90 Day Fiance- Season 4

[AmandaBN 32]

What's with all the generalizations in this thread assuming that no man who is not desperate is attracted to "fat" women? I see couples of all shapes and sizes around me all the time. Love, affection and sexual attraction are not reserved for any particular body type, skin color, etc. I completely agree that there are some egregious mismatches on the show (I'm looking at you Danielle) but that does not mean that any foreign fiance(e) marrying a larger person is only in it for the gc.

[Boiler 45,486]

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

What's with all the generalizations in this thread assuming that no man who is not desperate is attracted to "fat" women? I see couples of all shapes and sizes around me all the time. Love, affection and sexual attraction are not reserved for any particular body type, skin color, etc. I completely agree that there are some egregious mismatches on the show (I'm looking at you Danielle) but that does not mean that any foreign fiance(e) marrying a larger person is only in it for the gc.

I think it is more that he made comments about her eating less and he seems to recoil when she shows affection. I think of a couple I've followed for a while https://www.youtube.com/user/glowpinkstah/featured and they are pretty different body shape wise but definitely in love.

The things that make this different to me are that Nicole seems to be chasing this man and doesn't have too much common sense. A mother just can't up and leave her small child to go to a foreign country to spend time with a man she's never met before. It is dangerous and ill advised (what if it didn't go well, what would she do for the remaining time?). What's his face (I'm sticking to it) doesn't seem perturbed that Nicole, who very likely would have his children in a genuine relationship, isn't exactly prime mothering stock. Just a lot of red flags and it just doesn't feel genuine.

Would she have even gone to see him without the camera crew or a friend to tag along? I don't know, but I sure hope not.

Edited September 29, 2016 by N-o-l-a

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

I was quite shocked that Nicole went to meet his family, who seem at least moderately religious, in shorts way above the knee and a lot of skin showing. Even without knowing a lot about the culture, you'd thing she'd at least have worn long pants and maybe a shawl/ long sleeved shirt, out of respect.

[berber_wife 90]

Whether Azan is scamming or not, Nicole has been so disrespectful to the culture. I mean, whining about the different food? Only being interested in the fries on top of the tagine? The thing is, Moroccan food is actually not spicy-hot. It's just very flavorful. My dad is someone who won't even try Indian or Thai, but he'll happily scarf up my husband's tagine. And I will admit that I made some blunders with my husband as far as physical affection in the early days, but when he said something, I stopped, filed it in my mind as "not culturally appropriate" and didn't whine and take it personally. Nicole is such an ugly American.

Speaking of disrespect, I moved from Team Chantel to Team Pedro when she was backing that train up against other guys in front of him. And her plan makes no sense. What if a family friend watches "90 Day Fiancée" and calls up her family? Plus, the clips will be on YouTube forever.

Anafisa makes me laugh. I don't feel sorry for Jorge because it seems women are only of value to him if they can cook/clean or are "hot."

Matt's friend Patrick is way too involved in policing Matt's love life. And Matt needs to stand up for Alla when she's getting the third degree.

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

Speaking of disrespect, I moved from Team Chantel to Team Pedro when she was backing that train up against other guys in front of him. And her plan makes no sense. What if a family friend watches "90 Day Fiancée" and calls up her family? Plus, the clips will be on YouTube forever.

I thin the 90 days has passed for all of them, the series is not filmed "in real time". So Chantel's plan likely was that her family would fall in love with him and then she;d tell them everything, way before the wedding/ the TV series was shown. However, if I was Pedro I'd have serious doubts right about now. I agree with you, the way she danced was way inappropriate, no matter what culture.

[LionessDeon 2,060]

Nicole is just extremely young and not worldly. She cannot yet grasp the concept of things being different in other countries. She thinks every place is like USA. In fact, she keeps saying "In America....". I don't remember Azan telling her to eat less. I heard him say she should eat healthier, big difference. Someone who actually cares for you will try to get you to be healthier in various ways. He just wanted her to try something new. She's the one who said she only eats, burgers, hot dogs, and chicken.

I was very surprised she wasn't covered up more to visit his family. I wonder why he didn't request her to do so. Probably to avoid another fight with her as she would not of been able to comprehend anyway. I wouldn't say she's an ugly American, just not culturally educated at all. Something that I feel is so needed in these types of relationships. They have a long road ahead.

Chantel is not ready to be a wife... at all.

[Mary Lou 681]

I thin the 90 days has passed for all of them, the series is not filmed "in real time". So Chantel's plan likely was that her family would fall in love with him and then she;d tell them everything, way before the wedding/ the TV series was shown. However, if I was Pedro I'd have serious doubts right about now. I agree with you, the way she danced was way inappropriate, no matter what culture.

I guess we will have to wait for their seasons version of "Happily Ever After"

I dont see Nicole and Azan making it, another Danielle and Moh. Nicole was disrespectful at his parents house, with her clothing choice, and the burying her face in his shoulder like a shy 3yr old when she asked a question or they looked at her. She's very immature and whiny.

I really like Alla, and i agree with the poster that Matt needs to stop letting his friend and family treat her poorly.

Edited September 30, 2016 by Mary Lou

[Kay&Epi 53]

Has anyone seen this show, 90 day fiancé? I'm watching for the first time now and I don't know what to think about. Seems interesting but seems very sensationalized. What are your thoughts?

[Merrytooth 5,748]

Join here

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/607241-90-day-fiance-season-4/

[Kay&Epi 53]

Join here

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/607241-90-day-fiance-season-4/

Aw wow thanks for this

[Pitaya 2,577]

~Moved from K1 Process and merged with ongoing Off-Topic Thread~

Pitaya

VJ Moderation

[JFH 12,190]

I love this car crash of a show but it's starting to get too ridiculous even for me.

I have always had issues with TLC portraying the K-1 visa as a "try before you buy" arrangement. They don't have 90 days to decide if they want to get married or not. They have 90 days to organise a legal wedding. The deciding should be done before the I-129F is filed.

Jorge apparently has a criminal record that Anfisa doesn't know about. Why doesn't she? Was that not addressed in her interview at least? My husband has a criminal record and has done prison time. He told me all about it very early in our relationship. I have read all the documents and I'm fully aware of it. I even sent a copy of the paperwork with our I-130 and signed the top right of each copied page so that USCIS could see that I was fully aware. We also addressed this issue in our covering letter. They would have run a background check on Jorge. Why hasn't he told the woman he intends to marry?

Nicole and Azan. I see couples like that on visa forums all the time. By that I mean couples who claim to have been talking "constantly" for months but know nothing about each other. Take the food, for example. He seemed shocked that she doesn't eat vegetables and has a very poor diet. During their months of talking did they ever discuss favourite foods, what they just ate for dinner, and so on? It was one of the first things my husband and I talked about in getting to know each other. The same with fitness. He's obviously very much into fitness so did they ever talk about exercise? It seems to be his biggest hobby. How could he be surprised by her lifestyle when they finally meet if they have been talking "constantly" for months?

I found it very odd when Alla arrived and Matt had no food in the house (but he's a man who until that point was living on his own and probably ordered in for the most part or ate at diners and probably didn't ever shop for groceries) but she referred to the house as "Matt's house" and he referred to it as "my house". It's their house now. She lives there. She's almost his wife. I haven't moved to my husband yet but our apartment has been "our apartment" since we became serious and decided to spend the rest of our lives together.

And every season we have the work issue. Fiances arriving from various places with ideas of the work they want to do. There is a wannabe model in every series. This time Anfisa, last time Paola, before that Cassia and before that Kirlyam. But they choose the very visa type that doesn't allow them to work for several months! I've never been a fan of a K-1 and I wonder why anyone with a career would even consider it especially now that we are seeing CR-1s being completed in less than 10 months. But why all the whining when they chose this route?

Edited October 3, 2016 by JFH

[Kay&Epi 53]

Chantelle's storyline makes me cringe. I learned the hard not to lie about anything but to lie about the visa is making me scream internally. I told my family the truth from the beginning of my relationship. My mother still isn't on board but at least they know. It's gonna be a lot worse when they find out.

Edit: this whole show is cringeworthy but I can't stop watching.

It's also frustrating how this process is portrayed.

Edited October 3, 2016 by Kay&Epi

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Most seasons they have all gotten married , this one I wonder if half of them will get that far.