Co-sponsor for K-1 Visa

[Wisconsinbound 1]

Hello there, I have a quick question about sponsoring my fiance' for the K-1 Visa.

For our initial application we are following this guide to the letter: http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide

However we also included some extra pictures, and 4 pages worth of our text messages. (According to Whatsapp+Microsoft Word we have 1200+ pages of text, so we only included the first two, and last two pages of messages).

However, I have a quick question about having a co-sponsor for our application. This has 100% to do with my finances.

Currently I make ~$17,000USD annually with a stable government job (in the education system for 10+ years).

However! I also collect $5,400USD annually through child support, as well as ~$4,500 through SSI. (This is because I have a son who lives with me, and has a recognized disability.)

Furthermore, I own a house in Wisconsin, and at the time of filing, with have no debts other than a mortgage. (I own a paid off vehicle, and have a 800+ credit score)

On the I-134, as well as the I-864 there is only the opportunity to declare income which I earn at my job, which puts us below the 3 person poverty line. That also not even included in the initial submission of the I-129F, which could deny us before we even get to the I-134! based on http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1flow

But what's unfortunate, is that this clearly doesn't illustrate the full picture of my financial situation. In any case, my finance and I are not looking to take any chances here, and are entertaining the idea of having my mother be a co-sponsor. Her financial situation is very good $50,000+USD annually. When/how could we indicate this to USCIS? Could we submit some paperwork with the initial application indicating that we intend to have a co-sponsor? And if so, what should we submit?

Also, my fiance is employed in Canada (by an American company funnily enough) and has a steady income of $52,000+CAD, (as well as no debts and $6000+ in savings already) which allows us to comfortably live with him unemployed until his AOS comes through once we are married in the USA.

Is there any way to indicate any of this to the USCIS? I would hate to have us be denied for the K-1 application solely based on the fact that my primary income is ~$17,000 (which again, doesn't show the almost $11,000 which I actually see, not to mention all of our other positive merits)

Thank you so much!

Edited July 2, 2016 by Wisconsinbound

[zorus40k 21]

However, I have a quick question about having a co-sponsor for our application. This has 100% to do with my finances.

Currently I make ~$17,000USD annually with a stable government job (in the education system for 10+ years).

However! I also collect $5,400USD annually through child support, as well as ~$4,500 through SSI. (This is because I have a son who lives with me, and has a recognized disability.)

Furthermore, I own a house in Wisconsin, and at the time of filing, with have no debts other than a mortgage. (I own a paid off vehicle, and have a 800+ credit score)

On the I-134, as well as the I-864 there is only the opportunity to declare income which I earn at my job, which puts us below the 3 person poverty line. That also not even included in the initial submission of the I-129F, which could deny us before we even get to the I-134! based on http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1flow

But what's unfortunate, is that this clearly doesn't illustrate the full picture of my financial situation. In any case, my finance and I are not looking to take any chances here, and are entertaining the idea of having my mother be a co-sponsor. Her financial situation is very good $50,000+USD annually. When/how could we indicate this to USCIS? Could we submit some paperwork with the initial application indicating that we intend to have a co-sponsor? And if so, what should we submit?

Also, my fiance is employed in Canada (by an American company funnily enough) and has a steady income of $52,000+CAD, (as well as no debts and $6000+ in savings already) which allows us to comfortably live with him unemployed until his AOS comes through once we are married in the USA.

Is there any way to indicate any of this to the USCIS? I would hate to have us be denied for the K-1 application solely based on the fact that my primary income is ~$17,000 (which again, doesn't show the almost $11,000 which I actually see, not to mention all of our other positive merits)

Thank you so much!

Your mom need to be fill form I-864 and in your affidavit you list her as a joint sponsor if you're not sure in your financial situation and your current household size+fiance does not meet your state's poverty guidelines. And with her income it should be more than enough.

btw owning house with mortgage and any other kind of debt influences affidavit.

if you make 4k monthly let's say and you have 3.5k worth of due payments in various debts, for uscis your income will be only 0.5k

so having joint sponsor is a good thing

They take into account only your financial situation (and your joint sponsors) because during k1 process and aos your fiance will not be able to work legally here.

[Wisconsinbound 1]

Your mom need to be fill form I-864 and in your affidavit you list her as a joint sponsor if you're not sure in your financial situation and your current household size+fiance does not meet your state's poverty guidelines. And with her income it should be more than enough.

btw owning house with mortgage and any other kind of debt influences affidavit.

if you make 4k monthly let's say and you have 3.5k worth of due payments in various debts, for uscis your income will be only 0.5k

so having joint sponsor is a good thing

They take into account only your financial situation (and your joint sponsors) because during k1 process and aos your fiance will not be able to work legally here.

When should we submit her I-864? With the initial submission of the I-129F package?

[zorus40k 21]

When should we submit her I-864? With the initial submission of the I-129F package?

You need to meet poverty guidelines during initial k1 process and later during AOS

so that will be both times (your and your mom's I-864) you need to gather proofs for affidavit of support

[KayDeeCee 4,895]

Your mom need to be fill form I-864 and in your affidavit you list her as a joint sponsor if you're not sure in your financial situation and your current household size+fiance does not meet your state's poverty guidelines. And with her income it should be more than enough.

btw owning house with mortgage and any other kind of debt influences affidavit.

if you make 4k monthly let's say and you have 3.5k worth of due payments in various debts, for uscis your income will be only 0.5k

so having joint sponsor is a good thing

They take into account only your financial situation (and your joint sponsors) because during k1 process and aos your fiance will not be able to work legally here.

This is absolutely incorrect information. Debts have nothing to do with the affidavit of support and sponsorship. They are never asked for, and never declared. Current annual income is just that... the total of your added up gross income from all sources.

Also, the K-1 entrant will be able to legally work during AOS because they will also file for an EAD(and AP for travel) at the same time. The EAD will allow them to work while waiting for the green card approval.

Please refrain from giving out misinformation. If you do not truly know the actual facts, then skip answering those parts.

OP> Debts and credit scores do not matter. You add all your income sources together and list them as your current annual income on the affidavit forms. You need to supply proof of all income. When using child support, you need to provide a copy of the court order and bank statements showing how much is actually deposited to your account each month. If the SSI comes in your name, you can add it in too and provide proof of it. It may or may not be counted though, but you can certainly add it in. Use a letter from employer and recent pay stubs to show proof of your job income, and supply most recent tax transcript. If you do not own more than one car, then you cannot list your only vehicle. You can list your house, but you would need an appraisal and documentation of the mortgage lien in order to get the net value. Again, it may be discarded if they feel selling it would cause undue hardship on you. Read through the I-864 instructions about using assets. It is detailed.

If you use a co-sponsor, for the K-1 visa, they need to make enough for their own household plus the foreign fiance(e). They fill out their own separate I-134 and provide their own supporting documentation. The same will be true if using a joint sponsor for AOS. The joint sponsor will provide their own separate I-864 and required documents as outlined in the instructions for that form.

The I-134 is taken to the K-1 visa interview. It is not sent with the I-129F petition.

[Wisconsinbound 1]

This is absolutely incorrect information. Debts have nothing to do with the affidavit of support and sponsorship. They are never asked for, and never declared. Current annual income is just that... the total of your added up gross income from all sources.

Also, the K-1 entrant will be able to legally work during AOS because they will also file for an EAD(and AP for travel) at the same time. The EAD will allow them to work while waiting for the green card approval.

Please refrain from giving out misinformation. If you do not truly know the actual facts, then skip answering those parts.

OP> Debts and credit scores do not matter. You add all your income sources together and list them as your current annual income on the affidavit forms. You need to supply proof of all income. When using child support, you need to provide a copy of the court order and bank statements showing how much is actually deposited to your account each month. If the SSI comes in your name, you can add it in too and provide proof of it. It may or may not be counted though, but you can certainly add it in. Use a letter from employer and recent pay stubs to show proof of your job income, and supply most recent tax transcript. If you do not own more than one car, then you cannot list your only vehicle. You can list your house, but you would need an appraisal and documentation of the mortgage lien in order to get the net value. Again, it may be discarded if they feel selling it would cause undue hardship on you. Read through the I-864 instructions about using assets. It is detailed.

If you use a co-sponsor, for the K-1 visa, they need to make enough for their own household plus the foreign fiance(e). They fill out their own separate I-134 and provide their own supporting documentation. The same will be true if using a joint sponsor for AOS. The joint sponsor will provide their own separate I-864 and required documents as outlined in the instructions for that form.

The I-134 is taken to the K-1 visa interview. It is not sent with the I-129F petition.

Thank you kindly for this information. It really helps us assess our options when it comes to putting together our petition and avoiding any issues,

[Wisconsinbound 1]

This is absolutely incorrect information. Debts have nothing to do with the affidavit of support and sponsorship. They are never asked for, and never declared. Current annual income is just that... the total of your added up gross income from all sources.

Also, the K-1 entrant will be able to legally work during AOS because they will also file for an EAD(and AP for travel) at the same time. The EAD will allow them to work while waiting for the green card approval.

Please refrain from giving out misinformation. If you do not truly know the actual facts, then skip answering those parts.

OP> Debts and credit scores do not matter. You add all your income sources together and list them as your current annual income on the affidavit forms. You need to supply proof of all income. When using child support, you need to provide a copy of the court order and bank statements showing how much is actually deposited to your account each month. If the SSI comes in your name, you can add it in too and provide proof of it. It may or may not be counted though, but you can certainly add it in. Use a letter from employer and recent pay stubs to show proof of your job income, and supply most recent tax transcript. If you do not own more than one car, then you cannot list your only vehicle. You can list your house, but you would need an appraisal and documentation of the mortgage lien in order to get the net value. Again, it may be discarded if they feel selling it would cause undue hardship on you. Read through the I-864 instructions about using assets. It is detailed.

If you use a co-sponsor, for the K-1 visa, they need to make enough for their own household plus the foreign fiance(e). They fill out their own separate I-134 and provide their own supporting documentation. The same will be true if using a joint sponsor for AOS. The joint sponsor will provide their own separate I-864 and required documents as outlined in the instructions for that form.

The I-134 is taken to the K-1 visa interview. It is not sent with the I-129F petition.

One more question: For our given situation, income being what it is, these webpages should lead us down the right path? http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide as well as http://www.visajourney.com/content/assembly

We followed these to the letter, and have proof for days about the legitimacy of our relationship. We have literally around 100 pictures with us in it at least, but we opted to include our favourite 8, and a handful of text messages from the beginning of our relationship up to the most resent ones.

According to https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-us-citizens/fiancee-visa/fiancee-visas you really don't need much in order to submit a successful application, but we definitely do not want any issues with it, and want to have our immigration process proceed without a hitch. With that in mind, we're willing to over-engineer our submission in whatever manner we need to.

EDIT: In this context, we are just looking at the initial application. I reckon we will need more information to bring to the interview, such as the forms which talk about income etc, but those are irrelevant in the initial application. For us, we just need the following forms (in addition to the proof/photos):

1. I-129F

2x 2. G-325a (One for me, one for her)

3. G-1145 (optional, but we are doing it)

Edited July 28, 2016 by Wisconsinbound