Walmart is being subsidized by taxpayers (and no I'm not talking about employees on benefits)

[lostinblue 1,989]

no, the exactly wasn't for you. walmart needs to step up security measures that prevent the crime of shoplifting from occurring in the first place.

Usual liberal speak ... thugs are stealing stores blind and it is the stores fault. the theft occurred.

[John Miller 761]

Like I said.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

no, the exactly wasn't for you. walmart needs to step up security measures that prevent the crime of shoplifting from occurring in the first place.

Well miss minority report , it's not a crime until they do it.

[Rob L 3,811]

Those Walmart aisles are so crammed with #######, I dont think could find anything I needed to shoplift.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Usual liberal speak ... thugs are stealing stores blind and it is the stores fault. the theft occurred.

lib, i used to work retail for a decent sized corp, no where near walmart's size, and they paid for security cameras and black ceiling panels but never actually recorded anything. people figured it out, employees talked and when theft of high dollar floor items increased - corporate decided to bring those items up close to checkout, so cashiers could keep an eye out. which turned into management needing to be very watchful of the cashiers. anyway, if the cameras had been functional in the first place, we wouldn't have become a hot spot for theft. we had an engine rolled right out of the front of the store one time, 1500 bucks. another, an angry customer chucked an old battery through the front windows almost hitting a toddler. a reasonable deterrent to these things would have been functioning cameras. not police presence. the corporation had stores in dc, maryland, that had functioning cameras and used armored security for deposits etc, but it chose to take a risk and cut our store's security. their decision and it was their loss, in theft. which of course can be written off come tax time, up to a certain amount. but that's another issue.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Well miss minority report , it's not a crime until they do it.

testy testy, miss minority report huh. well mr mud pile, it all comes down to what you consider the responsibility of the business and what you consider the responsibility of public tax dollars. i don't really care to have my tax dollars used to protect walmart's profits, when they're not expected to protect their profits first and foremost.

hasn't everyone been in a crowded walmart on the middle of a saturday and wondered why there are only seven out of twenty five check-out lanes open?

[John Miller 761]

hasn't everyone been in a crowded walmart on the middle of a saturday and wondered why there are only seven out of twenty five check-out lanes open?

I heard that Walmart is working up a new slogan.

Walmart: Always Long Lines. Always.

But seriously, just as soon as they can figure out how to staff the other registers on somebody else's dime, they will have them opened.

Edited August 18, 2016 by John Miller

[Teddy B 17,252]

I heard that Walmart is working up a new slogan.

Walmart: Always Long Lines. Always.

But seriously, just as soon as they can figure out how to staff the other registers on somebody else's dime, they will have them opened.

A good amount of their workforce is already partially subsidized by govco because they pay so little. But hey look at those low prices!

[John Miller 761]

A good amount of their workforce is already partially subsidized by govco because they pay so little. But hey look at those low prices!

When you think about it, Walmart is really being treated unfairly having to pay their staff anything at all. They should collect money from people for the privilege of working there.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

testy testy, miss minority report huh. well mr mud pile, it all comes down to what you consider the responsibility of the business and what you consider the responsibility of public tax dollars. i don't really care to have my tax dollars used to protect walmart's profits, when they're not expected to protect their profits first and foremost.

hasn't everyone been in a crowded walmart on the middle of a saturday and wondered why there are only seven out of twenty five check-out lanes open?

I never called you testy. Reported

[smilesammich 10,727]

I never called you testy. Reported

don't you get instant mod editing with your platinum package?

[Rob L 3,811]

I never called you testy. Reported

I think testy and mudpile are good handles

[Teddy B 17,252]

don't you get instant mod editing with your platinum package?

My titanium package came with a free mod reach around.

[yuna628 9,687]

It's about presence not about someone cowering behind a monitor. If security was present, then maybe crime would be deterred that way. It's how other large retailers such as Target or Costco do it. You see the security personnel when you walk into the store and you see the security personnel when strolling through the store. They're present. And the retailer pays for them. Coincidentally, these stores do not have to rely as heavily on taxpayer funded police. But good to know that Walmart has someone look at a monitor.

TBH I never got such claims about Costco and Target. Yes I do agree they tend to build these in more affluent areas where there is less crime around I guess. I know someone that used to work in a Costco though, and thefts usually seemed to happen in the eyewear department (something small and very costly to smuggle in a purse) rather than the big bulk items they sell. Employees though would get in trouble if they were so busy at the time and failed to notice the theft even if the giant camera was sitting there observing the theft happen. Still Costco does have the added bonus of observers up in the front that check the items in the cart and customers need membership fees. The one Target I know (attached to a mall.. so there is heavy security there) doesn't have much employee presence at all. But you know.. even the KMart, which is in an area so bad you should not hang around there unless in dire emergency doesn't tend to have WM's problems.

It’s not unusual for the department to send a van to transport all the criminals Ross arrests at this Walmart. The call log on the store stretches 126 pages, documenting more than 5,000 trips over the past five years. Last year police were called to the store and three other Tulsa Walmarts just under 2,000 times. By comparison, they were called to the city’s four Target stores about 300 times. Most of the calls to the northeast Supercenter were for shoplifting, but there’s no shortage of more serious crimes, including five armed robberies so far this year, a murder suspect who killed himself with a gunshot to the head in the parking lot last year, and, in 2014, a group of men who got into a parking lot shootout that killed one and seriously injured two others...

It seems to be a very efficient use of the officers time . Be right there where the crime is .If an officer was not on duty perhaps you would have two to five fold increase in crime .???.. They must be putting them in the high crime areas .. I have never seen a officer on duty at a walmart near me .. There are stores that I know of that closed down because of the shoplifting pressure..

From Trumps speech in Milwaukee

There is no compassion in tolerating lawless conduct. Crime and violence is an attack on the poor, and will never be accepted in a Trump Administration.

The narrative that has been pushed aggressively for years now by our current Administration, and pushed by my opponent Hillary Clinton, is a false one. The problem in our poorest communities is not that there are too many police, the problem is that there are not enough police.

More law enforcement, more community engagement, more effective policing is what our country needs.

You have no idea what this article is talking about and have never seen the cops at a Wal-mart before? I live by two Wallyworld hell-holes. At the first store, there is repeated prostitution and drug deals in the parking lot. There has been a couple of murders, and a police-involved shooting which resulted in the death of a shoplifting crack addict with a warrant out for their arrest in front of a large gaggle of witnesses. Cops are routinely there but no one feels much safer. You can't even get gas at the station in the parking lot without being harassed by beggars and addicts and someone even recently recorded an incident between two men who decided to have a good ol' fashioned brawl over a toothless prostitute. A few months ago a young teenager was kidnapped and raped on the property. It is extremely rare that we ever go to this Wal-mart, it is too dangerous.

At the second location it is generally considered safer. But take this with a grain of salt. A few weeks ago a woman was robbed at gunpoint. They allow homeless and addicts to camp in the parking lot, and it is a favorite place for people to OD. So much so, that one remained dead for a few weeks, mysteriously escaping the eye of any security until a drunk driver crashed through the utility pond fence and sunk. The police came for that but failed to notice the ''abandoned'' vehicle in the lot within walking distance. The repair crew for the fence noticed though.. the stench was unreal. 100 degree heat doesn't do well for dead bodies. Shoplifting is a severe problem at this store. They used to have ''greeters'' posted even when the article claims they were removed. These greeters were generally ladies in their 80s on motorized scooters and did not care to greet anyone nor do they check anyone. The one that was able to stand actually used a walker. The store is so hot though with the cutback on power (the lights are also extremely dim) that one of them passed out. Eventually one of these ladies was assaulted by a shoplifter with a knife - and that was the last time I've seen any of them. They seem to have replaced the greeters with a big beefcake lad, but he does not say or do anything with anyone unless his frat boy friends show up and then he vanishes leaving the store wide open. As always there is only two people on any register and the lines are severe. There is no one at the jewelry counter anymore and rarely anyone in the gun area! They keep many electronics in a locked case (good luck finding someone to get those for you) but you can walk out of the store with a machete. They have low hiring standards, because repeatedly they have hired rapists, including one who was selling drugs on the side in the parking lot, and another who decided to have fun times with kids. Also don't think about using credit cards there. They have had repeat skimmer problems. They don't have cops posted outside this one, though once something happened so bad they did post one right in the doorway for exactly one day (that was the flasher robbery).

Which one of these buildings do you feel safe enough to conduct your shopping in? Because I certainly don't think Wal-mart is even remotely interested in doing a thing. There was that time a group of kids were chasing a raccoon on the property - there seemed to be some panic... can't have kids being bit by rabid raccoons on the property.. but anything else goes.

I like to contrast this with hardware mega chains like Lowes and HD. There's always people everywhere, they hire a retired vet to greet and check people going in and out, they have their own security, and there are always people at the tills.

I don't think ASDAs (the UK Walmarts) have this issue. Shopping there was like a dream. A gleamingly clean place, filled with friendly staff, plenty of friendly security. US could learn something from that.

I give up, they don't get the concept of prevention.

Prevention has never been a republican platform. ;-)

testy testy, miss minority report huh. well mr mud pile, it all comes down to what you consider the responsibility of the business and what you consider the responsibility of public tax dollars. i don't really care to have my tax dollars used to protect walmart's profits, when they're not expected to protect their profits first and foremost.

hasn't everyone been in a crowded walmart on the middle of a saturday and wondered why there are only seven out of twenty five check-out lanes open?

Seven?! Never. There is no such thing as seven lanes on any day of the week! I don't even know why all those lanes are there taking up space, if they removed them they could cram in more junk!