Learning to Live With Islamic Terrorism, in France and Beyond

[ExPatty 502]

http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-07-15/learning-to-live-with-islamic-terrorism-in-france-and-beyond

France's prime minister. Calling for unity in the face of terror, Manuel Valls observed: "Times have changed, and we should learn to live with terrorism. We have to show solidarity and collective calm."

I am guessing this view will fly like a lead balloon. Hope he doesn't plan on running for reelection any time soon. The article goes on to say France is monitoring the communications of many young muslims, and yet this attack still happened; ergo, it couldn't have been prevented, as if there is nothing else that can be done.

And yet, French unity is cracking, so sayeth: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-15/attack-in-nice-draws-barbs-from-opposition-after-year-of-silence

Edited July 16, 2016 by TBoneTX
to remove offensive generalization

[EyeofNewt 4]

The new normal. Thanks Democrat voters.

A vote for Hillary will get your kids run over next 4th of July by a truck.

[John Miller 761]

The French -- edited by VJ Moderation will defend their liberty much more forcefully than Americans who have buckled in the age of terrorism and given up many of their personal freedoms and liberties in the name of "security". Now America is contemplating shutting down, expelling an entire religion and basically shredding the parts of the Constitution that protect personal freedom and liberty for the fear or terrorism. And you want to make fun of the French? Please!

Edited July 16, 2016 by TBoneTX

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

We have saved the French -- edited by VJ Moderation on more than one occasion from brutal occupation. All we have ever asked is for a place to bury our dead

Edited July 16, 2016 by TBoneTX

[John Miller 761]

It really shows a lack of respect for the victims to speak ill of this proud nation on this day.

Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité

[yuna628 9,687]

Without the French, there would be no America.

[John Miller 761]

Without the French, there would be no America.

True dat.

[Boiler 45,756]

To be fair it is not just France threatened by Islam. We are all victims.

[TBoneTX 45,659]

Sorry, guys -- had to edit out a term and image that flew in the face of a TOS provision. Thanks for understanding.

[ExPatty 502]

Sorry, guys -- had to edit out a term and image that flew in the face of a TOS provision. Thanks for understanding.

Saying I understand is presumptuous; I don't.

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I honestly, truly have no idea what goes against TOS. It's clear many others don't, either. And frankly I can't be bothered to learn because it isn't even consistent. I never know when you guys will freak out over something big or small. Way, way too touchy. If you're going to be this touchy you ought to simply remove the CEHST topic entirely. The amount of edits and bans you guys drop is over the top. In other forums I have thousands upon thousands of posts with nary a complaint because the mods aren't trying to fashion some patronizing safe space constantly for special snowflakes. In this case I don't even think a snowflake complained.

comment:

for understanding why that term is unacceptable, please refer to this portion of the TOS:

Post Content intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a broad demographic or group of people identified by a unifying trait or characteristic (discrimination). For instance, racist or sexist content may be considered hate speech.

making negative broad brush comments about an entire country fall under this.

Edited July 16, 2016 by charles!

[Boiler 45,756]

Mods are Gods.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I look it a bit different and many may not agree. However I think a polite, sorry guys but and a gentle edit is a user friendly fundamental shift in the right direction. Thr action probably initiated from a compliant from some safe zone minded prickly Uber offended person with an agenda that somehow associated white Frenchman with Monkeys as racial.

The old method would have been a wordy condescending post in which they talked to you like a third grader and deleted the post or suspended someone. This new method in my humble opinion is what we have been asking for.

I am sure the edit and polite response took more effort than a cut and paste reply and simple delte.

Anyway just my 2 cents worth. It takes both sides to make things work.

[lostinblue 1,989]

Very shortly the Kenyan will "welcome the insight and logic of the leaders of France in this standoff against terrorism of all types".

[ExPatty 502]

I look it a bit different and many may not agree. However I think a polite, sorry guys but and a gentle edit is a user friendly fundamental shift in the right direction. Thr action probably initiated from a compliant from some safe zone minded prickly Uber offended person with an agenda that somehow associated white Frenchman with Monkeys as racial.

The old method would have been a wordy condescending post in which they talked to you like a third grader and deleted the post or suspended someone. This new method in my humble opinion is what we have been asking for.

I am sure the edit and polite response took more effort than a cut and paste reply and simple delte.

Anyway just my 2 cents worth. It takes both sides to make things work.

Perhaps. In any case, I'm simply tired of posts that are not caustic and not personal attacks being constantly [and inconsistently] edited due to contradicting with a nebulous TOS, and without me even being sanctioned (because, let's be honest, it didn't contradict with the TOS). Too many crocodile tears, far, far too much enabling of people with stunted self-esteems who cry over minutiae that adjusted adults shouldn't flinch at. In just the last 2-3 days it's happened twice. If this place wants to be a progressive echo chamber, it's doing a good job of it.

I absolutely don't think this place is equipped with the tools and culture necessary to have a meaningful forum on current events. You can't discuss a bunch of people being massacred, for example, without some uncomfortable associated arguments.

I won't be changing to appease this, and I won't be clicking any "I acknowledge" type sanctions again, either. Keep fighting the good fight, but I'm changing my theater; I'm out.

[lostinblue 1,989]