AOS Help!!! for Co-sponsor.

[Dale Ferguson 1]

My wife and I are petitioning for my wife's father and mother. I am a USC and my wife is a Naturalized Citizen. I understand my wife files the I-864 as the sponsor. But she does not work and has filed a joint return with me for the last 4 years. I make enough money to co-sponsor her parents. What form do I use? The I-864 or the I-864a form? Thank you very much for your help!

[Dale Ferguson 1]

Thanks! that was what I needed to know!!! and fast!

[MrsBurgz 104]

The above answer is incorrect.

A person that is petitioning a family member to the US and doesn't have sufficient income would have to get a co-sponsor. Now the Petitioner would fill out the I-864 and the co-sponsor would also need to fill out the I-864. If the co-sponsor filed their taxes jointly with a spouse that spouse would need to fill out the I-864A.

Now in your case you're the co-sponsor and your income is being used so you MUST fill out an I-864. There is no need for the I-864A because your wife the sponsor.

[newacct 688]

The above answer is incorrect.

A person that is petitioning a family member to the US and doesn't have sufficient income would have to get a co-sponsor. Now the Petitioner would fill out the I-864 and the co-sponsor would also need to fill out the I-864. If the co-sponsor filed their taxes jointly with a spouse that spouse would need to fill out the I-864A.

Now in your case you're the co-sponsor and your income is being used so you MUST fill out an I-864. There is no need for the I-864A because your wife the sponsor.

No, Dee elle is correct.

There is no such thing as a "co-sponsor". There is the petitioner who is the primary sponsor, "joint sponsor", and "household members" of sponsors.

The OP's wife is the petitioner, so is the primary sponsor. The OP is part of the this sponsor's household and can act as her household member, and his income is counted as part of her household income, and so her (the primary sponsor's) household income is enough to sponsor.

There is no joint sponsor. There is just one I-864 filed by the petitioner, and a I-864A filed by her household member.

It would be completely pointless to have the OP be a "joint sponsor", because the OP's household would include the OP's wife anyway, and the household size and household income of this "joint sponsor" would be the exact same as the household size and household income of the petitioner if the OP just acts as her household member.

Edited June 30, 2016 by newacct

[aleful 1,905]

The above answer is incorrect.

A person that is petitioning a family member to the US and doesn't have sufficient income would have to get a co-sponsor. Now the Petitioner would fill out the I-864 and the co-sponsor would also need to fill out the I-864. If the co-sponsor filed their taxes jointly with a spouse that spouse would need to fill out the I-864A.

Now in your case you're the co-sponsor and your income is being used so you MUST fill out an I-864. There is no need for the I-864A because your wife the sponsor.

hi

as stated, the second part is wrong, the OP isn't filing for his parents, his wife is, so she is the sponsor and the OP is the household member

His wife will file the i864 and he will file the i864A as her household member for each parent

Even if the petitioner has $0 income, the petitioner ALWAYS fills out the i864 as primary sponsor, because he or she is related to the beneficiary and the government wants the petitioner to prove that the beneficiary won't become a public charge

if the sponsor doesn't qualify, he or she may use a co sponsor or joint sponsor depending on who is the beneficiary

[MrsBurgz 104]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/598931-i-864-and-i-864a-confusion/?p=8180698

Specifically the response Kaydeecee posted.

Edited June 30, 2016 by MrsBurgz

[MrsBurgz 104]

From what I understand the Joint sponsor also needed to fill out the I-864 because his income is being relied upon to sponsor the immigrants.

There seem to be conflicting responses to this question. If I was the OP I would call NVC and asked directly. Just to be on the safe side.

Edited June 30, 2016 by MrsBurgz

[aleful 1,905]

hi

the OP isn't the joint sponsor, maybe you got the terms wrong

a joint sponsor doesn't live in the same house as the petitioner, that's why the co sponsor is called household member, because he or she lives in the same house as the petitioner

so the wife is the sponsor and her husband is the household member and will fill out the i864A

kay de ce's response was that the sponsor will fill out the i864 as petition, but she had her dad as her joint sponsor, so yes the joint sponsor will fill out another i864 and her mom as his household member, will fill out an i864A

this isn't the OP's case

she doesn't need a joint sponsor,she will fill out the i864 as sponsor and petitioner and the OP will fill out the i864A as her household member

Edited June 30, 2016 by aleful

[MrsBurgz 104]

hi

the OP isn't the joint sponsor, maybe you got the terms wrong

a joint sponsor doesn't live in the same house as the petitioner, that's why the co sponsor is called household member, because he or she lives in the same house as the petitioner

so the wife is the sponsor and her husband is the household member and will fill out the i864A

kay de ce's response was that the sponsor will fill out the i864 as petition, but she had her dad as her joint sponsor, so yes the joint sponsor will fill out another i864 and her mom as his household member, will fill out an i864A

this isn't the OP's case

she doesn't need a joint sponsor,she will fill out the i864 as sponsor and petitioner and the OP will fill out the i864A as her household member

The OP stated he is the co-sponsor and his income will be used. Edited June 30, 2016 by MrsBurgz

[MrsBurgz 104]

Ok I think I understand what's going on. The I-864 is use only when the Co-sponsor doesn't live in the same household. Got it. My apologies OP and Dee Elle.

[aleful 1,905]

hi

yes his income will be used, that's why he is filing the i864A to combine his income with his wife's who is the petitioner for both parents

[Dale Ferguson 1]

Thanks for all of the responses! Now, if I understand this right. I am a household member, as my wife's husband, we do live in the same house. The immigrants are my wife's father and mother. My wife has never worked and has NO income. But we have always filed our taxes "Jointly"

So my wife as the petitioner will file the I-864. And I, as the "joint" sponsor will need to file the I-864"a" This is what I understand from the comments above. Thanks again for everyones help.

[aleful 1,905]

hi

almost, as stated before, the joint sponsor is the person that doesn't live in the same house

a joint sponsor doesn't necessarily need to be a relative or spouse, it can be a friend or someone who is a USC or LPR that qualifies, they don't even need to live in the same city or state

household member is there spouse or family member that lives at the same house

[Dale Ferguson 1]

Thanks aleful, heres is what I found on the NVC gov. site that pertains to me and my wife....You (my wife) may count the income and assets of members of your household who are related to you by birth, marriage <(Me here), or adoption.To use their income you must have listed them as dependents on your most recent federal tax return or they must have lived with you for the last 6 months.They must also complete a Form I-864A, Contract between Sponsor and Household Member.

Thanks very much for everyones help!