What is the purpose of the maximum 1 year out of USA limit

[Motherof2American 0]

Interesting chatting with you folks.

No I am saying that the rule is illogical.

Your kidding yourself if you think that most countries, US included don't seek to attract high income earners which are generally high taxpayers.

It is not a game, Canada requires 2 years in residence for every 5 years and they count time outside of Canada with a Canadian Spouse as resident in Canada.

You cannot say with a straight face that US immigration laws work right?

How many undocumented? Like 3% at least

Current Admin chooses not to enforce some laws.

Tourists don't pay taxes on worldwide income.

[gregcrs2 1,778]

Well then, if it's so much easier for you in Canada, you can immigrate there.

People's sense of entitilement is amazing these days.

[Lee&Ana 88]

Well then, if it's so much easier for you in Canada, you can immigrate there.

People's sense of entitilement is amazing these days.

My thoughts exactly. The fact of the matter is that the OP was lazy and didn't maintain her right to live in the USA. If the OP likes Canada so much, she should move there and be a high income earner that pays 60% of her income in taxes versus 35% in the USA although she will get "free" healthcare. The USA doesn't care about your little bit of taxes. They collect billions of $$$$ every minute. Stop passing the responsibility OP and act like an adult Edited August 6, 2016 by Lee&Ana

[EmilyW 1,462]

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Edited August 6, 2016 by EmilyW

[mallafri76 1,012]

Now i am wondering... Does the USA allow people who will never want the citizenship? I thought all immigration was with the intent to one day be a citizen.

Of course they do. Immigration is for moving and establishing residence, not to become citizen. Lots of people live and work in foreign countries without becoming citizens.

It is very good to hear others' perspective. I think for some high earners it may be an issue.

My husband and I have worked in international banking and have paid lots of taxes.

It was said that immigration laws in the US don't keep out US children, but that isn't true.

I won't send my children (Age 9 and 0 )to the US with only their father while I wait 6-12 months for a new GC.

What could he possibly do with the kids while he re-establishes his working career in the States?

So since all of us can't go now, probably none of us will. We will look at other options; Toronto, Canada, Tokyo, Japan.

Presume we go to one of those countries - then US loses:

a. my tax contribution

b. potentially mu kids never go to the US and turn over their US Passports when they come of age to avoid double taxation, draft etc.

c. The amount that my husband pays in tax abroad that he can exclude from his US taxes.

What does the US gain for this risk, that is my question, but I am delighted that there are people out there such as the posters on this board willing to help.

The US granted citizenship to children born there is of no benefit to me, unless you are pointing out differences between countries.

Indeed, I say that a country should look to its own citizens and prioritize them.

Thank you

Certainly, US immigration laws needs a bit of work, but every country has its good and bad aspects. You can still move back to the US, you just need to go through the IR-1 process. Just stay in Japan for another year while going through the process together and then move together or have your husband move over to re-establish domicile when you're closer to the end of the IR-1 process. Have you looked to see if Japan offers DCF? That would speed up the process for you.

[soulstriker 274]

complaining after the results of your irresponsibility and wanting ppl to cheer you on? god bless u

[Shauneg 762]

The U.S. doesn't need you as bad as you think it does. Despite what you say or think, yes your kids are free to come and go. Just because you choose not to send them without you doesn't make mean the U.S. is keeping them out. Before you left the U.S. you could have easily filled out a re-entry permit.....you did not. Not everyone who comes and gets a green card chooses to become a citizen, there is no requirement or need for some....so no the end goal isn't always a citizenship as you yourself stated you didn't do. For those who do not choose citizenship they must maintain residency unless given permission by the government which you obviously didn't do....don't see what your beef is.

In short the point of the maximum 1 year out is so that someone will be forced to maintain residency or give up their green card. What do you want it at? 5 years? 10 years? Perhaps there should be no limits and anyone who gets a green card may keep it forever no matter where they live and may apply for citizenship no matter where they've resided. Hell let's just offer anyone and everyone green cards with no restrictions or obligations.

Edited August 6, 2016 by Shauneg

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

Of course they do. Immigration is for moving and establishing residence, not to become citizen. Lots of people live and work in foreign.

thanks i wasnt clear on that....

OP AGAIN, you are welcome to your opinion about how horrible american immigration laws are and we will always welcome you back.

Dont poo-poo the system because its not more catering to you. If you obide by the regulations of the immigration laws entry and exit will be more to your liking...

Edited August 6, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

It's not correct that you are not allowed in the US. For short visits, you can try to apply for ESTA, and if approved, you can use the VWP to visit, for a maximum of 90 days at a time.

Alternatively, about a year before you are planning to move to the US, your husband can petition for you once again. He may have to move back a little earlier to establish domicile, but you certainly would not be apart for a year or even 6 months. (If you had an approved ESTA, you could even go visit him, timing it in such a way that when your 90 days were almost up, you'd return to Japan for your medical and immigrant visa interview.)

[KierenHby 899]

Interesting chatting with you folks.

No I am saying that the rule is illogical.

Your kidding yourself if you think that most countries, US included don't seek to attract high income earners which are generally high taxpayers.

It is not a game, Canada requires 2 years in residence for every 5 years and they count time outside of Canada with a Canadian Spouse as resident in Canada.

You cannot say with a straight face that US immigration laws work right?

How many undocumented? Like 3% at least

Current Admin chooses not to enforce some laws.

Tourists don't pay taxes on worldwide income.

I've been following this thread and decided to comment. You keep comparing the US to other nations. Each nation has it's own set of laws; if someone doesn't like those laws, they're free to leave the US and live wherever laws are they agree with. As others have mentioned, your sense of entitlement is amazing.

As a non-resident or non-US citizen, you do not have the right to blame the "Current Admin" for choosing to enforce laws as they deem fit.

[gregcrs2 1,778]

The spouse and children are all US citizens so the OP even mentioning immigration laws of Canada is a mute point.

[Boiler 45,728]

They sense of entitlement is awesome, congrats.

[KimberlyAhmed 28]

OP if you do not like the laws of this country, why bother trying to move back here. You could have applied for a reentry permit, but chose not to, so why should you be allowed easy entry now. Your children and husband who are US citizens are free to come here and are not being denied entrance. You seem to think that the laws should not apply to you, because you are rich.

[Motherof2American 0]

Well then, if it's so much easier for you in Canada, you can immigrate there.

People's sense of entitilement is amazing these days.

Thank you, yes, it is something we well consider, given Canada's much more logical or modern presence requirements.

The banking sector, is HQ in Toronto which often ranks as the best city in North America.

It is an easy trip to my in-laws in New York.

Toronto itself is quite multicultural.

[usmsbow 802]

Interesting chatting with you folks.

No I am saying that the rule is illogical.

Your kidding yourself if you think that most countries, US included don't seek to attract high income earners which are generally high taxpayers.

It is not a game, Canada requires 2 years in residence for every 5 years and they count time outside of Canada with a Canadian Spouse as resident in Canada.

You cannot say with a straight face that US immigration laws work right?

How many undocumented? Like 3% at least

Current Admin chooses not to enforce some laws.

Tourists don't pay taxes on worldwide income.

I never thought I'd say this: god bless USCIS and US immigration laws. If they're preventing people with a massive sense of entitlement from immigrating, then they're doing something right.

3% of what? The US population? Yeah, that's about right. What's your point? Do you see anyone arguing that our immigration policy is perfect? Any idea how many undocumented immigrants are in other countries? And how many developed countries share a very long border with a developing one?

Do you have any idea what US gov't revenue is? Even if you were a billionaire, the taxes you'd pay to the US government if you were living and working here would be a drop in the ocean.

The US has many problems, but a lack of wealth and rich people isn't one of them.