#BLM Back of the bus

[Merle 458]

you really should give up the dance. why don't we speak of white on white crime if constant finger pointing at black on black crime is totally acceptable? since you wont answer the question directly, i can only assume you hold the view that black people are prone to criminality and since they are prone to it, it is there problem to deal with themselves. i won't say what category that particular view falls under, since you'll just report my comment.

but everyone with a brain who reads you try to defend such nonsense can totally see it.

It's all about context. Usually the finger pointing starts when black folks start yapping about young black men being hunted down and killed by police. Thats when it's normally pointed out that young black men are more than likely to be killed by other young black men than by anything else.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I'm in a bit of a hurry, so I'll hit this first part, then try to come back and read/answer the rest.

It has been posted here many times that whites kill more whites every year than any other. And blacks kill more blacks. (I haven't examined it, but I would suspect that all colors hurt & kill each other more than any other color here in the US, minus the Indiand who lived here when the first whites showed up). That's a fact that we all have to live with, and in my opinion it's pretty simple why it happens that way... We all interact with our own colors more. We get involved with them more. We disagree with them more. We fight with them more. Spouses, then family, then friends, then acquaintances, then strangers, typically in that order.

It has been said here, several times, that when 13% of the population commits 75% of reported crimes, a disproportionate of them, then it becomes a factor in how they are viewed. The same way as when one or two Americans in Japan cause a big stink when they get a DUI or kill someone in Thailand or the Philippines. (just pulling numbers out of my butt here, I am sure both are off, but you get the idea). Yes, it means blacks are more likely to be suspects. Doesn't mean you have to "accept what happens to you". If you are treated unfairly/unjustly, then you should do something about. Within the confines of the law, of course. Fighting and arguing with the police, arguing your innocence while being arrested, is probably not the best way to go about that.

And it's been proven wrong here over and over again but here we go:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

According to the FBI, black people lead in 3 categories, murder, robbery, and gambling. The other 27 are lead by white people. So when you say we commit the most crime, this is inaccurate. Also, if white people lead in the most categories, why aren't they profiled? It's like the only crime that matters is the one where black people are in front. But I'll let you in on a little secret. Racism precedes police brutality. Because between the 1920-1960s the crime rate wasn't no where near where it is now, and cops were killing black people in even more numbers. And they dressed properly and were law biding citizens. The black panthers was formed for this very reason. They used to pull over and shout out legal advice to blacks who were stopped by the police and made sure their rights weren't violated. So this whole if we just act right we'll be okay is a crock. There's always a reason. Not saying I'm not a law biding citizen and justify anything, but it's the same thing as telling a woman to stop wearing skirts so she won't be raped.

And for the record, the night I had that run in with the police, I was completely compliant. The only thing I did that was out of line was stop that cop from killing my friend with his gun, because had that happened, he would have killed me too. I was the only witness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BgFk38Cry4

As racist as they come .BLM = the new black version of the KKK

But Lib, you said the KKK is a group full of 80 year old people in wheelchairs, totally irrelevant in today's society. If that's true, why are you scared of BLM?

It's all about context. Usually the finger pointing starts when black folks start yapping about young black men being hunted down and killed by police. Thats when it's normally pointed out that young black men are more than likely to be killed by other young black men than by anything else.

So we shouldn't be upset that the folks paid to protect us are in the same position as the ones who are killing us?

[smilesammich 10,727]

It's all about context. Usually the finger pointing starts when black folks start yapping about young black men being hunted down and killed by police. Thats when it's normally pointed out that young black men are more than likely to be killed by other young black men than by anything else.

from where i sit it's about passing the buck. when 'black folks start yapping' about police violence, the context is police violence.

imagine a white life lost at the hands of police and your argument so as to refuse to hold police accountable for that life is: but but what about all the white people that kill other white people???

it's a ludicrous response and yet, that's the only response your camp has.

[Sousuke 1,214]

And it's been proven wrong here over and over again but here we go:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

According to the FBI, black people lead in 3 categories, murder, robbery, and gambling. The other 27 are lead by white people. So when you say we commit the most crime, this is inaccurate. Also, if white people lead in the most categories, why aren't they profiled? It's like the only crime that matters is the one where black people are in front. But I'll let you in on a little secret. Racism precedes police brutality. Because between the 1920-1960s the crime rate wasn't no where near where it is now, and cops were killing black people in even more numbers. And they dressed properly and were law biding citizens. The black panthers was formed for this very reason. They used to pull over and shout out legal advice to blacks who were stopped by the police and made sure their rights weren't violated. So this whole if we just act right we'll be okay is a crock. There's always a reason. Not saying I'm not a law biding citizen and justify anything, but it's the same thing as telling a woman to stop wearing skirts so she won't be raped.

And for the record, the night I had that run in with the police, I was completely compliant. The only thing I did that was out of line was stop that cop from killing my friend with his gun, because had that happened, he would have killed me too. I was the only witness...

But Lib, you said the KKK is a group full of 80 year old people in wheelchairs, totally irrelevant in today's society. If that's true, why are you scared of BLM?

So we shouldn't be upset that the folks paid to protect us are in the same position as the ones who are killing us?

I support your position but just wanted to mention that statistically the Black or African American segment lead in more than three categories.

You need to take the percent of crime and apply it to percent of population. Using that standard they lead in every category but DUIs and Liquor laws.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I support your position but just wanted to mention that statistically the Black or African American segment lead in more than three categories.

You need to take the percent of crime and apply it to percent of population. Using that standard they lead in every category but DUIs and Liquor laws.

So, you think the police use calculators in order to find out if we lead in embezzlements? Because I'm pretty sure white collar crimes on Wall Street aren't flooded with black people.

[Sousuke 1,214]

So, you think the police use calculators in order to find out if we lead in embezzlements? Because I'm pretty sure white collar crimes on Wall Street aren't flooded with black people.

Embezzlement can be small time too, like a local shop.

I think that if your white and work in a position of power though your less likely to see an arrest. Thats something those stats do not address.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

If I am not mistaken the term Black on Black crime was introduced by black people in calling for a reduction in it.

Just like the term Thug that many rappers used to identify a certain lifestyle.

I support your position but just wanted to mention that statistically the Black or African American segment lead in more than three categories.

You need to take the percent of crime and apply it to percent of population. Using that standard they lead in every category but DUIs and Liquor laws.

And that has been pointed out 500 times

Embezzlement can be small time too, like a local shop.

I think that if your white and work in a position of power though your less likely to see an arrest. Thats something those stats do not address.

Hillary just proved that

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Embezzlement can be small time too, like a local shop.

I think that if your white and work in a position of power though your less likely to see an arrest. Thats something those stats do not address.

This right here will do the trick. You should look up #crimingwhilewhite.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

This right here will do the trick. You should look up #crimingwhilewhite.

So tell me what crime category blacks make up less than 14% of. That would mean they are under represented

[Sousuke 1,214]

So tell me what crime category blacks make up less than 14% of. That would mean they are under represented

The notion being that the stats may be inflated due to disproportional arrests.

As an example, if 50 white people commit a crime and 50 black people commit a crime, what would be the arrest rate for both. That will heavily sway the stats.

If say 10/50 whites are arrested where as 25/50 blacks are arrested then you would need to apply a fractional adjustment to the statics.

Edited July 29, 2016 by Sousuke

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

The notion being that the stats may be inflated due to disproportional arrests.

As an example, if 50 white people commit a crime and 50 black people commit a crime, what would be the arrest rate for both. That will heavily sway the stats.

If say 10/50 whites are arrested where as 25/50 blacks are arrested then you would need to apply a fractional adjustment to the statics.

In my younger days, I was coming home from a desert storm return party. I was pulled off the road peeing. Cop got me. I was .24 , open bottle and weapons in the car . He let me call someone and let me go.

Being white rocks

[Boiler 46,397]

I accept that you should not tar a whole group with the racist comments of one person.

Why was she not shouted down by her fellow activists, that is what confuses me.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I accept that you should not tar a whole group with the racist comments of one person.

Why was she not shouted down by her fellow activists, that is what confuses me.

Same reason why when this dude was singing and all of his boys were right there along with him. Birds of a feather flock together. And depending on who was there, that might have been an issue. Have to watch the video at home to see if it was sanctioned or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3CkL0E8RY

Edited July 29, 2016 by Stay Woke

[Boiler 46,397]

Same reason why when this dude was singing and all of his boys were right there along with him. Birds of a feather flock together. And depending on who was there, that might have been an issue. Have to watch the video at home to see if it was sanctioned or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3CkL0E8RY

Interested in your comments.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Interested in your comments.

After watching, she was talking about the media. Giving black media a chance to cover the event. But it's only 30 seconds, like so many of my VJ brethren I would like to see more in order to have better context.