Orlando shooter's father attends Hillary Clinton rally in Kissimmee

[Teddy B 17,252]

i'll be able to watch the melt down in real time, right here where i sit!!

I think VJ and fb will be the most fun to watch.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Would he be a 'Gold Star' dad of an ISIS soldier of Islam, just doing his part to elect Killery ?.. Just wondering

Not what I had in mind, but I admire your determination.

Lib's a regular zinger factory.

As the late great Rodney Dangerfield said: "Great teacher, he really cares. About what, I have no idea."

are you confusing the kahns "with the" orlando shooter's dad now?

You know Lib, all Muslims look alike.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Would he be a 'Gold Star' dad of an ISIS soldier of Islam, just doing his part to elect Killery ?.. Just wondering

[OriZ 3,157]

me too, i'm related to some of them. for the life of me i wonder how some of them tie their own shoes in the morning.

this was sort of what i saw yesterday, old news really, except the one i saw specifically listed 'voting' along with all the other things illegals don't actually get upon crossing the border.

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can't fix stupid.

Don't know about most of it(not sure where they got the tax free business thing from lol), but in VT you do get a driver's license(and 11 other states):

http://www.ncsl.org/research/immigration/states-offering-driver-s-licenses-to-immigrants.aspx

Edited August 9, 2016 by OriZ

[smilesammich 10,727]

Don't know about most of it(not sure where they got the tax free business thing from lol), but in VT you do get a driver's license(and 11 other states):

http://www.ncsl.org/research/immigration/states-offering-driver-s-licenses-to-immigrants.aspx

what do you mean you 'don't know about most of it'? of course you do. the image doesn't talk about specifics or even exceptions for a reason. Edited August 9, 2016 by smilesammich

[OriZ 3,157]

what do you mean you 'don't know about most of it'? of course you do. the image doesn't talk about specifics or even exceptions for a reason.

Well...they only did have so much space

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

So what some of you are saying is you think the Orlando killers dad, who is very well known, just happened to get thru secret service security by chance and it was a coincidence he is sitting just feet behind the likely next president of the US.

And anyone who disagreespends is a nut.

Uh huh

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

So we have word from the Clinton camp that it wasn't pre-planned and we have word from Mateen himself that states it wasn't pre-planned. If it was pre-planned, why would they both deny it?

Here's Mateen's quote (from Libs artcile) when asked about it.

Mateen the Taliban supporter also said this about his son (also from Lib's article).

Sounds like a die hard Taliban supporter to me.

Actually you are wrong because the Taliban and ISIS are two totally different organizations, and have been fighting each other for control over territory in Afghanistan. It's ok I understand if you are not up today's modern world. Also here is a article from two months ago saying that his father supports the Afghanistan Taliban.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando-shooting-omar-mateen-father-seddique-mateen-taliban-god-punish-gays/

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

I love listening to talk radio and here in the Los Angeles area you can get alot of it and of different genres Conservative, Liberal, and in the middle. The morning show that I love to listen to has Liberal Democrat, a Conservative, and a Libertarian as the hosts, and to me it is the most informative show I listen to all day. The conservative host has actually worked on Congressional campaigns before and flat out said "Not just anybody gets to be up on stage with a candidate in the photo/tv view. The people on stage are selected based off of demographics and age. This was staged by her campaign and they probably didn't think how it would/could back fire on them like it has"

I don't think she knew he was there, but her campaign thought it would be good for her and it isn't.

[Rob L 3,811]

The thread I started about Trump winning in a landslide because he has more facebook likes than Hillary I got from one of the Trump crazies on fb. They're also running with the conspiracy excuse that if Trump loses it's because it was fixed.......and the media has it in for him. It's funny though, I usually log onto fb before I come here and whatever I see posted on fb is also posted here by the Trump cronies. The wimmin Trumpsters are the worst I think, they get downright nasty.

then you should check out one of the many Trump factions on Reddit...friggin off the hook

[lostinblue 1,989]

I love listening to talk radio and here in the Los Angeles area you can get alot of it and of different genres Conservative, Liberal, and in the middle. The morning show that I love to listen to has Liberal Democrat, a Conservative, and a Libertarian as the hosts, and to me it is the most informative show I listen to all day. The conservative host has actually worked on Congressional campaigns before and flat out said "Not just anybody gets to be up on stage with a candidate in the photo/tv view. The people on stage are selected based off of demographics and age. This was staged by her campaign and they probably didn't think how it would/could back fire on them like it has"

I don't think she knew he was there, but her campaign thought it would be good for her and it isn't.

My point exactly ... Everyone is there for a photo-op ... .. This is a slap in the face for every service person that fought the Taliban .. She gave the Taliban a platform on our national stage for all the world to see ....

[Teddy B 17,252]

Actually you are wrong because the Taliban and ISIS are two totally different organizations, and have been fighting each other for control over territory in Afghanistan. It's ok I understand if you are not up today's modern world. Also here is a article from two months ago saying that his father supports the Afghanistan Taliban.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando-shooting-omar-mateen-father-seddique-mateen-taliban-god-punish-gays/

I am not arguing the point that this man supports the Taliban in the "Durand Line Issue", I believe I admitted as much on page one with the post quoted below. Perhaps if you left out the snide remarks and concentrated more on reading comprehension, you would've known that.

Context Lib, it is important. As explained below (again from your own link), he supports the Afghan Taliban fighting the Pakistani gov't over a land dispute.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/605439-orlando-shooters-father-attends-hillary-clinton-rally-in-kissimmee/?p=8258308

I don't believe however that the elder Mateen was involved in or approved of the shootings in Orlando which his son carried out. There is no evidence that shows other wise. There is a lot of evidence that he disapproved of what his son did and would have stopped it if he knew about it.

What I am arguing is Lib's assertion that this man has no right to be at a Clinton rally and that he was invited by Clinton because of where he is sitting. Again, there is no evidence that shows that and both the Clinton camp and Mateen have denied this was the case, but even if it is true that he was invited, so what? He is a member of the DNC and is free to attend these rallies. Lib also seems to think that this proves that Hillary and the DNC support terrorism, quite absurd really. This man has not broken any laws and has every right to freely go where he wants to. Lib seems to think that the 1st amendment doesn't apply to this man because he has shown support for the Taliban. Last I checked freedom of speech, whether Lib, you or I like it or not, is a protected right under the US Constitution. It's comical how the people on this board that hold the 2nd amendment so close to their hearts are also very willing to dismiss another citizens 1st amendment rights because they don't agree with what that person is saying. This type of behavior is what flies in the face of the servicemen men and women who fight to protect our rights, not Mateen exercising his 1st amendment right.

[lostinblue 1,989]

I am not arguing the point that this man supports the Taliban in the "Durand Line Issue", I believe I admitted as much on page one with the post quoted below. Perhaps if you left out the snide remarks and concentrated more on reading comprehension, you would've known that.

I don't believe however that the elder Mateen was involved in or approved of the shootings in Orlando which his son carried out. There is no evidence that shows other wise. There is a lot of evidence that he disapproved of what his son did and would have stopped it if he knew about it.

What I am arguing is Lib's assertion that this man has no right to be at a Clinton rally and that he was invited by Clinton because of where he is sitting. Again, there is no evidence that shows that and both the Clinton camp and Mateen have denied this was the case, but even if it is true that he was invited, so what? He is a member of the DNC and is free to attend these rallies. Lib also seems to think that this proves that Hillary and the DNC support terrorism, quite absurd really. This man has not broken any laws and has every right to freely go where he wants to. Lib seems to think that the 1st amendment doesn't apply to this man because he has shown support for the Taliban. Last I checked freedom of speech, whether Lib, you or I like it or not, is a protected right under the US Constitution. It's comical how the people on this board that hold the 2nd amendment so close to their hearts are also very willing to dismiss another citizens 1st amendment rights because they don't agree with what that person is saying. This type of behavior is what flies in the face of the servicemen men and women who fight to protect our rights, not Mateen exercising his 1st amendment right.

He had every right to attend Ted ..... Killary put a known Taliban supporter on stage with her for that photo-op

While we are at it ted .... Where is this mans daughter in-law ... She help plan the attack .. . Drove the shooter to pick up ammo . Went ammo shopping together .. Was in contact with the shooter during the shooting . Never called the police about the intended attack .. ... Where is she ....??? ... Day after this mass killing .. Not a word about her .. CAIR says if you need to talk to her contact them ... She is in every way responsible. for the deaths

Charges .. What are her charges . .... Maybe after the November we will hear about that.?

[Teddy B 17,252]

He had every right to attend Ted ..... Killary put a known Taliban supporter on stage with her for that photo-op

While we are at it ted .... Where is this mans daughter in-law ... She help plan the attack .. . Drove the shooter to pick up ammo . Went ammo shopping together .. Was in contact with the shooter during the shooting . Never called the police about the intended attack .. ... Where is she ....??? ... Day after this mass killing .. Not a word about her .. CAIR says if you need to talk to her contact them ... She is in every way responsible. for the deaths

Charges .. What are her charges . .... Maybe after the November we will hear about that.?

Freedom of speech is a terrible thing, huh Lib?

As for the daughter in-law, I believe she is still being investigated for any wrongdoing.

Try not to be such a knee-jerking reactionary and focus on the facts that are known. It's scary that people like you who react without knowing own guns.

[smilesammich 10,727]

He had every right to attend Ted ..... Killary put a known Taliban supporter on stage with her for that photo-op

While we are at it ted .... Where is this mans daughter in-law ... She help plan the attack .. . Drove the shooter to pick up ammo . Went ammo shopping together .. Was in contact with the shooter during the shooting . Never called the police about the intended attack .. ... Where is she ....??? ... Day after this mass killing .. Not a word about her .. CAIR says if you need to talk to her contact them ... She is in every way responsible. for the deaths

Charges .. What are her charges . .... Maybe after the November we will hear about that.?

lib, i feel like we knew each other in a former life. is that you bottom left?