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If you start "world history" with Columbus' arrival in the Caribbean in 1492, and then solely focus on American history, sure.

Although I get confused, because some insist that even white Latinos are an oppressed minority in the U.S., while others like to point out their Spanish and Portuguese ancestors' conquest of the Americas as evidence of the white boogey man.

Either way, it would be incredibly Western-centric to exclude the Persian empire and its two centuries of conquest. Or the largest empire in human history - The Mongol Empire, which extended well into Europe at its height. Or millenia of Chinese hegemony in East Asia. Or the Ottoman Empire, which ruled a fairly substantial portion of Europe for centuries - Hence why Islam is widespread in southeastern Europe including Bosnia, Albania, Bulgaria and Kosovo.

You're also forgetting about most history of African slavery - You know, that pesky Arab slave trade which brought millions of African and European slaves to the Ottoman Empire, Cairo and Zanzibar for over 1,000 years, well into the 20th century - 'Trumping' the Atlantic slave trade in both scope and extent. Largely ignored in U.S. curriculum for reasons unknown. Perhaps it's more convenient to conclude that slavery on the whole was "white male oppression?" That certainly wasn't true for Portuguese, French, Scandinavian slaves sold at markets in Istanbul.

But yes, if you put America in the center, focus solely on European colonialism, disregard Turkish and Arab colonialism, and then view history within the prism of the last 120 years while ignoring the Japanese Empire, you could come to that conclusion.

Maybe because there was a pretty lucrative slave trade going on right here in the USA at the time.

I really am struggling to find out why this tidbit of information is thrown out there like slaves weren't owned by white people here. And I've had more than one person here tell me I should be more mad at the African/Muslims that owned slaves in a different country than the white people who owned them here.

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Certainly Muslims were big in the slave trade, and if was other Blacks who sold them to the shippers in the first place.

Going to get complicated.

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Certainly Muslims were big in the slave trade, and if was other Blacks who sold them to the shippers in the first place.

Going to get complicated.

So were the Europeans. And black people didn't sell them back then to the shippers. The Africans did.

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So were the Europeans. And black people didn't sell them back then to the shippers. The Africans did.

Africans are not black, ok.

So Europeans are not white?

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Africans are not black, ok.

So Europeans are not white?

Black people are born here in American.

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Black people are born here in American.

Did not know that.

I am going to guess many Black people in other countries are in for a shock.

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Did not know that.

I am going to guess many Black people in other countries are in for a shock.

No, because they don't identify as black. Dark skinned people usually title themselves as whatever country they're in with African.

But, you can say black british. They just don't want to identify as African American.

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No, because they don't identify as black. Dark skinned people usually title themselves as whatever country they're in with African.

But, you can say black British. They just don't want to identify as African American.

To call someone British you would need to see their Passport.

I think you need to lay down for a while.

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To call someone British you would need to see their Passport.

I think you need to lay down for a while.

And you need to do some homework

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtEACiKWqWA

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OK........

So certainly when I was growing up the Black community in London was significantly Jamaican. How does that fit in?

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Anyone who thinks they are "owed" something, needs to get off their self-pity trip (and their lazy #######) and work and EARN whatever it is that they want. Unless they are physically disabled after a lifetime of working, all they are entitled to in America is the right to work hard and succeed. Legal immigrants have been doing just that since America was discovered.

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Would be a bit racist to say:

Arab males have been a bummer through most of history.

or

Asian males have been a bummer through most of history.

Wouldn't it?

without context it makes no difference. im not sure if you're offended by my 'racist' statement but if it makes you feel better, my husband and son are both white males. they agree with my bummer assessment. history is what it is.
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Silly you we covered this month's ago. Africans have been de blacked because they come to America and thrive despite Thier color. Hence the de blacking

Because they've not been the subject of 400 plus years of hate, but keep believing that.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Because they've not been the subject of 400 plus years of hate, but keep believing that.

I don't even no where to start . How does one determine an it's a black African vs a black African slash American so we can instantly put our white oppressor mode on.

 
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