botox TBH. What is your girlfriend's take on it?

[RobertM54 36]

Good luck on Tuesday!!

I'm kind of surprised they can afford the Botox TBH. What is your girlfriend's take on it?

Irina is appalled at the idea. Of course, she is marrying a guy twice her age.

Now that I think about it a little, her friend is married to a successful businessman. She is a very jealous type. Maybe this is part of what she thinks she needs to do to keep him home.