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as a Green Card holder, she also needs a valid passport to get in USA. and she doesnt have one because apparently she is not Spanish citizen any more neither american. In my opinion this has happened for any information that by mistake she told to the consular officer and the main mistake was to accept a visa to Spain being citizen. Maybe it meas something in those terms.

based on what you say and reading the page of Ministerio de Justicia de España She only can loos her spanish citizenship if she resign voluntarily or has a new citizenship. and this hasn´t happened.

she has to go to this ministry to start the process and correct this mistake and find any certification of their birth. because according to your post she is not US citizen.

This link could be helpful to star the process and correct this mistake.

http://www.mjusticia.gob.es/cs/Satellite/Portal/es/areas-tematicas/nacionalidad/nacionalidad/como-pierde-nacionalidad

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i found another information on how to recover her nationality

You shoud check it out thee are a lot if information for an start up. I dont know if you already checked. Is in spanish

http://www.mjusticia.gob.es/cs/Satellite/Portal/es/areas-tematicas/nacionalidad/nacionalidad/como-recupera-nacionalidad

its about how recover your nacionality, she should go to the Registro Cilvil

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I had to drive her to the Spanish consulate twice and they gave her something giving her a 1 way trip into Spain. I'm not sure what it was, but they were not going to give it to her until she had a plane ticket going to Spain. They said it was only good going into Spain so she could fix her passport in Spain. She has been out of the country for over 30 years and over the years there have been a lot of changes and I think at one point she was suppose to submit something in order to keep her citizenship. I work with someone from Sweden that said Sweden did the same thing. She said everyone had one year to renew their citizenship or people lost it. She said a lot of people lost their Swedish citizenship. My mom can not leave Spain without a passport. She can not get a passport because she is not a citizen of any country. My mom was born in Spain and lived her entire life in Spain until her 30s when she moved to Texas with my dad. They divorced in the 80s and she has been a green card holder the entire time. I'm not sure what she used to get into Spain, but it was issued by the Spanish consulate for one entrance into the country. While she was there she found out that she is no longer a citizen of Spain even though she has a Spanish birth certificate from Zaragoza, Spain and an expired Spanish passport.

As someone from Sweden that is simply not true. I have been out of Sweden for greater than a year and I will never lose my citizenship due to not "renewing" it. There is more to the story

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It sounds like they gave her travel documents to get her back into Spain and to renew her passport there. Now why would they do that if she wasn't a citizen they wouldn't have.

Either someone misspoke or someone misunderstood. Do not go by what someone told you about so and so about another country.

Have your mother get a copy of her birth certificate and apply for a passport. See what they say then.


Oh and since you're trying to figure out petitioning her she would need her birth certificate and Passport for the visa to be put in.

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~~Moved to Europe and Eurasia, from Bringing Family Members of USC - As the OP's mother is already a PR and needs help getting proof of her citizenship from Spain.~~

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A quck google will find the basics of Spanish citizenship, she just needs to obtain a Spanish passport.

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As someone from Sweden that is simply not true. I have been out of Sweden for greater than a year and I will never lose my citizenship due to not "renewing" it. There is more to the story

I think there was a time after Sweden allowed dual citizenship that if you had acquired let's say American citizenship and had lost your Swedish citizenship that you could apply to reacquire the Swedish, but that is off the top of my head based on what Denmark has done recently.

OP- I think someone in the passport office in Spain might have thought your mother was an American citizen already.

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I had to drive her to the Spanish consulate twice and they gave her something giving her a 1 way trip into Spain. I'm not sure what it was, but they were not going to give it to her until she had a plane ticket going to Spain. They said it was only good going into Spain so she could fix her passport in Spain. She has been out of the country for over 30 years and over the years there have been a lot of changes and I think at one point she was suppose to submit something in order to keep her citizenship. I work with someone from Sweden that said Sweden did the same thing. She said everyone had one year to renew their citizenship or people lost it. She said a lot of people lost their Swedish citizenship. My mom can not leave Spain without a passport. She can not get a passport because she is not a citizen of any country. My mom was born in Spain and lived her entire life in Spain until her 30s when she moved to Texas with my dad. They divorced in the 80s and she has been a green card holder the entire time. I'm not sure what she used to get into Spain, but it was issued by the Spanish consulate for one entrance into the country. While she was there she found out that she is no longer a citizen of Spain even though she has a Spanish birth certificate from Zaragoza, Spain and an expired Spanish passport.

She might have lost her passport but not her nationality. I agree with other vj surfers. She is a Spaniard citizen.

If she is in Spain, what I would do is the following:

1. Get an updated birth certificate there in Spain

2. Go with it and her expired passport (and if she has her expired DNI - ID card- I would bring it too) to the Police Documents Branch (see links below)

3. Apply for a new passport

The Spanish law must guarantee her nationality under any circumstances.

Check out these useful links

http://www.mjusticia.gob.es/cs/Satellite/Portal/es/areas-tematicas/nacionalidad/nacionalidad/como-adquiere-nacionalidad

http://www.policia.es/documentacion/documentacion.html

I am totally sure there must a be way to work things out!

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