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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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Hello!

I have a question. In an ideal world, me and my husband will file for my Removal of Condition in May 2017 as my conditional gc will expire in Sept 2017. But unfortunate things happen and instead, we are going to file for divorce.

My questions are:

1. When is right time to file for ROC, is it before filing for divorce, during the process of divorce or once the divorce has been granted?

2. I read something that I need to present evidence that we have a bona fide marriage, but we don't have properties, we dont have joint bank account, we dont have shared bills, i used to be under his insurance but since his insurance company doesnt pay for my pills, i needed to apply for a diff health insurance, our ITR are filed separately but married. How will this affect my ROC application? Any other evidences that I can submit?

3. He is the one who is no longer happy with the marriage. Even after I found out about his other women, I was the one who is willing to work things out, but since it was him who gave up on our marriage, i really cant stay married to him. Should it matter who files for divorce? Is it better that I file or should it be him? we are in a fault/no-fault state, btw.

4. Also, we are not living together for 3 months now. Will that be a problem? I haven't reported my change of address because, our plan was to move out of his parents' house and have our own place. But since that is not likely to happen anymore, will I have a problem?

5. Do I need to have an immigration lawyer?

This probably has been asked a thousand times and I would appreciate all the information I could get.

Thank you very much.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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The fact that you basically have no evidence of bona fide marriage is worrying. Divorce waiver I-751s are not hard to get approved, but you certainly need the right evidence.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Lebanon
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The good news is that your marriage length is considered good enough to be real and not fraud, the bad news is that you dont have evidence of loving together all that time and evidence of finacial comingling.

The immigration process caused me PTSD.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Jordan
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The good news is that your marriage length is considered good enough to be real and not fraud, the bad news is that you dont have evidence of loving together all that time and evidence of finacial comingling.

it isn't the length of marriage that proves a bonafide marriage, evidence does.

how do you expect to get a divorce waiver with virtually zero evidence of a bonafide marriage?


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I'm sorry to hear about your marriage problems.
It is my understanding that the divorce needs to be finalized before you apply for ROC. If you apply for ROC before the divorce you will be basically proving that you are still married (which would be a lie since you are moving forward with divorce) and to apply with a divorce waiver you would need proof of divorce. So you would need to have it finalized before you apply for ROC

As far as who should be the one filing for divorce, I don't imagine that would make a difference. Divorce is divorce, i'm not sure if USCIS cares who divorced who, they just care that you are divorced.

Unfortunately you don't seem to have any real evidence of a real marriage. From my understanding I don't imagine it will be an easy process without the evidence. Do you guys have children together? Proof of honeymoon, vacations, etc. Affidavits, photos, letters, emails, etc. Maybe even something as simple as checking in on Facebook together at the same place might help just to show that you have been together openly. Anything that can prove that you had a real marriage.

Fiancee Visa Timeline

1/7/16 - I-129F Sent

1/28/16 - NOA1

3/10/16 - NOA2

4/8/16 - NVC Sent

5/2/16 - Medical

5/2/16 - Interview

5/4/16 - Physical

5/10/16 - Dropped passport off at Embassy

5/12/16 - Visa in Hand

5/21/16 - POE

7/10/16 - Marriage

 

AOS Timeline

7/21/16 - Mailed packet

7/23/16 - Packet delivered

7/28/16 - NOA1

10/7/16 - Biometrics

11/30/16 - EAD/AP Approved

12/6.16 - EAD/AP Received

1/21/17 - New card ordered for production

1/23/17 - Greencard Approved (no interview)

1/24/17 - Greencard Mailed

1/26/17 - Greencard Received

 

  • On Oct 13th AOS status was updated to say that a notice was returned due to post office being unable to deliver it. Tier two told me that it was biometrics or NOA1 (even though I had received both before this date).

  • A few weeks later I received a notice dated Nov 10th, in regards to my call about the Oct 13th notice. The new notice said that there were no RFE's or withholding on my case. So still not sure what this Oct 13th notice was about.

  • Received a letter from a NY office on Dec 23rd (dated Dec 10) stating that my medical was over 1 year old. (At this point my medical was only 7 months old)

  • Teir two submitted an internal service request to which I got a response telling me that I need to respond to RFE ASAP

  • Submitted another service request on 1/6/17. To which I got a response on 1/19/17 stating that my case was pending and is outside of processing time (no mention of RFE)

 

ROC Timeline

10/21/18 - Packet Sent

xx/xx/xx - NOA1

xx/xx/xx - NOA2

xx/xx/xx - Card Received

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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I'm sorry to hear about your marriage problems.

It is my understanding that the divorce needs to be finalized before you apply for ROC. If you apply for ROC before the divorce you will be basically proving that you are still married (which would be a lie since you are moving forward with divorce) and to apply with a divorce waiver you would need proof of divorce. So you would need to have it finalized before you apply for ROC

As far as who should be the one filing for divorce, I don't imagine that would make a difference. Divorce is divorce, i'm not sure if USCIS cares who divorced who, they just care that you are divorced.

Unfortunately you don't seem to have any real evidence of a real marriage. From my understanding I don't imagine it will be an easy process without the evidence. Do you guys have children together? Proof of honeymoon, vacations, etc. Affidavits, photos, letters, emails, etc. Maybe even something as simple as checking in on Facebook together at the same place might help just to show that you have been together openly. Anything that can prove that you had a real marriage.

This isn't true, you can apply for a divorce waiver if your divorce is still pending, especially if you're about to run out of time to apply before your GC expires. If you don't have a finalized divorce they will send you an RFE for a divorce certificate, which buys you time. Then you send it in when you have it.

Good luck!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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This isn't true, you can apply for a divorce waiver if your divorce is still pending, especially if you're about to run out of time to apply before your GC expires. If you don't have a finalized divorce they will send you an RFE for a divorce certificate, which buys you time. Then you send it in when you have it.

Good luck!

While that is true, it seems to me that the complete lack of evidence of bona fide marriage is a huge problem for a divorce waiver I-751.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

 
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