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I don't know enough about Turkish politics to know which side to root for . Someone break it down neat and short

Ataturk who created modern turkey wanted a secular gov-put it in the constitution that the military can overturn the gov if becomes too religious.

Erdogan , a dictator, has been removing military leaders who oppose him (he supports fundamental Islam ), and changed the constitution in his favour I believe .

Boris Johnson's great grandfather was Ali Kemal, the puppet of a puppet.

Not sure who is leading the rebellion as of yet.

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I don't know enough about Turkish politics to know which side to root for . Someone break it down neat and short

It sounds like, some military people tried something and it didn't work so well or they're not sure. The police support the Pres.. some of the military support the coup, and some of the older top ranking brass don't? I've heard the Parliament has been bombed, and civilians have been attacked by whomever entities are involved in the coup. There are some entities in Turkey blaming a Imam from the US for starting this. On Twitter some civilians have been tracking the Turkish Pres' plane, which they claim is heading back to Istanbul, implying the coup may be over. I just want to know who is controlling the nukes and fighter jets, because the US doesn't sound too sure?

It's extremely unstable right now, but there have been many foreign policy publications that have warned of this coming for some time. There are some that say if this is thwarted that it may have been an orchestrated plot by him.. to root out plotters and install more hardcore Islamists in his ranks. Some amazing videos on social media of gun fights and all sorts of craziness.

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Ataturk who created modern turkey wanted a secular gov-put it in the constitution that the military can overturn the gov if becomes too religious.

Erdogan , a dictator, has been removing military leaders who oppose him (he supports fundamental Islam ), and changed the constitution in his favour I believe .

Boris Johnson's great grandfather was Ali Kemal, the puppet of a puppet.

Not sure who is leading the rebellion as of yet.

Thank you. That was clear, short and very informative.

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Ataturk who created modern turkey wanted a secular gov-put it in the constitution that the military can overturn the gov if becomes too religious.

Erdogan , a dictator, has been removing military leaders who oppose him (he supports fundamental Islam ), and changed the constitution in his favour I believe .

Boris Johnson's great grandfather was Ali Kemal, the puppet of a puppet.

Not sure who is leading the rebellion as of yet.

So they are trying to remove a Dictator. A govt based solely on religious whims is bad, no matter the Religion. If not mistaken that is why our founders fled to America

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I don't know enough about Turkish politics to know which side to root for . Someone break it down neat and short

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/602533-turkish-military-in-attempted-coup-prime-minister-says/?p=8225473

I'm rooting for the military.

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Looks like a failed attempt anyway - bummer. But it could get the ball rolling. More and more people are growing tired with Erdogan's antics, and the military, traditionally the "guardian" of Turkey's secular democracy, might try again in the future it would not surprise me. It's almost its "job" - there have been 4 successful attempts between 1960 and 1997 so this is nothing new.

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Forces loyal to the Turkish government fought on Saturday to crush the remnants of a military coup attempt which crumbled after crowds answered President Tayyip Erdogan's call to take to the streets and dozens of rebels abandoned their tanks.

Ninety people were killed, including many civilians after a faction of the armed forces tried to seize power using tanks and attack helicopters. Some strafed the headquarters of Turkish intelligence and parliament in the capital, Ankara, and others seized a major bridge in Istanbul.

Erdogan appeared to accuse the coup plotters of trying to kill him and said he would purge the armed forces, which in the past have staged a number of successful coups, although not for more than 30 years.

"They will pay a heavy price for this," he said. "This uprising is a gift from God to us because this will be a reason to cleanse our army." Later, the presidency warned on Twitter that another uprising could be staged at any time.

Turkish authorities have already detained about 1,500 members of the armed forces, officials said. The chief of staff, who had been reported held hostage by the rebels, has been rescued, a senior official said.

A successful overthrow of Erdogan, who has ruled Turkey since 2003, would have marked one of the biggest shifts in the Middle East in years, transforming a major U.S. ally while war rages on its border.

However, a failed coup attempt could still destabilize a NATO member that lies between the European Union and the chaos of Syria, with Islamic State bombers targeting Turkish cities and the government also at war with Kurdish separatists.

Erdogan, who had been holidaying on the southwest coast when the coup was launched, flew into Istanbul before dawn on Saturday and was shown on TV outside Ataturk Airport.

Addressing a crowd of thousands of flag-waving supporters at the airport later, Erdogan said the government remained at the helm, although disturbances continued in Ankara.

Erdogan, whose Islamist-rooted ideology lies at odds with supporters of modern Turkey's secular principles, said the plotters had tried to attack him in the resort town of Marmaris.

"They bombed places I had departed right after I was gone," he said. "They probably thought we were still there."

The acting armed forces chief of staff, Umit Dundar, reported heavy casualties. Among the 90 dead were 47 civilians while a further 1,154 people had been wounded.

In a live statement broadcast on CNN Turk, Dundar said many military commanders have been taken hostage by the rebels but he declared that Turkey has "closed the chapter" on coups for good.

Erdogan's AK Party, with roots in Islamism, has long had a strained relationship with the military and nationalists. The armed forces have had a history of mounting coups to defend secularism, but have not seized power directly since 1980.

Operations involving police special forces and the military were still underway to regain control of the armed forces headquarters in Ankara, one official said.

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BBC reported 18 mins ago the coup is reported to have been quashed.

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Hey I say we need a first hand report. Somebody get Gary over here please.

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You're not getting him away from those Ankara beaches come hell or high water.

Not sure what's worse right now, a beach in Ankara or in Nice.

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"coup is a gift from God" claims Erdogan.

A new purge-3000 secular judges arrested. A radical new Turkey as Erdogan urges Islamists to stay on the streets.

Erdogan demands US arrested exiled cleric Gulen be returned.

Airbase used by US closed a few minutes ago.

And an update from Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-security-primeminister-idUSKCN0ZV2HK

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Not sure what's worse right now, a beach in Ankara or in Nice.

The beaches of Nice have nothing on the beaches of Ankara.

"coup is a gift from God" claims Erdogan.

A new purge-3000 secular judges arrested. A radical new Turkey as Erdogan urges Islamists to stay on the streets.

Erdogan demands US arrested exiled cleric Gulen be returned.

Airbase used by US closed a few minutes ago.

And an update from Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-security-primeminister-idUSKCN0ZV2HK

I am telling you, this is self made by Erdogan. He'll tighten his grip on the country and make a whacko religious place out of it, Ted Cruz is jelly as hell.

 

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