I-129F/K1 for Russian Fiance Dilemma

[orp967 3]

I'm an American citizen who just came off a whirlwind romance with a Russian girl I met about a year ago while she was visiting the US on a three-year tourist visa. About six months into the relationship we fell madly in love and wanted to be together as soon as possible so we started the K1 visa process. Unfortunately that's also when the relationship began to sour. I found out she had been lying to me about a bunch of things and trust quickly became an issue. We tried to salvage the relationship but it was too hard to rebuild trust long distance. The relationship ended two weeks ago and we're not on speaking terms. But we are about half way, maybe a little more, through the process. Our case is now at the local consulate in Russia awaiting the the application fee and appointment.

Here in lies the dilemma.. I personally want to cancel the papers on just move on but I heard when I do this that she will most likely be denied future visas because the current I-129F will show that she was trying to leave the country via marriage. I heard that this is is true for all future Russian visa attempts (tourist, work, K1's etc). Even though she was dishonest with me and the relationship didn't work out I don't want to be the cause of her not being able to ever comeback to America. I feel like this burden would weigh heavy on me for the rest of my life as she has family and friends here in America.

I need to know from people with direct knowledge of the 1-129F/K1 Visa process for Russian nationals and if what I just mentioned above is true or not.

Also any advice one what I should do in this situation would be extremely helpful.

[CaliforniaLove_ 7]

And what happens if you don't cancel the papers? Are you going to marry someone who you're not on speaking terms with?! It will cause more issues if the consulate believes she is committing marriage fraud by pursuing a K1 visa and if you just ignore it, the petition will eventually expire and be returned to USCIS. So whether you cancel it now or wait the outcome will be the same. She may experience additional questioning when applying for a visitor visa however there isn't much you can do about that.

[orp967 3]

@californialove - I would consider working through the issues we are having if the consequences of me cancelling papers is that much where she may never be able to return to America.

[aaron2020 11,651]

Cancel the K-1. What do you expect her to say at the interview? Lie that you have an ongoing relationship?

You will be wasting precious consular resources on a case that should be canceled.

[Unlockable 7,315]

First of all it is pure rubbish that a cancelled K1 will mean automatic denials for future visas. You withdrawing a K1 will not mean she won't be able to ever get a student visa if she actually qualifies. Sounds like more immigration tales.

Also, you would be committing fraud for immigration if you go through with it. Even if you got the visa for her through marriage fraud you would be legally responsible for supporting her (room and board, etc).

You want to commit illegal acts because of some hearsay?

[Penguin_ie 5,995]

She will be asked about any failed K1 at any future visa interviews, but it doesn't mean she will be denied because of them, especially since she had a tourist visa before and used it correctly. I don't think she or you have much to fear there.

That being said, it has only been two weeks, and long distance relationships ARE hard. Maybe wait another few weeks before withdrawing, just in case you do genuinely patch it up?

[orp967 3]

I appreciate all the insight but I truly don't understand how a user can come on here and tell another user what to do in this very delicate situation i.e. "cancel the K-1." There seems to be some bitterness and sensitivity to the "marriage fraud" aspect of this whole thing.

There would be nothing "fraudulent" about continuing the process. We are very much in love and I would be willing to work through some pretty big issues to make the relationship work. What relationship/marriage doesn't have it's issues??

I just posted this topic because I had questions/concerns about the consequences "if" I were to stop the process.

@nuestra_union - Do you have direct knowledge and or experience of this from the Russian perspective? It is from my understanding that visas are rarely given to young single Russian girls. There are a lot of Russian bridal scams and young Russian women looking for western husbands so the consulate is reluctant to get out visas so easy. My "fiance" has one year left on her three year tourist visa. If she applies for a new one or tries for a different visa, it will show that she tried to get married once before and for whatever reason did not go through with it. So the consulate now has reason to believe that she 'might' try it again.

@penguin_ie - Thank you were the only replier who spoke on the topic directly. Yes I agree about waiting a couple of weeks before officially drawing up the letter. Even though we haven't spoken in a couple of weeks, the last six months of the relationship had been pretty rough. I'm still very much in love with my Russian fiance but don't want to make a bad situation worse.

[Unlockable 7,315]

Bitterness and sensitivity to the marriage fraud??? IT IS ILLEGAL!

If you want to wait it out and see if you two will get back together that is one thing. But you said it yourself in your first post that you want to cancel the K1 and move on. Quote: "Here in lies the dilemma.. I personally want to cancel the papers on just move on".

And your reasoning for going through with the process to not make it difficult for other visas for her is flawed. You have been told that cancelling the K1 will likely not have an effect on future visas. Why would calling off a marriage to a USC be a problem for her to get a student visa for a Master's Degree in Political Science for example?

And if you are not together but you decide to continue to go through this process for the purpose that she can get a visa IS fraud. But if you two decide to salvage the relationship and give it a go... by all means, have at it.

[jan22 3,056]

She will have a greater chance of being issued another visa if she doesn't move forward with the K-1 that you say has "soured" and "ended". There is no repercussion to not finalizing a K-1 -- the view would be that, yes, you had an intent to immigrate to the US when you got married, but when it became clear you were not going to follow through with the marriage, you didn't move forward with the visa and go illegally (i.e., with no commitment to get married). That would actually be a positie -- showing that you will follow US immigration law.

If she tries to move forward now, and the consular officer picks up any hint of the issues between you and that the relationship has "ended" (your words), she may be found permanently ineligible for a visa.

[aaron2020 11,651]

I'm an American citizen who just came off a whirlwind romance with a Russian girl I met about a year ago while she was visiting the US on a three-year tourist visa. About six months into the relationship we fell madly in love and wanted to be together as soon as possible so we started the K1 visa process. Unfortunately that's also when the relationship began to sour. I found out she had been lying to me about a bunch of things and trust quickly became an issue. We tried to salvage the relationship but it was too hard to rebuild trust long distance. The relationship ended two weeks ago and we're not on speaking terms. But we are about half way, maybe a little more, through the process. Our case is now at the local consulate in Russia awaiting the the application fee and appointment.

Here in lies the dilemma.. I personally want to cancel the papers on just move on but I heard when I do this that she will most likely be denied future visas because the current I-129F will show that she was trying to leave the country via marriage. I heard that this is is true for all future Russian visa attempts (tourist, work, K1's etc). Even though she was dishonest with me and the relationship didn't work out I don't want to be the cause of her not being able to ever comeback to America. I feel like this burden would weigh heavy on me for the rest of my life as she has family and friends here in America.

I need to know from people with direct knowledge of the 1-129F/K1 Visa process for Russian nationals and if what I just mentioned above is true or not.

Also any advice one what I should do in this situation would be extremely helpful.

I appreciate all the insight but I truly don't understand how a user can come on here and tell another user what to do in this very delicate situation i.e. "cancel the K-1." You came here asking for advice on what to do. That's why others will advise you what to do based on your words. There seems to be some bitterness and sensitivity to the "marriage fraud" aspect of this whole thing.

There would be nothing "fraudulent" about continuing the process. We are very much in love and I would be willing to work through some pretty big issues to make the relationship work. What relationship/marriage doesn't have it's issues??

I just posted this topic because I had questions/concerns about the consequences "if" I were to stop the process.

@nuestra_union - Do you have direct knowledge and or experience of this from the Russian perspective? It is from my understanding that visas are rarely given to young single Russian girls. There are a lot of Russian bridal scams and young Russian women looking for western husbands so the consulate is reluctant to get out visas so easy. My "fiance" has one year left on her three year tourist visa. If she applies for a new one or tries for a different visa, it will show that she tried to get married once before and for whatever reason did not go through with it. So the consulate now has reason to believe that she 'might' try it again.

@penguin_ie - Thank you were the only replier who spoke on the topic directly. Yes I agree about waiting a couple of weeks before officially drawing up the letter. Even though we haven't spoken in a couple of weeks, the last six months of the relationship had been pretty rough. I'm still very much in love with my Russian fiance but don't want to make a bad situation worse.

[Delirium 114]

I appreciate all the insight but I truly don't understand how a user can come on here and tell another user what to do in this very delicate situation i.e. "cancel the K-1." There seems to be some bitterness and sensitivity to the "marriage fraud" aspect of this whole thing.

There would be nothing "fraudulent" about continuing the process. We are very much in love and I would be willing to work through some pretty big issues to make the relationship work. What relationship/marriage doesn't have it's issues??

I just posted this topic because I had questions/concerns about the consequences "if" I were to stop the process.

@nuestra_union - Do you have direct knowledge and or experience of this from the Russian perspective? It is from my understanding that visas are rarely given to young single Russian girls. There are a lot of Russian bridal scams and young Russian women looking for western husbands so the consulate is reluctant to get out visas so easy. My "fiance" has one year left on her three year tourist visa. If she applies for a new one or tries for a different visa, it will show that she tried to get married once before and for whatever reason did not go through with it. So the consulate now has reason to believe that she 'might' try it again.

@penguin_ie - Thank you were the only replier who spoke on the topic directly. Yes I agree about waiting a couple of weeks before officially drawing up the letter. Even though we haven't spoken in a couple of weeks, the last six months of the relationship had been pretty rough. I'm still very much in love with my Russian fiance but don't want to make a bad situation worse.

You said yourself that you want to cancel the papers and move on? You can't really get upset at other users who are saying the exact same thing that you yourself said you wish to do. Either cancel them or don't. But don't call a user bitter for stating the same thing you said about the situation.

Also, marriage fraud is a very real offence. Not a sensitivity. If immigration services found out that your case was not based on a genuine relationship, you both would be facing jail time and 250k in penalties...each.

"Here in lies the dilemma.. I personally want to cancel the papers on just move on "

Edited July 9, 2016 by Delirium

[Rc123rc 528]

I'm an American citizen who just came off a whirlwind romance with a Russian girl I met about a year ago while she was visiting the US on a three-year tourist visa. About six months into the relationship we fell madly in love and wanted to be together as soon as possible so we started the K1 visa process. Unfortunately that's also when the relationship began to sour. I found out she had been lying to me about a bunch of things and trust quickly became an issue. We tried to salvage the relationship but it was too hard to rebuild trust long distance. The relationship ended two weeks ago and we're not on speaking terms. But we are about half way, maybe a little more, through the process. Our case is now at the local consulate in Russia awaiting the the application fee and appointment.

Here in lies the dilemma.. I personally want to cancel the papers on just move on but I heard when I do this that she will most likely be denied future visas because the current I-129F will show that she was trying to leave the country via marriage. I heard that this is is true for all future Russian visa attempts (tourist, work, K1's etc). Even though she was dishonest with me and the relationship didn't work out I don't want to be the cause of her not being able to ever comeback to America. I feel like this burden would weigh heavy on me for the rest of my life as she has family and friends here in America.

I need to know from people with direct knowledge of the 1-129F/K1 Visa process for Russian nationals and if what I just mentioned above is true or not.

Also any advice one what I should do in this situation would be extremely helpful.

1) No Trust

2) Not speaking to each other

3) Whirlwind Romance

4) Long Distance Relationship

5) OP personally wants to cancel the papers.

6) OP Is having guilt about something that wasn't his fault unless there is more the story.

7) OP doesn't want her to be denied to come back to the US in the future. Possible reconciliation trips?

All I can say is K-1 applications are withdrawn all the time with no consequences to foreign fiancee. All visas must have adequate proof and documentation. Non-immigrant visa stress ties to home country. She needs to worry about that more than anything else for tourist or school visa. So, she just needs to do to what she would normally do for whatever visa she seeks.

[Cathi 5,771]

why bother asking for advice about a petition that YOU STATED you want to cancel, if you are only going to attack the people you are seeking so-called advice from? If you don't want advice, don't ask. It's really that simple. And FYI going through with a petition/visa with a person you are no longer involved with IS fraud. Your call.

[Scandi 4,173]

orp967: "Also any advice one what I should do in this situation would be extremely helpful."

orp967: "I appreciate all the insight but I truly don't understand how a user can come on here and tell another user what to do in this very delicate situation"

Edited July 9, 2016 by Scandi

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

If she has already lied to you chances are she will lie again. I wouldnt care what her future imigration attempts would be. (But it shows you are a very nice person). Sorry this happend to you but to continue will prob bring up more lies.

I dont think anyone is purpously being bitter towards you but the sutiation it self is a bitterpill.

Good luck