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Omar Siddiqui Mateen, the gunman who killed 49 people in Sunday's horrific massacre, was an American-born citizen. He was raised in the US and he legally obtained his assault rifle.

Mateen did reportedly claim allegiance to ISIS during his attack, but the FBI hasn't foundevidence that he received direction from abroad. All evidence available suggests that the shooter acted independently of any specific group.

That didn't, however, stop Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump from making renewed calls to bar Muslims from entering the US.

In a speech on Monday, Trump said: "The bottom line is that the only reason the killer was in America in the first place was because we allowed his family to come here. That is a fact and it's a fact we need to talk about. We have a dysfunctional immigration system which does not permit us to know who we let into our country and it does not permit us to protect our citizens properly."

Data from the New America Foundation suggests this type of security plan would be misguided. When you look at the history of terrorism in America, the perpetrators are rarely foreign nationals. The story of terrorism in America is one of homegrown radicalism.

"There is a conventional wisdom that terrorism in the US is the province of foreigners and is seen as a problem of infiltration," says David Sterman, a senior program associate with the international security program at the New America Foundation. "And while there is certainly a reason for that perception, as the September 11 attacks were conducted by people who came in from abroad, in the 330 cases we’ve examined since September 11, we found 80 percent are US citizens."

US citizens have committed 80 percent of terrorist attacks since 9/11

September 11, 2001, marked the worst international terrorist attack on American soil, killing more than 3,000 people and wounding countless others. But 9/11 is an outlier. In the 14 years since, not one domestic terrorist attack has been committed by a foreign terrorist organization, including the latest mass shooting in Orlando, Florida. Omar Mateen was an American citizen.

In the same time frame, however, there have been 26 deadly domestic terrorist attacks perpetrated by homegrown terrorists. Homegrown terrorism commonly refers to terrorist acts committed by a government's own citizens. While sometimes used to describe an Islamic extremist threat, homegrown terrorism isn't tied to any one ideological background.

"IN THE 330 CASES WE'VE EXAMINED SINCE SEPTEMBER 11, WE FOUND 80 PERCENT ARE US CITIZENS"

Of the 28 deadly homegrown terrorist attacks, only 10 of those attacks were related to Islamic extremism. The other 18 attacks were led by right-wing extremists, including, most recently, the mass shooting that killed three and wounded nine at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

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So the Islamic Terrorist in Orlando. He was American right

Exactly , born in the USA

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He was born in the US so was a US Citizen. American?

He did not have an assault rifle.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Another rubbish stat; muslims make up a tiny percent of americans. Here's a fun stat. Why don't you compare the number of people in the US who are muslim (1%) to the number of people killed in America by muslim terrorists in the past couple of decades.

Have fun explaining why muslims are wildly overrepresented in terror killings in the US without admitting the premise of the first post is nonsense. The first post's premise is akin to saying more people die in swimming polls than those who die playing russian roulette; ergo, russian roulette is safer than swimming polls.

Good luck!

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Another rubbish stat; muslims make up a tiny percent of americans. Here's a fun stat. Why don't you compare the number of people in the US who are muslim (1%) to the number of people killed in America by muslim terrorists in the past couple of decades.

Have fun explaining why muslims are wildly overrepresented in terror killings in the US without admitting the premise of the first post is nonsense. The first post's premise is akin to saying more people die in swimming polls than those who die playing russian roulette; ergo, russian roulette is safer than swimming polls.

past couple of decades, got to get those 9/11 numbers in their. rubbish indeed.

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Another rubbish stat; muslims make up a tiny percent of americans. Here's a fun stat. Why don't you compare the number of people in the US who are muslim (1%) to the number of people killed in America by muslim terrorists in the past couple of decades.

Have fun explaining why muslims are wildly overrepresented in terror killings in the US without admitting the premise of the first post is nonsense. The first post's premise is akin to saying more people die in swimming polls than those who die playing russian roulette; ergo, russian roulette is safer than swimming polls.

911 pads those stats regarding deaths by Muslim Terrorists for you here in the US, but the entire number of Americans killed in the US in the past few decades is still smaller than the number of gun related deaths in just the first six and a half months of this year.

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Another rubbish stat; muslims make up a tiny percent of americans. Here's a fun stat. Why don't you compare the number of people in the US who are muslim (1%) to the number of people killed in America by muslim terrorists in the past couple of decades.

Have fun explaining why muslims are wildly overrepresented in terror killings in the US without admitting the premise of the first post is nonsense. The first post's premise is akin to saying more people die in swimming polls than those who die playing russian roulette; ergo, russian roulette is safer than swimming polls.

Slightly unfair, who is going to kill for Allah, blessing be upon him, other than a Muslim?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Slightly unfair, who is going to kill for Allah, blessing be upon him, other than a Muslim?

Here's some fun facts from a source significantly more enlightened than your fellow VJ terrorism expert ExPatty, PBS.

Less than 2.6 percent of all terrorist fatalities world wide since 2000 have been suffered by and in the Western world, not just the US, so the US makes for just a fraction of that small fraction. That figure drops to .5 percent if you exclude the 911 death toll.

67 percent of world wide terrorist deaths are by lone wolf political extremists and Islamic Extremism accounts for just 20 percent of terrorist attacks world wide between 2008 and 2014.

Still scared?

Still think that ExPatty made a brilliant point?

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Another rubbish stat; muslims make up a tiny percent of americans. Here's a fun stat. Why don't you compare the number of people in the US who are muslim (1%) to the number of people killed in America by muslim terrorists in the past couple of decades.

Have fun explaining why muslims are wildly overrepresented in terror killings in the US without admitting the premise of the first post is nonsense. The first post's premise is akin to saying more people die in swimming polls than those who die playing russian roulette; ergo, russian roulette is safer than swimming polls.

Let me defend the original post because you have misconstrued it.

The original post states that the threat of terrorist attack appears to be greater from within than from overseas. The data show this to be a fact and not nonsense. When determining what your immigration policy needs to be, aligning to fact and not fear is useful. When campaigning for narcissist of the century, fear mongering will be useful. It just depends what the end game is.

Regardless of why it is happening, Christian, Muslim, Agnostic or Uber driver, we need to get ahead of the domestic threat. Don't take your eye off the ball.

The content available on a site dedicated to bringing folks to America should not be promoting racial discord, euro-supremacy, discrimination based on religion , exclusion of groups from immigration based on where they were born, disenfranchisement of voters rights based on how they might vote.

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Here's some fun facts from a source significantly more enlightened than your fellow VJ terrorism expert ExPatty, PBS.

Less than 2.6 percent of all terrorist fatalities world wide since 2000 have been suffered by and in the Western world, not just the US, so the US makes for just a fraction of that small fraction. That figure drops to .5 percent if you exclude the 911 death toll.

67 percent of world wide terrorist deaths are by lone wolf political extremists and Islamic Extremism accounts for just 20 percent of terrorist attacks world wide between 2008 and 2014.

Still scared?

Still think that ExPatty made a brilliant point?

Reality is not conducive to the success of The Donald's campaign. Abandon it. Now.

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You have to admit the boys are catching up, not something I had ever heard of happening in my younger days.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 

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