Reparations

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You forgot it is exclusive to black people as well. Sheesh, get with the program already will you.

Sorry

[Rob L 3,811]

I take it as you will donate all the property you own to the local indian tribe in the next few days '' That will take care of your white guilt.

no gilt, no guilt...just reality checks

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Sorry

That's better.

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What you don't seem to get, is that racism exists, EVERYWHERE. In EVERY COUNTRY. Not just where YOU have lived. I know only two (actual, not the ones who falsely claim the status) African Americans. One has been here for 23 years, the other for 10 years. And both tell me that living in Africa, they were subject to racism on a regular basis. One tells me he brought his family to America because he feared for his wife and children's lives.

Oh, and they are both white.

I'm not saying there is no inequality. I am not saying you never had it tough. But you're not the only one who had it so. What one chooses to do about it says more about their strength and goals in life than anything. Oh, and not just blacks are held back, or born poor. Try coming from a foreign country and making things work. There are more ways to be an outsider than just the color of your skin. If I were to go to Africa, or somewhere else where the predominant population was black, I know I would be the underdog. I would suffer. But why put myself in that position? Why not make the best of what I have here?

I'm not sure, but are you talking about another black member here? Because I think I've said about a hundred times that racism is everywhere. I've experienced it in Germany, Sicily, (Belgium wasn't bad) and Japan. Not to mention places like Korea, Vietnam, and Hong Kong. Can't even catch a cab without a white guy decoy there.

As for the folks from Africa, yeah I could see that, with that whole apartheid thing that happened. But let me guess, because they were white, this upset you and means that when a white person experiences it, it's way worse...

Unless this mythical black poster you seem to have me confused with speaks up, I'm pretty sure you can't find it here that I've said I'm the only one. And TBH, I think I've had it pretty easy to my parents and grandparents. I've got friends at work about 15 years older and they got stories. Mine don't even rate when you can see the scars on a person's body.

As far as people from other countries go that come here poor and make good, it's not secret to why that is. There's no stigma about them. They're not judged in the same manner. Hell I've seen poor Asians be like, at least we're not poor black people. It's like you and Oriz keep wanting to move the goal post. No one wants to be victim status #1, but if you want to keep thinking being white is some kind of disadvantage because you can't CLAIM racism, it's a free country.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/10/white-in-africa-outsiderAs far as your I'm white and would suck in Africa, please do some research.

My skin colour represents privilege and status. Must suck to be you.

You forgot it is exclusive to black people as well. Sheesh, get with the program already will you.

Same to you Oriz, please post where I said it's exclusively to black people. And while you're at it, post those laws I keep asking for. Since Jewish people are so oppressed here in the US. And let's be clear since you're trying to move the post too, LAWS or something that keeps Jewish people out of something.

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I'm not sure, but are you talking about another black member here? Because I think I've said about a hundred times that racism is everywhere. I've experienced it in Germany, Sicily, (Belgium wasn't bad) and Japan. Not to mention places like Korea, Vietnam, and Hong Kong. Can't even catch a cab without a white guy decoy there.

As for the folks from Africa, yeah I could see that, with that whole apartheid thing that happened. But let me guess, because they were white, this upset you and means that when a white person experiences it, it's way worse...

Unless this mythical black poster you seem to have me confused with speaks up, I'm pretty sure you can't find it here that I've said I'm the only one. And TBH, I think I've had it pretty easy to my parents and grandparents. I've got friends at work about 15 years older and they got stories. Mine don't even rate when you can see the scars on a person's body.

As far as people from other countries go that come here poor and make good, it's not secret to why that is. There's no stigma about them. They're not judged in the same manner. Hell I've seen poor Asians be like, at least we're not poor black people. It's like you and Oriz keep wanting to move the goal post. No one wants to be victim status #1, but if you want to keep thinking being white is some kind of disadvantage because you can't CLAIM racism, it's a free country.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/10/white-in-africa-outsiderAs far as your I'm white and would suck in Africa, please do some research.

My skin colour represents privilege and status. Must suck to be you.

Same to you Oriz, please post where I said it's exclusively to black people. And while you're at it, post those laws I keep asking for. Since Jewish people are so oppressed here in the US. And let's be clear since you're trying to move the post too, LAWS or something that keeps Jewish people out of something.

I'll gladly "own up" to white privilege the day I hear any proponent of the matter lay out a good argument as to why, specifically, it's called "white" privilege.

Asian Americans have the highest average household incomes in America. Indian Americans are the only ethnic group making over $100k per year on average. Asian Americans are on average more educated, have higher life expectancy, are less likely to be incarcerated, less likely to be shot by police, less likely to be perpetrators or victims of crimes than white Americans. Iranian Americans make on average $100 more than Norwegian Americans, while Japanese Americans make on average $10,000 more per year and Filipino American households make an average of $20,000 more per year. Pakistani Americans and German Americans have roughly the same annual income, while Taiwanese Americans outperform most other demographic groups in virtually every single measure pertaining to standard of living.

If "Asian America" was a country, it would be by far the world's wealthiest, while "African America" would still be the world's 13th wealthiest, outperforming half the European Union.

Yet, we live in a racist sh*thole trying to annihilate black people, with a system that is "rigged" to benefit white people at the expense of minorities. And Asian privilege does not exist because.. What? Band-aids more often come in "European complexion"?

When you single out a significant part of the population based solely on the color of their skin but fail to substantiate why accusations made don't apply to others, you end up convincing very few people. That's true whether you single out blacks, whites, Hispanics or Asians. My initial gut feeling would have it that the narrative of "white privilege" fits in perfectly with the narrative of an "oppressive, racist sh*thole called America", and statistics suggesting that white Americans aren't doing quite as well as other demographics groups is.. Well.. Contrary to that narrative. It's kind of like when some Christian groups dismiss clear evidence of an Earth dating waaaaay farther back than 6,000 years. Because pretending it's 6,000 years old conveniently fits the narrative.

Unfortunately, a number of science-denying young Earth Christians have made their way into elected government. And frighteningly, a large number of social science-denying activists have made their way into academia.

Edited August 13, 2016 by JayJayH

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I'll gladly "own up" to white privilege the day I hear any proponent of the matter lay out a good argument as to why, specifically, it's called "white" privilege.

Asian Americans have the highest average household incomes in America. Indian Americans are the only ethnic group making over $100k per year on average. Asian Americans are on average more educated, have higher life expectancy, are less likely to be incarcerated, less likely to be shot by police, less likely to be perpetrators or victims of crimes than white Americans. Iranian Americans make on average $100 more than Norwegian Americans, while Japanese Americans make on average $10,000 more per year and Filipino American households make an average of $20,000 more per year. Pakistani Americans and German Americans have roughly the same annual income, while Taiwanese Americans outperform most other demographic groups in virtually every single measure pertaining to standard of living.

If "Asian America" was a country, it would be by far the world's wealthiest, while "African America" would still be the world's 13th wealthiest, outperforming half the European Union.

Yet, we live in a racist sh*thole trying to annihilate black people, with a system that is "rigged" to benefit white people at the expense of minorities. And Asian privilege does not exist because.. What? Band-aids more often come in "European complexion"?

When you single out a significant part of the population based solely on the color of their skin but fail to substantiate why accusations made don't apply to others, you end up convincing very few people. That's true whether you single out blacks, whites, Hispanics or Asians. My initial gut feeling would have it that the narrative of "white privilege" fits in perfectly with the narrative of an "oppressive, racist sh*thole called America", and statistics suggesting that white Americans aren't doing quite as well as other demographics groups is.. Well.. Contrary to that narrative. It's kind of like when some Christian groups dismiss clear evidence of an Earth dating waaaaay farther back than 6,000 years. Because pretending it's 6,000 years old conveniently fits the narrative.

all I can add is AMEN. Great post. Sadly I never use +1's but used them all up last night

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To be fair Taiwanese Privilege does not have the same ring to it.

And I have a feeling all those other groups mentioned are not going to be guilt shamed, much easier it seems for those enjoying WP, even if there is not much to enjoy.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I spent 10 hours today at work exercising my white privilege.

I am pretty sure Obama's white half private got him elected

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I'll gladly "own up" to white privilege the day I hear any proponent of the matter lay out a good argument as to why, specifically, it's called "white" privilege.

Asian Americans have the highest average household incomes in America. Indian Americans are the only ethnic group making over $100k per year on average. Asian Americans are on average more educated, have higher life expectancy, are less likely to be incarcerated, less likely to be shot by police, less likely to be perpetrators or victims of crimes than white Americans. Iranian Americans make on average $100 more than Norwegian Americans, while Japanese Americans make on average $10,000 more per year and Filipino American households make an average of $20,000 more per year. Pakistani Americans and German Americans have roughly the same annual income, while Taiwanese Americans outperform most other demographic groups in virtually every single measure pertaining to standard of living.

If "Asian America" was a country, it would be by far the world's wealthiest, while "African America" would still be the world's 13th wealthiest, outperforming half the European Union.

Yet, we live in a racist sh*thole trying to annihilate black people, with a system that is "rigged" to benefit white people at the expense of minorities. And Asian privilege does not exist because.. What? Band-aids more often come in "European complexion"?

When you single out a significant part of the population based solely on the color of their skin but fail to substantiate why accusations made don't apply to others, you end up convincing very few people. That's true whether you single out blacks, whites, Hispanics or Asians. My initial gut feeling would have it that the narrative of "white privilege" fits in perfectly with the narrative of an "oppressive, racist sh*thole called America", and statistics suggesting that white Americans aren't doing quite as well as other demographics groups is.. Well.. Contrary to that narrative. It's kind of like when some Christian groups dismiss clear evidence of an Earth dating waaaaay farther back than 6,000 years. Because pretending it's 6,000 years old conveniently fits the narrative.

Unfortunately, a number of science-denying young Earth Christians have made their way into elected government. And frighteningly, a large number of social science-denying activists have made their way into academia.

Actually it does.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/opinions/lee-immigration-ethnic-capital/

Instead, it's a unique form of privilege that is grounded in the socioeconomic origins of some -- not all -- Asian immigrant groups. Understanding this privilege offers insights into how we can help children from all backgrounds succeed.

So there's that.

As for your first question, instead of a long drawn out statement, I'll say this. Donald Trump is running for President. If you can find me one other person of another race that could run and make the same mistakes, let me know. He is the epitome of white privilege.

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Actually it does.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/opinions/lee-immigration-ethnic-capital/

Instead, it's a unique form of privilege that is grounded in the socioeconomic origins of some -- not all -- Asian immigrant groups. Understanding this privilege offers insights into how we can help children from all backgrounds succeed.

So there's that.

As for your first question, instead of a long drawn out statement, I'll say this. Donald Trump is running for President. If you can find me one other person of another race that could run and make the same mistakes, let me know. He is the epitome of white privilege.

So when we talk about privilege, we're mainly talking socioeconomics, not white supremacy. According to popular narrative, 4th generation Japanese Americans should be doing terrible in American society. Newly arrived Filipino Americans should be doing even worse. Instead, Asian Anericans are generally better off than white Americans on average, whether you they are 1st generation or 3rd generation.

I disagree. Ben Carson is the only republican candidate to have actually lead Donald Trump in the polls, even after numerous questionable comments. Carson rose in the polls precisely because he played on the outsider, populist right wave. His campaign didn't dwindle because GOP voters all of a sudden found out he was black. It dwindled because of a terrible debate performance on foreign policy and subsequent lack of momentum. The same is true for Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Ben Carson could have been as bombastic as Trump, and he would have gotten where Trump is today. Trump's largest gain in poll numbers actually came in November when Carson's support began to fade.

What Ben Carson did endure were a barrage of racial slurs from the left ranging from Uncle Tom to Porch Monkey to Oreo cookie to race traitor.

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yeah, i don't think the right wouldve found carson cute if he'd said things like, mccain isn't a hero or even mentioned a womans period. guess carson's dinosaur bones theory wasn't strong enough to catapult him into 'presidential level questionable comment' fame. so...loser.

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yeah, i don't think the right wouldve found carson cute if he'd said things like, mccain isn't a hero or even mentioned a womans period. guess carson's dinosaur bones theory wasn't strong enough to catapult him into 'presidential level questionable comment' fame. so...loser.

I wouldn't call Carson a loser, he tripped on some nerve twitching comments. In reality, I think he was the most viable candidate that ran, i know that is only my subjective opinion. My only complaint is that he stands by Trump at the expense of his own political credibility

[Rob L 3,811]

I'll gladly "own up" to white privilege the day I hear any proponent of the matter lay out a good argument as to why, specifically, it's called "white" privilege.

Asian Americans have the highest average household incomes in America. Indian Americans are the only ethnic group making over $100k per year on average. Asian Americans are on average more educated, have higher life expectancy, are less likely to be incarcerated, less likely to be shot by police, less likely to be perpetrators or victims of crimes than white Americans. Iranian Americans make on average $100 more than Norwegian Americans, while Japanese Americans make on average $10,000 more per year and Filipino American households make an average of $20,000 more per year. Pakistani Americans and German Americans have roughly the same annual income, while Taiwanese Americans outperform most other demographic groups in virtually every single measure pertaining to standard of living.

If "Asian America" was a country, it would be by far the world's wealthiest, while "African America" would still be the world's 13th wealthiest, outperforming half the European Union.

Yet, we live in a racist sh*thole trying to annihilate black people, with a system that is "rigged" to benefit white people at the expense of minorities. And Asian privilege does not exist because.. What? Band-aids more often come in "European complexion"?

When you single out a significant part of the population based solely on the color of their skin but fail to substantiate why accusations made don't apply to others, you end up convincing very few people. That's true whether you single out blacks, whites, Hispanics or Asians. My initial gut feeling would have it that the narrative of "white privilege" fits in perfectly with the narrative of an "oppressive, racist sh*thole called America", and statistics suggesting that white Americans aren't doing quite as well as other demographics groups is.. Well.. Contrary to that narrative. It's kind of like when some Christian groups dismiss clear evidence of an Earth dating waaaaay farther back than 6,000 years. Because pretending it's 6,000 years old conveniently fits the narrative.

Unfortunately, a number of science-denying young Earth Christians have made their way into elected government. And frighteningly, a large number of social science-denying activists have made their way into academia.

let me play you analogy back to make sure I understand it:

Elected officials espousing creationist views are holding back American society and the same way the architects of social science that is not data driven are working their way onto the Universities of America in a way that is creating false narratives about race in America...do I have that right?

Edited August 13, 2016 by Rob L

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So when we talk about privilege, we're mainly talking socioeconomics, not white supremacy. According to popular narrative, 4th generation Japanese Americans should be doing terrible in American society. Newly arrived Filipino Americans should be doing even worse. Instead, Asian Anericans are generally better off than white Americans on average, whether you they are 1st generation or 3rd generation.

I disagree. Ben Carson is the only republican candidate to have actually lead Donald Trump in the polls, even after numerous questionable comments. Carson rose in the polls precisely because he played on the outsider, populist right wave. His campaign didn't dwindle because GOP voters all of a sudden found out he was black. It dwindled because of a terrible debate performance on foreign policy and subsequent lack of momentum. The same is true for Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Ben Carson could have been as bombastic as Trump, and he would have gotten where Trump is today. Trump's largest gain in poll numbers actually came in November when Carson's support began to fade.

What Ben Carson did endure were a barrage of racial slurs from the left ranging from Uncle Tom to Porch Monkey to Oreo cookie to race traitor.

Actually, let's look at this shall we.

In terms of economics, they are. But once again, do you think a Japanese or any other Asian could have done what Trump is doing now? Nope. It's not humanely possible. But if you look at the wealthiest Americans here, who's at the top?

And I'm glad you brought up Carson. Because i said it here a while ago, he was NEVER going to make it as the GOP front runner. Just like Cain from 2012. Same strategy. They come out strong and then, poof. Gone. What's even more interesting is your comment about his debate skills. Trump was worse, more so than any other candidate. So much so that when Carson started to fall, it was asked aloud why he was taking a hit while Trump, who made more mistakes, debated horribly, and lied more than all the candidates continued to rise. Because Carson, like all the other GOP candidates was held to a higher standard. I saw when Carson was torn to pieces here for just lying about two different subjects, while Trump gets a pass on every single thing he does.

He didn't lose because he was called a racist on the left, he lost because he never had a chance in the first place. Anyone with eyes can see the GOP won't put a POC in the WH, at least not in our lifetime. Trump's rise makes that clear as day. Because if we're going off the political climate today, Carson should have never fallen off. He didn't make a quarter of the mistakes Trump did, but the rebuke was swift and brutal.

Go look at any number of Trump supporters on FB or Twitter. Racism is hot and heavy. I've seen James Woods TL, never would have pegged him for a racist, but Trump's rise? Looks like the KKK threw up on his feed.

I wouldn't call Carson a loser, he tripped on some nerve twitching comments. In reality, I think he was the most viable candidate that ran, i know that is only my subjective opinion. My only complaint is that he stands by Trump at the expense of his own political credibility

He's not a loser. What Val was saying was, if Carson say anything that Trump said, that's what they would call him and he'd be blasted into oblivion. And I'm ashamed that he sold out for Trump.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/22/politics/2016-election-poll-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton register net negative ratings in double digits, indicating the front-runners for each party's presidential nominations are viewed negatively at historic levels, according to a new CBS/New York Times poll.

That makes Trump and Clinton viewed more unfavourably than any front-runner for either party since 1984, when CBS began polling voters on the question.

So much for their WP.