Black Lives Matter, Racism: A Conservative Perspective (Larry Elder Interview)

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

This is exactly what I said and note I did not say many or most either !

And it still has to do with nothing but it is all about race.

Here is the problem:

There was no institutional racism against white people and black people that suffered racism during the civil rights era

are still alive and well and so are their children. Some white people aren't over it yet and are still in the

oppression mindset and blacks are guarded.

Chew on that for a while and perhaps the light bulb will come on of why we have a BLM movement and a 'black community'.

It is not a group that thinks alike but it is a group that not so long ago had to use different bathrooms than whites. Duh !

There is a good reason that we have a BLM given our history a few decades ago though many would have loved for things to

stay oppressive against blacks and that mindset is also alive walking the streets.

# Cause and effect. The remnant of willful oppression and it's stench still floats in the US of A today on Main Street in every town.

If you do not experience it then have a seat and find a cause to write about that does oppress you.

I never said that.

[JayJayH 546]

the point is no one goes to a fundraising rally for breast cancer and starts shouting about colon cancer. do you know anyone who has done this? why would you feel the need to tell the breast cancer awareness fund that colon cancer matters?

do you know anyone that has shown up to say, a meeting to educate about kids drowning in in-ground pools and taken over the mic to go on about kids who die in car accidents?

Kind of like the Mizzou vigil for the Orlando shooting.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/15/racial-activists-kick-gay-married-couple-out-of-orlando-vigil-for-being-white-video/

“I was really nervous to get up here because there’s a lot of white people in the crowd,” one woman states. “And that wasn’t a joke.”

“I wish this many people came out to our racial demonstrations and our Black Lives Matter movements,” she says, earning “Amens” and applause from her peers.

Again, I'm not criticizing anyone for protesting when a black person is unjustifiably shot by a police officer. I'm not saying that there is no racial bias in some police jurisdictions. I do however, think that it is fully reasonable to question BLM (and much of the left's) tactics in addressing the problem. They're not divisive because they protest, they're divisive because their narrative is based largely in sensationalism, while ignoring underlying contributing factors.

I wouldn't show up to a breast cancer rally and ask why they "exclude" those who suffer from colon cancer. I would however, question anyone who argued that misogyny is the largest underlying cause of cancer.

And it still has to do with nothing but it is all about race.

Here is the problem:

There was no institutional racism against white people and black people that suffered racism during the civil rights era

are still alive and well and so are their children. Some white people aren't over it yet and are still in the

oppression mindset and blacks are guarded.

Chew on that for a while and perhaps the light bulb will come on of why we have a BLM movement and a 'black community'.

It is not a group that thinks alike but it is a group that not so long ago had to use different bathrooms than whites. Duh !

There is a good reason that we have a BLM given our history a few decades ago though many would have loved for things to

stay oppressive against blacks and that mindset is also alive walking the streets.

# Cause and effect. The remnant of willful oppression and it's stench still floats in the US of A today on Main Street in every town.

If you do not experience it then have a seat and find a cause to write about that does oppress you.

I used to drive an older Cadillac and was frequently pulled over by the LAPD for non-issues, i.e. right brake light was out. When the (mostly white, Hispanic or Asian) officer saw I was a middle-class white kid, they would literally say "never mind" or write me up a fix-it ticket and tell me "just take care of it." I've also been in the car when my black roommate was pulled over for failing to signal a turn was yelled at and interrogated as to what he was doing in "this neighborhood."

As I've said, I have no doubts that certain police jurisdictions have plenty of bad apples and issues when it comes to prejudice. I have not experienced it, but I've witnessed it. Largely, I think it is very well connected to the fact that we still have vast socioeconomic disparities in this country - Which would go a long way to explain why Asian Americans suffer less from police brutality than white Americans, who again suffer less police brutality on the whole than black Americans. As I've also stated, I do believe that black people are owed something in this country.

I do not however, agree that the color of my skin, my experiences, or lack thereof determines whether or not I can have a legitimate opinion on the methods, tactics and narrative spouted by BLM. In fact, the day people find "something else" to care about and BLM is awarded thought monopoly on "black issues" will be a sad day for democracy and I would argue, for the "black community." BLM is part of a relatively new and growing movement on the political left founded in identity politics, pandering to and dividing people up based on race - A concept which I think is an incredibly bad idea if equality is the ultimate goal.

Edited July 22, 2016 by JayJayH

[smilesammich 10,727]

Kind of like the Mizzou vigil for the Orlando shooting.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/15/racial-activists-kick-gay-married-couple-out-of-orlando-vigil-for-being-white-video/

I was really nervous to get up here because theres a lot of white people in the crowd, one woman states. And that wasnt a joke.

I wish this many people came out to our racial demonstrations and our Black Lives Matter movements, she says, earning Amens and applause from her peers.

Again, I'm not criticizing anyone for protesting when a black person is unjustifiably shot by a police officer. I'm not saying that there is no racial bias in some police jurisdictions. I do however, think that it is fully reasonable to question BLM (and much of the left's) tactics in addressing the problem. They're not divisive because they protest, they're divisive because their narrative is based largely in sensationalism, while ignoring underlying contributing factors.

I wouldn't show up to a breast cancer rally and ask why they "exclude" those who suffer from colon cancer. I would however, question anyone who argued that misogyny is the largest underlying cause of cancer.

I used to drive an older Cadillac and was frequently pulled over by the LAPD for non-issues, i.e. right brake light was out. When the (mostly white, Hispanic or Asian) officer saw I was a middle-class white kid, they would literally say "never mind" or write me up a fix-it ticket and tell me "just take care of it." I've also been in the car when my black roommate was pulled over for failing to signal a turn was yelled at and interrogated as to what he was doing in "this neighborhood."

As I've said, I have no doubts that certain police jurisdictions have plenty of bad apples and issues when it comes to prejudice. I have not experienced it, but I've witnessed it. Largely, I think it is very well connected to the fact that we still have vast socioeconomic disparities in this country - Which would go a long way to explain why Asian Americans suffer less from police brutality than white Americans, who again suffer less police brutality on the whole than black Americans. As I've also stated, I do believe that black people are owed something in this country.

I do not however, agree that the color of my skin, my experiences, or lack thereof determines whether or not I can have a legitimate opinion on the methods, tactics and narrative spouted by BLM. In fact, the day people find "something else" to care about and BLM is awarded thought monopoly on "black issues" will be a sad day for democracy and I would argue, for the "black community." BLM is part of a relatively new and growing movement on the political left founded in identity politics, pandering to and dividing people up based on race - A concept which I think is an incredibly bad idea if equality is the ultimate goal.

first amendment right in action can't be an incredibly bad idea. and it's your perception that blm is divisive. blm doesn't exclude white supporters.

[JayJayH 546]

Why do people have to generalize and pretend it is ALL from one group or another.

We DO have a racial problem...still....in America. President Obama has and is addressing that to make it better and it gets twisted into

he makes it worth. NOT addressing it will be status quo, keep floating down the river of de Nile. The memorial was the perfect opportunity.

The quote that Bush said: "Too often,we judge other groups by their worst examples while judging ourselves by our best intentions"

was what I posted on my FB page yesterday because it makes so much sense and I loved it.

The OP does not follow this wise motto.

We should not judge groups as a whole, police officers, blacks, whites, Muslims, but come back to the word SOME.

This is Kindergarden material, grown adults should get this. So when you bash BLM bash those who are violent

in the movement and support those who want peaceful equality, don't bash the movement.

Frankly, I think BLM is fair game for the actions of some. Why? Because BlackLivesMatter is a political organization.

I think the GOP party platform is fair game for LGBT groups. Why? Because the GOP party platform is a set of political ideas.

I think religion is fair game. Why? Because a religion is a set of ideas.

Skin color on the other hand is a completely different matter. There is no ideology behind pigmentation.

Judge an organization, an ideology or a set of ideas, none of which should be beyond criticism.

[JayJayH 546]

first amendment right in action can't be an incredibly bad idea. and it's your perception that blm is divisive. blm doesn't exclude white supporters.

Unrestricted free speech - Good idea.

The content of your speech - Idea can range from incredibly bad to incredibly good.

It is my perception that identity politics fuel ethnic nationalism, including white nationalism. Bad idea.

Edited July 23, 2016 by JayJayH

[smilesammich 10,727]

Unrestricted free speech - Good idea.

The content of your speech - Idea can range from incredibly bad to incredibly good.

It is my perception that identity politics fuel ethnic nationalism, including white nationalism. Bad idea.

ethnic nationalism that's inclusive of any ethnicity is just nationalism. blm isn't restricted to one ethnicity.you think it's a bad idea, i get it.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

ethnic nationalism that's inclusive of any ethnicity is just nationalism. blm isn't restricted to one ethnicity.you think it's a bad idea, i get it.

Boyz in the hood was on one of the pay movie channels last night. Lots of good boobage. Ice cube is so mainstream now. It was almost comical to watch after watching are we there yet and are we done yet

[OriZ 3,157]

List of ten most 'dangerous' dogs

I have 2 Malamutes previously.

They are the most friendly dogs, hence they make poor guard dogs.

Sometimes people do not know how to 'approach' dogs properly, causing the dogs to snap / bite them 'unintentionally'.

There are no bad dogs, only bad owners.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Boyz in the hood was on one of the pay movie channels last night. Lots of good boobage. Ice cube is so mainstream now. It was almost comical to watch after watching are we there yet and are we done yet

i haven't seen are we there yet or the second but ice cube was called a sellout by some for doing boyz in the hood. i watched that movie so many time back then, i still have it memorized. it's forever stamped in my brain. boyz in the hood and edward scissorhands. lol

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

As for dogs. I will trust my friend that has a PHD in animal behavior and two books, when he says pit Bulls as a breed, he would not recommend. He said it very reluctantly from a professional prospective, but just it's not worth the risk. Not that every pit bull is bad.

[JayJayH 546]

ethnic nationalism that's inclusive of any ethnicity is just nationalism. blm isn't restricted to one ethnicity.you think it's a bad idea, i get it.

I'm really not worried about black empowerment within the realms of democratic ideals. I think that's a good thing. I'm not worried about multiethnic nationalism. I think that's a very good thing.

I'm terrified of the growth of white nationalism. Never in history has ethnic nationalism among majority populations been a good thing for minorities.

I think we differ in our views of what BLM represents. On paper, the pure message that "black lives matter just as much as any other life" is perfectly legitimate. But the BLM movement is largely unorganized, heavily politicized and has become a rallying point for racist social justice wackos on the far left whose rhetoric has given rise to a resurgence in white nationalism in the same way racism in the 60s gave rise to militant black liberation movements.

I'm not a huge fan of conservative publications, but this article should be mandatory to anyone with an interest in ending racial inequality: http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/23/how-anti-white-rhetoric-is-fueling-white-nationalism/

Edited July 23, 2016 by JayJayH

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

There are no bad dogs, only bad owners.

[OriZ 3,157]

Awww he/she looks so innocent, too. Are they amish?

[TBoneTX 45,284]

Had [...] Dalmatians

Historical note: In 1894, the first Dalmatian was spotted.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Here's blm, helping some old white dude understand he has been enjoying his "white privilege" far too long. Another message of peace? Trying to show the cops that... Oh wait, it isn't about the cops.

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