Police: George Zimmerman punched in face at Florida restaurant

[smilesammich 10,727]

karma is going to have gz by the balls for the rest of his days. i'm looking forward to the show

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I'm starting to see eerie similarities between GZ supporters and Trump supporters.

[OriZ 3,157]

I'm starting to see eerie similarities between GZ supporters and Trump supporters.

Lemme guess. They're all either racist, stupid, or both.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Lemme guess. They're all either racist, stupid, or both.

Why would race be the first thing that pops into your mind?

[Teddy B 17,252]

Why would race be the first thing that pops into your mind?

His wife has a mixed race son yanno.

[OriZ 3,157]

Why would race be the first thing that pops into your mind?

Ain't my mind....

Unlike some, my mind don't work that way at all. I was just making an educated guess based on past forum experience. Was I wrong? If I'm wrong what is the correct answer?

Edited August 5, 2016 by OriZ

[OriZ 3,157]

His wife has a mixed race son yanno.

Actually a son and a daughter and some other family members, and some pretty good friends to top it all off if it really matters to you that much

I'm probably one of the most candid people online about their life and family, and some that have met me can attest to it all being true, but if you want to use it against me feel free man.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Actually a son and a daughter and some other family members, and some pretty good friends to top it all off if it really matters to you that much

I'm probably one of the most candid people online about their life and family, and some that have met me can attest to it all being true, but if you want to use it against me feel free man.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Ain't my head....

Unlike some, my head don't work that way at all. I was just making an educated guess based on past forum experience. Was I wrong? If I'm wrong what is the correct answer?

The right answer is the willful ignorance of the situation. GZ had and continues to have run ins with the law and other people. HIs history of DV with women, his run in with police(at least 5 times, before and after killing TM), his willingness to brag about killing a black kid IRL and Twitter, the list goes on. And yet, no matter what he does, folks here seem to be hesitant to berate him but quick to think he's the victim.

Now, why do you think that is? Even you were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before Val posted that link. I didn't need it, I've seen his feed and the horrible things he keeps saying about Trayvon. I know he's a douche bag.

[OriZ 3,157]

The right answer is the willful ignorance of the situation. GZ had and continues to have run ins with the law and other people. HIs history of DV with women, his run in with police(at least 5 times, before and after killing TM), his willingness to brag about killing a black kid IRL and Twitter, the list goes on. And yet, no matter what he does, folks here seem to be hesitant to berate him but quick to think he's the victim.

Now, why do you think that is? Even you were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before Val posted that link. I didn't need it, I've seen his feed and the horrible things he keeps saying about Trayvon. I know he's a douche bag.

Why do I think that is? You tell me being you said it's not racism. So it just all comes down to willful ignorance then I guess that means Trump supporters aren't racist either. And no one is stupid. Good, we're finally starting to make some progress.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Why do I think that is? You tell me being you said it's not racism. So it just all comes down to willful ignorance then I guess that means Trump supporters aren't racist either. And no one is stupid. Good, we're finally starting to make some progress.

I'm asking you. I know why it is. And I've proven it time and time again with Trump supporters. But you want me to say it's race related so you can say it's "whining"..

Is race a factor? Yes, because I know for 100% fact if GZ was a black man and TM was a white teen, he'd be in jail right now. We even had a thread about it here and it was said out loud by a few members here that GZ would be in jail if such circumstances were in place. Don't know how that's not considered racist.

Also have you seen the videos of Trump rallies? The ones where they say the n-word and call gays ######? Where build that wall is a chant they say to Hispanics? Where they argue Islam isn't even a real religion and wear shirts saying F Islam?

[OriZ 3,157]

I'm asking you. I know why it is. And I've proven it time and time again with Trump supporters. But you want me to say it's race related so you can say it's "whining"..

Is race a factor? Yes, because I know for 100% fact if GZ was a black man and TM was a white teen, he'd be in jail right now. We even had a thread about it here and it was said out loud by a few members here that GZ would be in jail if such circumstances were in place. Don't know how that's not considered racist.

Also have you seen the videos of Trump rallies? The ones where they say the n-word and call gays ######? Where build that wall is a chant they say to Hispanics? Where they argue Islam isn't even a real religion and wear shirts saying F Islam?

I never claimed there were no pockets of racists among Trump supporters, or anywhere for that matter. I don't deny prejudice exists. As a Jew, that would be foolish. What I am coming out against is the labeling and generalization. I also disagree that if GZ was a black man and TM was white he would be in jail, but I guess it would depend on the particular jury and evidence. I think with what evidence the jury had to work with, they came to the right conclusion. You can't say you know it for a FACT. You can assume, that's all you can do.

No I don't want you to say it's race so I can say it's whining, I want you to say race if that's what you believe it is, instead of turning it around on me telling me it was my mind going that way.

[TBoneTX 45,308]

build that wall is a chant they say to Hispanics

This would be a golden opportunity for entrepreneurs (including sharp black entrepreneurs who can seize the moment) to sell anti-Trump Hispanics specially made T-shirts that say, "Relax, Gringo -- I'm Legal!"

It would be even more fun to sell shirts that say that... in Spanish.

When life hands you lemons, make lemonade.

When life hands you tampons, make tamponade (or something like that).

Sad to see folks walking around feeling worried or persecuted or defeated when even one unique little idea might change the focus to fun, profitable stuff. An anti-Trump small-businessman who owned a T-shirt or ad-specialty company would not only have a blast and make some money, but would also probably hope for more Trumpkin antics, which would serve to sell even more "Relax, Gringo" T-shirts!

[TBoneTX 45,308]

Another idea:

Manufacture key rings that have a picture of Trump on one side and "Relax, Gringo -- I'm Legal!" on the flip side. Sell these to Hispanic protesters who would then peacefully hand them out to Trump supporters at rallies. The Trumpkins wouldn't know WHAT to think.

Alternative: The picture of Trump could be of Melania Trump...

Edited August 5, 2016 by TBoneTX

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I never claimed there were no pockets of racists among Trump supporters, or anywhere for that matter. I don't deny prejudice exists. As a Jew, that would be foolish. What I am coming out against is the labeling and generalization. I also disagree that if GZ was a black man and TM was white he would be in jail, but I guess it would depend on the particular jury and evidence. I think with what evidence the jury had to work with, they came to the right conclusion. You can't say you know it for a FACT. You can assume, that's all you can do.

No I don't want you to say it's race so I can say it's whining, I want you to say race if that's what you believe it is, instead of turning it around on me telling me it was my mind going that way.

Pockets? His rallies are comprised of them. When you hold up a sign that said no racism and you're kicked out for it, that's racism. When black people have been beaten up, punched in the face, for just being there, that's racism. When people of color are told to go back to their own countries(and they're born here), that's racism. When Trump's name has become a symbol of a racial slur towards people of Hispanic descent, that's racism.

And I can say that's a fact. Why? Because, as a black person who's lived here all of my life and seen how this country views us, there's no way he wouldn't have gone to jail. You've had cases where black people have stood their ground and been locked up for doing less damage than GZ ever did. Race isn't what I believe it is, it's how I experience it.