House OKs timetable for troops in Iraq

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A sharply divided House voted Friday to order President Bush to bring combat troops home from Iraq next year, a victory for Democrats in an epic war-powers struggle and Congress' boldest challenge yet to the administration's policy.

Ignoring a White House veto threat, lawmakers voted 218-212, mostly along party lines, for a binding war spending bill requiring that combat operations cease before September 2008, or earlier if the Iraqi government does not meet certain requirements. Democrats said it was time to heed the mandate of their election sweep last November, which gave them control of Congress.

"The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of this war," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif. "The American people see the reality of the war, the president does not."

The vote, echoing clashes between lawmakers and the White House over the Vietnam War four decades ago, pushed the Democratic-led Congress a step closer to a constitutional collision with the wartime commander in chief. Bush has insisted that lawmakers allow more time for his strategy of sending nearly 30,000 additional troops to Iraq to work.

The roll call also marked a triumph for Pelosi., who labored in recent days to bring together a Democratic caucus deeply divided over the war. Some of the party's more liberal members voted against the bill because they said it would not end the war immediately, while more conservative Democrats said they were reluctant to take away flexibility from generals in the field.

Republicans were almost completely unified in their fight against the bill, which they said was tantamount to admitting failure in Iraq.

"The stakes in Iraq are too high and the sacrifices made by our military personnel and their families too great to be content with anything but success," said Republican Whip Roy Blunt (news, bio, voting record), R-Mo.

Voting for the bill were 216 Democrats and two Republicans — Wayne Gilchrest (news, bio, voting record) of Maryland and Walter Jones (news, bio, voting record) of North Carolina. Of the 212 members who opposed the bill, 198 were Republicans and 14 were Democrats.

The bill marks the first time Congress has used its budget power to try to end the war, now in its fifth year, by attaching the withdrawal requirements to a bill providing $124 billion to finance military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan for the rest of this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070323/ap_on_...fT.j.vzAUaMwfIE

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I think there should be a new section where this guy Steven and Jinky can post his liberal effluvuim, separate from the rest of the "off-topic" section. That way, those of us who would rather not be assaulted by whatever stream of propaganda he's currently pushing don't have to look at all the titles

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

"The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of this war," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "The American people see the reality of the war, the president does not."

Ain't that the fcuking truth.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think there should be a new section where this guy Steven and Jinky can post his liberal effluvuim, separate from the rest of the "off-topic" section. That way, those of us who would rather not be assaulted by whatever stream of propaganda he's currently pushing don't have to look at all the titles

You may find yourself in the 30% minority on that one

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I think there should be a new section where this guy Steven and Jinky can post his liberal effluvuim, separate from the rest of the "off-topic" section. That way, those of us who would rather not be assaulted by whatever stream of propaganda he's currently pushing don't have to look at all the titles

Over here at the liberal propaganda institute we're doing our best to infiltrate this immigration forum to brainwash fine Americans such as yourself into submitting your will to us. Resistance is futile. Just PM me your address and I'll send you your Communist Party membership card.

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I think there should be a new section where this guy Steven and Jinky can post his liberal effluvuim, separate from the rest of the "off-topic" section. That way, those of us who would rather not be assaulted by whatever stream of propaganda he's currently pushing don't have to look at all the titles

You may find yourself in the 30% minority on that one

I agree only with the fact that they are copied articles. Does anyone have their own opinions or must they cut and paste someone else's ideas trying to cause a stir. solamentemiyti, feel free to cut and paste your own articles.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

From Wikiality, the Truthiness Encyclopedia...

Liberal propaganda is basically anything that goes against true Americans, such as The Greatest President-EVER! and his fellow Republicans. This propaganda is spread in many ways, be it any T.V. news station besides Fox News (Especially the Daily Show, which is based purely on facts, and not at all on trushiness), the NY Times (which is owned and run by bears, a well-known fact), and even in schools where "liberal" (see communist) professers spread their anti-Bush (anti-America) agenda. Liberal propaganda is a threat to Republicans, and therefore a threat to America.

What is Liberal Propaganda?

Liberal propaganda consists entirely of what they call "facts." You know, things that exist in "reality" but contain no truthiness whatsoever.

Notable Liberal Propaganda

The existence of races

The existence of trees

The existence of The Democratic Party

There is no Secret Plan

Global Warming

Stephen Colbert being French

The 2000 election being rigged

gravity

The theory of evolution

pi

http://www.wikiality.com/Liberal_Propaganda

[Heracles 417]

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't think anyone's ideas are being copied - the article as presented is stating the outcome of the vote. No opinions were given.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I think there should be a new section where this guy Steven and Jinky can post his liberal effluvuim, separate from the rest of the "off-topic" section. That way, those of us who would rather not be assaulted by whatever stream of propaganda he's currently pushing don't have to look at all the titles

You may find yourself in the 30% minority on that one

I agree only with the fact that they are copied articles. Does anyone have their own opinions or must they cut and paste someone else's ideas trying to cause a stir. solamentemiyti, feel free to cut and paste your own articles.

Holy sh!t! Are you giving me credit for inventing cut and paste on this forum? I think some people here suffer from myopia.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It's amazing that a factual article about the outcome of a well-anticipate vote could be construed as propaganda. That usually comes from the "editorial" side of the fence...

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[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't think anyone's ideas are being copied - the article as presented is stating the outcome of the vote. No opinions were given.

Apparantly some of us don't see any difference between editorial pieces and news reports.

[Heracles 417]

Liberal propaganda is a threat to Republicans, and therefore a threat to America.

You said it. Next your going to tell me that American liberals (which are quite different to the rest of the world's liberal) are the beacon of humanity. Prior to the 60's people looked up to America, now people laugh at America. It does not take a genius to correlate the post 60's uprise of the me, me me, pro-choice (aka me) agenda of liberals to the current state of this once great nation.

It is sad to see people fall for the song and dance of the transformed Democrat party. What JFK stood for and represented is definitely not what neo-Democrats stand for today. I mean come on now. The Democrats made corruption and economic mismanagement a core issue of their campaign. Yet, the first major spending bill they pass is filled with examples of wasting money. The bill was supposed to be for allocating money to the troops yet half of the money has gone to BS non-military related areas. So much for this "we need change" and to "stand up for financial responsibility from the government" rubbish that was used to win the mid-term elections hey..

Edited March 23, 2007 by Infidel

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

US politics (Rep & Dem) has always been to the right of much of the rest of the world - except possibly Australia