A Black Man Legally Carrying A Gun Was Wrongly Labeled A Suspect By Dallas Police

[smilesammich 10,727]

I can. You know if there was any sympathy for these two black guys at all that were shot and killed, it's been completely evaporated. This shooting has justified their deaths and any other deaths and mistreatment coming our way.

yeah you're right. nothing's shocking really. blm has been sufficiently villainized,

[yuna628 9,750]

I will also point out you can still go to the DPD twitter page and find the same posts accusing Mr Hughes of being a suspect, it has been shared and retweeted thousands of times. and further shared on other news sites who have still left those posts up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/08/during-deadly-dallas-shooting-confusion-swirled-around-armed-man-carrying-a-rifle/

While Hughes was being held, he said that police questioned him about why he wanted to shoot cops. After his release, Hughes told CBS 11 that the police said witnesses saw Hughes firing the rifle. That “is a lie,” Hughes said. “I mean at the end of the day, the system is trying to get me.” Cory Hughes said the police confiscated his brother’s clothes and gun.

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During a televised news conference early Friday, lawyers for the brothers said Mark Hughes was carrying his gun legally, though may be apprehensive about doing so in the future. They argued the police department’s tweet, and its subsequent spread, sowed confusion and put their lives at risk.

“They have received thousands of death threats already,” said attorney Corwyn Davis during the conference. “Unfortunately, there was a lot of negligence with that picture.” Davis said it was also unclear when or if the Hughes brothers were read their Miranda rights at the police station.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

yeah you're right. nothing's shocking really. blm has been sufficiently villainized,

Yep. Two things have been accomplished with one stone. They've removed any innocence from both victims from the police killings AND made BLM a police hate group. Now when cops attack/kill black folks for the slightest infraction, this incident will replay in the minds of people and they will say it was our fault.

I will also point out you can still go to the DPD twitter page and find the same posts accusing Mr Hughes of being a suspect, it has been shared and retweeted thousands of times. and further shared on other news sites who have still left those posts up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/08/during-deadly-dallas-shooting-confusion-swirled-around-armed-man-carrying-a-rifle/

And no rush to clear his name. Yeah, they really care about doing what's right...

[smilesammich 10,727]

And no rush to clear his name. Yeah, they really care about doing what's right...

it's sending out the message they want out there.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I have chosen to not weigh in on the threads concerning the two recent police shootings, or this thread, choosing instead to wait until more facts come in regarding them all. I find it disconcerting all the rush to judgments and attempts to fit these types of incidents into a one size fits all narrative.

Thus far I think the Louisiana shooting appears harsh but possibly justified. I don't think anyone can be sure that it was or wasn't at this point.

Thus far I think the Minnesota shooting appears to be lacking justification, but at the same time, how on earth is the man's girlfriend live streaming video while her boyfriend is bleeding out and her 4 year old is sitting in the backseat? Insane!

How the above two incidents may have been motivation for the shooting of police officers in Dallas is obviously impossible to know at this time, the conversations and postings in this and other related threads is an excellent snapshot of the wider division of perspectives when these events take place.

Have persons of color, specifically Black people historically been badly treated by law enforcement? Of course, and that is a problem that continues to this day.

Having said that, there is no bounty on people of Color, specifically Black people. Most of the stories recently that have created initial controversy have turned out to be justified police actions. The deceased having taken numerous steps that lead up to getting shot. Sometimes not. But we continue to get knee-jerk reactions on both sides of the spectrum that seems to be fostering the kind of anger that may have contributed to the Dallas police shootings.

I think it's important to take a deep breath when these stories come out and let the facts lead where they will. I'm sure that I will continue to be disappointed though in that hope.

[ManCharsey 254]

Like Sterling and Castile, Hughes was legally carrying a firearm

In the case of Sterling, with two previous gun charges, registered sex offender on the state website (diddling a 14-yr-old girl), and a conviction for domestic battery he had no business and no right to either possess or carry a gun under the VAWA.

He had a 20-yr unbroken history of crime up to his drug charges a month before he was shot for threatening someone with the gun that he has no business carrying.

I really take offense when liberals try to mold this man into some kind of victim because of his skin color. He threatened someone with a deadly weapon and got shot while the cops were trying to take him down for doing it. Good riddance.

As to the guy in MInnesota, that looks like a flat out case of murder and the sooner they convene the grand jury the better.

As for Hughes, do you seriously believe it is unreasonable to want to question a man dressed like this and walking around like this with an assault rifle right before someone opened up and started shooting police officers with an assault rifle? He was questioned, cleared, and let go.

It does and is doing the black community no good at all to lump every interaction with every black person equally

You are part of the reason why this country is the way it is.

Just because someone has a criminal history does not mean the police has a right to kill them. This guy did not even draw his weapon. His weapon was in his POCKET..do you get it now?? IN HIS POCKET! And yet he was pinned to the ground and shot at point blank range. And you sit here defending what the police did. This is so sickening that we have a lot of people like you thinking it is fine to murder and kill people just because they have a criminal past.

The rule is - unless your life is in immediate danger (the person is trying to harm you), there is no point in killing another person. Hopefully you realize how racist your statement was..and I am white.

[ManCharsey 254]

And this is why we can't have nice things.

The point is, and always will be, if you're being arrested, there are still rules to follow. His record has no bearing on him selling CD's and being pinned on the ground while being shot in the chest. Now, if you're going to use that logic, then EVERY SINGLE MASS SHOOTER that sits in jail right now should be taken outside and killed. Because those dudes murdered people, cops even, which I think have a bit more weight than Mr. Shelton's criminal history.

Thank you for being wise. The big problem in this country is, there is a lot of police brutality in this country regardless of race. The media makes it look like it is racial in nature which causes this racial tension we currently have and makes one race numb to the feelings of another race.

Just look at the statistics online and you will realize that there are a LOT of unarmed white men being killed more than even unarmed black men. We all need to join forces - white, black, latino etc and speak out against this epidemic and not be numb because 'we think' it's affecting one race and not the other.

Black Lives Matter. White Lives Matter. Latino lives matter. Every life in the US matters and we do not have to give the police a pass to commit these killing sprees with impunity.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I have chosen to not weigh in on the threads concerning the two recent police shootings, or this thread, choosing instead to wait until more facts come in regarding them all. I find it disconcerting all the rush to judgments and attempts to fit these types of incidents into a one size fits all narrative.

Thus far I think the Louisiana shooting appears harsh but possibly justified. I don't think anyone can be sure that it was or wasn't at this point.

Thus far I think the Minnesota shooting appears to be lacking justification, but at the same time, how on earth is the man's girlfriend live streaming video while her boyfriend is bleeding out and her 4 year old is sitting in the backseat? Insane!

How the above two incidents may have been motivation for the shooting of police officers in Dallas is obviously impossible to know at this time, the conversations and postings in this and other related threads is an excellent snapshot of the wider division of perspectives when these events take place.

Have persons of color, specifically Black people historically been badly treated by law enforcement? Of course, and that is a problem that continues to this day.

Having said that, there is no bounty on people of Color, specifically Black people. Most of the stories recently that have created initial controversy have turned out to be justified police actions. The deceased having taken numerous steps that lead up to getting shot. Sometimes not. But we continue to get knee-jerk reactions on both sides of the spectrum that seems to be fostering the kind of anger that may have contributed to the Dallas police shootings.

I think it's important to take a deep breath when these stories come out and let the facts lead where they will. I'm sure that I will continue to be disappointed though in that hope.

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on a few points:

The Louisiana shooting wasn't justified bc he was on his stomach and had his hands held down. But I wager after this Dallas shooting, there's no way they're going to convict the cops.

As for your question, she did that because she had to. What you have to understand is this. When you say we're treated badly by law enforcement, it's an understatement. Folks really don't know how bad it really is until they've lived it. She did that to probably keep her alive, since it's been seen time and time again without video, they will kill us and swear we were trying to kill them. Mcdonald, that guy who was shot in the back and they planted evidence, and countless others, have shown even with a camera rolling, they snuff us out without any remorse. That's why I can't stand to hear comments about complying and staying alive. I've been a victim of PB and I complied the whole time while that cop tried to used my face as a punching bag. No resistance, no crime, no criminal background. That's what people don't understand about being black in this country. It's so dominant in our community that when someone says something about it, it's like meh, at least they didn't kill you. When white people experience it, we be like you're upset? WE DEAL WITH THIS EVERYDAY! I

As for your bounty comment, take a look at this:

http://www.essence.com/2016/07/08/nypd-officers-say-fellow-cops-go-hunting-citizens-color

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Thank you for being wise. The big problem in this country is, there is a lot of police brutality in this country regardless of race. The media makes it look like it is racial in nature which causes this racial tension we currently have and makes one race numb to the feelings of another race.

Just look at the statistics online and you will realize that there are a LOT of unarmed white men being killed more than even unarmed black men. We all need to join forces - white, black, latino etc and speak out against this epidemic and not be numb because 'we think' it's affecting one race and not the other.

Black Lives Matter. White Lives Matter. Latino lives matter. Every life in the US matters and we do not have to give the police a pass to commit these killing sprees with impunity.

Police brutality is an issue that affects all races, but here's the problem. We will never come together and speak out against it because white people(as a whole, not individually) won't do it since it would validate what black people have been saying about it for decades. For the most part white America has no issues with LEO since unless they've experienced it personally, they tend to live by the comply to arrive mantra, which works for them, for the most part. If cops started doing this to white people and it happened on camera in a span of 24 hours, I'd wager the tide would shift, but as long as it is a problem within minority communities, the majority is going to keep silent.

I believe that white men are killed more, but you notice how white people(not you) are still silent? I've brought this up before, how even though they're more likely to go through this, they're also the most ardent defenders of the same folks killing them.

If BLM could become ALM, that would be great, but I know racism and ignorance runs rampant. Until folks educate themselves and learn to have compassion for their fellow man, this will continue.

And to be clear it is about race, because we know black people are viewed as less of a human being than any other race here. That's something I know for a fact. That's the whole point of BLM, not that we matter more than anyone else, but just like everyone else.

Edited July 8, 2016 by Stay Woke

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Someone getting targeted for open carry by the police is hardly news. Happens all the time , latterly hundreds of videos on you tube, several that have been posted here thru the years and they were demonized by the same crowd that is so outraged now.

More race baiting by the usual .

[ManCharsey 254]

Police brutality is an issue that affects all races, but here's the problem. We will never come together and speak out against it because white people(as a whole, not individually) won't do it since it would validate what black people have been saying about it for decades. For the most part white America has no issues with LEO since unless they've experienced it personally, they tend to live by the comply to arrive mantra, which works for them, for the most part. If cops started doing this to white people and it happened on camera in a span of 24 hours, I'd wager the tide would shift, but as long as it is a problem within minority communities, the majority is going to keep silent.

I believe that white men are killed more, but you notice how white people(not you) are still silent? I've brought this up before, how even though they're more likely to go through this, they're also the most ardent defenders of the same folks killing them.

If BLM could become ALM, that would be great, but I know racism and ignorance runs rampant. Until folks educate themselves and learn to have compassion for their fellow man, this will continue.

And to be clear it is about race, because we know black people are viewed as less of a human being than any other race here. That's something I know for a fact. That's the whole point of BLM, not that we matter more than anyone else, but just like everyone else.

What you said is the absolute truth.

I have personally had to explain the BLM phrase to a lot of my white folk friends and family who don't get it. It's not about Black Lives Matter more than any other race, it is about Black Lives Matter as much as white lives.

The common expression from white folks when killings like this happen is 'but what about all the black on black killings going on in Chicago etc. blah blah'..that is the single most ignorant statement ever. What about all the white on white killings. There are an equal number if not more white on white killings as well. Fact is, most crimes are perpetrated towards people of the same race..so yes, you will have more latino on latino crimes, white on white crimes, black on black crimes etc. the underlying fact however is it gives the police absolutely no right to kill or abuse any race because of these stupid reasons.

It's like abusing a kid because the kid comes from an abusive home so you use that to justify your actions. Doesn't make sense.

There are a lot of good cops out there but there are a LOT of police that are bullies, racist and think they are above the law.

White people need to wake up and speak up against this epidemic and not think we are exempt because it is a black problem only. NO it is not..just google the murder rates by police and you will see how an equal number of WHITE people are getting gunned down by the police for absolutely no reasons. Black people are taking action on it. White people need to wake the hell up and do same too!!!! I'm sick and tired of the racist and polarized nature of this country!!

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Someone getting targeted for open carry by the police is hardly news. Happens all the time , latterly hundreds of videos on you tube, several that have been posted here thru the years and they were demonized by the same crowd that is so outraged now.

More race baiting by the usual .

Then you should post the ones where those folks get apprehended, questioned, and released without the polive clearing things up.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Here is one of the more famous.if I had time and was home I could post 20 or 30 in short order. This guy was an E 8 in the Army.

Not only was it not cleared up he was prosecuted.

Of course he was not black so it did not get the kind of attention this case is getting. Bottom line is it will not matter to you because the only thing you see in anything is race.

http://m.kdhnews.com/news/crime/grisham-found-guilty-in-temple-gun-case-trial/article_7c15b956-5173-11e3-a888-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

What you said is the absolute truth.

I have personally had to explain the BLM phrase to a lot of my white folk friends and family who don't get it. It's not about Black Lives Matter more than any other race, it is about Black Lives Matter as much as white lives.

The common expression from white folks when killings like this happen is 'but what about all the black on black killings going on in Chicago etc. blah blah'..that is the single most ignorant statement ever. What about all the white on white killings. There are an equal number if not more white on white killings as well. Fact is, most crimes are perpetrated towards people of the same race..so yes, you will have more latino on latino crimes, white on white crimes, black on black crimes etc. the underlying fact however is it gives the police absolutely no right to kill or abuse any race because of these stupid reasons.

It's like abusing a kid because the kid comes from an abusive home so you use that to justify your actions. Doesn't make sense.

There are a lot of good cops out there but there are a LOT of police that are bullies, racist and think they are above the law.

White people need to wake up and speak up against this epidemic and not think we are exempt because it is a black problem only. NO it is not..just google the murder rates by police and you will see how an equal number of WHITE people are getting gunned down by the police for absolutely no reasons. Black people are taking action on it. White people need to wake the hell up and do same too!!!! I'm sick and tired of the racist and polarized nature of this country!!

It's funny because Muslims are told everyday they need to police their own and do something about the radicals that hide within their ranks, but good cops are never asked to root out the rotten apples in their precincts.

I'd like to see us come together to end this nightmare, but it's not going to happen anytime soon. Over 400 years of racial hatred has seen to it. It's going to take just as long, if not longer to correct this.

[ManCharsey 254]

Here is one of the more famous.if I had time and was home I could post 20 or 30 in short order. This guy was an E 8 in the Army.

Not only was it not cleared up he was prosecuted.

Of course he was not black so it did not get the kind of attention this case is getting. Bottom line is it will not matter to you because the only thing you see in anything is race.

http://m.kdhnews.com/news/crime/grisham-found-guilty-in-temple-gun-case-trial/article_7c15b956-5173-11e3-a888-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm

Are you really serious?? There is an epidemic of police brutality across ALL races and you just choose to see things through racial lenses. This is why issues like this never get resolved in this country..It's not a Black vrs white thing..stop looking at things through that lens, it's very racist. There are a LOT of police in this country that are abusing their power and need to be checked. We white folks need to wake up and speak up against it as well and not be taking the position of 'well it's a black people problem so I don't care'..no you should because next time, it will be your sweet little white kid who is shot in the head for talking back at a police officer. That 'comply and everything will be alright' rhetoric is pure BS. Black people have been complying all their lives and where has it taken them to..They only end up dead at the hands of some racist and bigoted white police man..and all we white folks do is blame the victim! This is sickening!

Edited July 8, 2016 by ManCharsey