90 Day Fiance- Season 4

[Eric-Pris 1,604]

Alla had to compromise her dream wedding on the beach because Matt was already married at the beach, and his family couldn't afford to make the trip. She could have had a beach wedding with just her and Matt and Max, and then had another ceremony/reception back in KY. She must really love Matt to tolerate his overbearing family.

Or she really wants to live in the US (it was her dream "since being a little girl in Ukraine") and she's already talking about her sister coming (for the wedding... yeah right. She has a plan.

[moemac59 192]

It's amazing how quickly this entertaining thread devolved into shaming women for not being the proper weight and not adhering to people's ideals of beauty. To the people slamming Nicole for her weight - just stop. Seriously. To the people slamming Anfisa for her looks - she is 20! Do you know how heartbreaking it is for a 20yr old to be so upset by how she looks that she went through all that plastic surgery? This is not someone to be mocked, but someone who I hope finds therapy. Yes, she is likely gold digging - but that is no cause to berate her because she isn't as pretty as she should be. Judge people on their actions and on their character - not their looks.

I don't mean to be unkind but If you don't like what we are saying about the show or the people on it then you have a choice not to visit this topic but please do not preach to us about what we are saying/writing. It's reality TV and when people sign up for that then they are open to all kinds of criticism. Nola is right, if these people were posting on VJ then these kinds of comments would not fly.

[moemac59 192]

Jorge is a tool. He's just needy and desperate. Anfisa is a narcissistic gold-digger, and pretty much worthless as a wife. But at least she's honest. She told him right to his face that she is only with him because he can buy her things. She could not have been any clearer. And his reply was asking how he can make her happy. If that were most of us in his place, we would leave her sitting there in that restaurant. So then he asked her a very telling question, that if something happened to him and he couldn't work and buy her those things, she would leave him. And again, she pretty much confirmed that she would. The next episode preview shows him begging her not to leave. Again, what a tool!

Danielle is the most deperate person that I have ever seen. I would have bet the farm that she would pull the annulment. Probably better for her anyway, cheaper. She can't keep the lights on, how is she going to pay for an annulment? And she's still clinging to the idea that they can be together. He even canvinces her that they can be "friends". But the moment she pulled the annulment, she will never see him again. And while pulling the annulment, she didn't fule a divorce thinking they could be together. My guess is that he will file first. She'll only see him on "social media", until he blocks her. And at the end, they showed how next week she goes to Miami to visit her friend and he won't take car calls and threatened to file a restraining order if she keeps harassing him. And at the end, she says in typical Danielle fashion.... "he lied" :rofl:

I know why, but they choose these desperate, needs, moronic people. I guess crazy=ratings.

Crazy totally=ratings. I can't stand that grifter Anfisa. Her personality just angers me. She is a spoiled child who looks like a porn star. She needs to stop with the fillers and lip injections.

OMG Danielle is a complete loon. I have no sympathy for her and her crocodile tears.

This show is like a bad car accident that you keep want to rubbernecking at.

[Boiler 44,943]

I don't mean to be unkind but If you don't like what we are saying about the show or the people on it then you have a choice not to visit this topic but please do not preach to us about what we are saying/writing. It's reality TV and when people sign up for that then they are open to all kinds of criticism. Nola is right, if these people were posting on VJ then these kinds of comments would not fly.

They probably would be deleted, maybe a thread ban.

[Mary Lou 681]

I'm a bit confused about Chantel and Pedro. I saw online that those are not their real names. Do they use fake names for this show?

It's also weird how both Chantel and her brother refer to their parents as "mommy and daddy." Her brother assumes Pedro put her up to lying, and it doesn't seem that Chantel was going to fess up that it was her idea all along.

I don't see in any fashion or form how Nicole and Azan will ever work out. The cultural and religious differences are too much, and neither can seem to find common ground. If they've had this many issues thus far I can't imagine how they will handle any issues that comes along with marriage. She's just so immature...Seeing how he is on the show and how his Twitter page is, I can't believe it's really him on Twitter. He doesn't strike me as saying things like "haters gonna hate."

Jorge acted like he was all hurt when Anfisa straight up told him her true intentions. I liked her honesty and the way she threw it back at him when she asked if he'd still like her if she were fat and ugly. I can't fault her for actually coming clean about being a gold-digger. Jorge is getting what he deserves if she chooses to stay with her.

Alla had to compromise her dream wedding on the beach because Matt was already married at the beach, and his family couldn't afford to make the trip. She could have had a beach wedding with just her and Matt and Max, and then had another ceremony/reception back in KY. She must really love Matt to tolerate his overbearing family.

I had assumed the names they tell us, were their real names? Interesting that you read that about Chantel and Pedro.

Alla seems genuine to me, then again who knows, but if her sister is her only family i can understand why she wants her at the wedding. The chance of her sister getting a visa.....zero to none.

[B&Z 201]

It seemed pretty clear to me that Matt and his mom didn't actually tell Alla the reason why they were steering her away from a beach wedding. They kept talking about how his third wedding had been on the beach in Cancun TO THE CAMERAS, but I never saw them tell Alla. I bet if Alla had known that, she would have dropped the idea on her own.

I haven't seen anything about Chantel and Pedro's names not being real...I did see conjecture about Jorge's name, though, because he apparently is going by "Andrew Lopez" on social media sites.

[AlinaB 43]

I don't mean to be unkind but If you don't like what we are saying about the show or the people on it then you have a choice not to visit this topic but please do not preach to us about what we are saying/writing. It's reality TV and when people sign up for that then they are open to all kinds of criticism. Nola is right, if these people were posting on VJ then these kinds of comments would not fly.

Don't worry - this isn't an unkind thing to say. Everyone has their opinions. I am secure in who I am, random strangers online don't upset me when they differ from my point of view. I think your response (and others) is saddening and really reflects the things I do not like about our society or reality TV. It's not the people on TV so much as it is the producers catering to the viewers. They use all sorts of methods to get people show their worst and most vulnerable sides. I would never be on reality TV for a variety of reasons, and I think that most people who do are looking for something they don't need. And of course in our world - we all love a train wreck.

I stand my ground. You don't criticize people for how they look. No one asks for this, reality TV or not. And Anfisa is a CHILD. She is 20. Someone convinced that poor child that she was not pretty enough and that she needed all of that to find a man or love or money - for whatever reason. Do I think she is a gold digger - absolutely. Does this change the fact that she was a brain washed child only a short time ago, no.

This show is crazy and highlights a lot of terrible people- but I don't need to call them fat or ugly. And I do have a choice to visit this topic, as well as to comment my own opinion. People don't have to agree with each other on threads - what a boring and unhelpful forum this would be.

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

I stand my ground. You don't criticize people for how they look. No one asks for this, reality TV or not. And Anfisa is a CHILD. She is 20. Someone convinced that poor child that she was not pretty enough and that she needed all of that to find a man or love or money - for whatever reason.

She is not a child, neither legally nor biologically. If she were, she wouldn't be able to consent to be on TV without parental permission. She is adult enough to be a gold digger, go after foreign men, and move to a foreign country. Lots of women are married and have children of their own at that age. She might be vapid and immature, but a child she is not.

I will disagree about the criticizing, especially when it comes to Anfisa. If ever there is a time to comment on appearances it would be about someone wants a career as a model, which is almost solely based on their appearance.

Edited October 28, 2016 by N-o-l-a

[Mary Lou 681]

It seemed pretty clear to me that Matt and his mom didn't actually tell Alla the reason why they were steering her away from a beach wedding. They kept talking about how his third wedding had been on the beach in Cancun TO THE CAMERAS, but I never saw them tell Alla. I bet if Alla had known that, she would have dropped the idea on her own.

I haven't seen anything about Chantel and Pedro's names not being real...I did see conjecture about Jorge's name, though, because he apparently is going by "Andrew Lopez" on social media sites.

[Mary Lou 681]

She is not a child, neither legally nor biologically. If she were, she wouldn't be able to consent to be on TV without parental permission. She is adult enough to be a gold digger, go after foreign men, and move to a foreign country. Lots of women are married and have children of their own at that age. She might be vapid and immature, but a child she is not.

I will disagree about the criticizing, especially when it comes to Anfisa. If ever there is a time to comment on appearances it would be about someone wants a career as a model, which is almost solely based on their appearance.

I highly doubt Anfisa felt so ugly that she was convinced to have plastic surgery. From the results on her face, i would bet she was much better looking then, compared to how she looks now. She put herself out there, shes a shallow person who only cares about money and more money and the things money can buy. Which she admits too.

[JeanLovesTracy 10]

I agree with previous posters, if (0 day would follow me and my fiancé the audience would die from boredom, which is perfectly fine by me bc the only drama I like is on the screen. As to commenting on peoples looks and behavior, that is why I follow this thread. You can see by my pic I am an average looking guy, but I am very confident in myself and my fiancé thinks I am a 10, so therefore I care nothing what random keyboard warriors think of my appearance or behavior and yes people do like to watch train wrecks ...soo on that note....All Aboard

[B&Z 201]

I really hope Narkyia's family was watching last night's episode where Lowo straight up said he's in it for the green card!!! Narkyia needs a reality check on that loser. Oh, but he claims he "fell in love with her at the end of the day". YEAH, RIGHT!

[jenibaleeni 11]

After last night's episode, I can't. I just can't. Jorge reminds me of a domestic violence victim. She abuses him, and he's the one apologizing. Then again, he is allowing her to treat him that way. GO BACK TO RUSSIA and try again!

Chantel aka Ceair Wylie did not fess up that she was the one who lied, not Pedro aka Junior Jimeno Morel. Again, why are they not using the real names?? Makes me think their whole story was fabricated. Pedro went from "no understand" to referring to himself in 3rd person. "no body likes the Pedro because of you." The whole pre-nup discussion was absurd.

Lowo still saying he's a Nigerian prince. He thinks he can romance her and things are going to be fine. What's with the headshots of her he has all over the walls. that's supposed to make her swoon? He straight up said he was in it for the green card but oops, he fell in love. As if that justifies all the lies. And I be damned if she didn't chase his butt to Vietnam. The desperation is heartbreaking because she seems like a beautiful independent woman and she's being victimized, albeit by choice.

Azan's reasons why he loves Nicole were generic. She cares about him and has a nice smile? She said if she'd stay a week longer then he'd change and treat her the way she deserves. Um, she was there 5 weeks. Another day wouldn't have made any difference. He'd still reject her physical advances and appear emotionally void like he did when she was leaving. I did think maybe he really loved her, and maybe it's the editing, but I'm back to thinking he's just in it for the green card.

Matt, Matt, Matt. I've never seen anyone cry about a lap dance, but that stripper did look like she is best friends with the meth pipe. I mean, sure it's his 4th bachelor party, but his douchebag "friends" completely made a mockery of it.

On Happily Ever After, I literally want to have Danielle put on a 72 hour hold for a mental evaluation. Everyone else's story was blah.

[HoussemAnna 20]

Sadly others may make opinions of real foreign relationships based from these "reality" shows. I already had hard enough time before this mess came out

[Lemonslice 4,715]

I have often thought that there should be a Hall of fame of the "disasters" - but then it would not work. I know I have a couple usernames in mind.

One today...