help guys

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

I agree. Everyone says oh leave and go back home. You have no business here. That's not for anyone to decide. A lot of people quit their jobs, leave their families, sell their houses, cars, property. They leave everything to come here. If I did this to my fiancé he would be screwed. He would have nothing to come home to. Once he leaves Saudi, he can't go back because he's there on a work visa. He has no family or anyone in the Philipines. They all live in Saudi. So I think about it from that point of view. It's not easy for everyone to "just go home" Some people don't have homes to go back to because they left everything to come to the US. I'm not sure if this is OP's situation but I think people should take a step back and stop being so judgemental. Imaging being in OP's shoes. Leaving all behind, possibly selling and leaving all you've ever know to come here to be with someone who promises you a life. Then you get here and find out after marriage that your husband or wife is cheating on you and trying to bring someone else to the US. So all of a sudden you're confused, and in a country where you have no resources, no family, and no way of knowing what to do. You come here because this is your only way of getting advice. Then everyone starts yelling "go home! Go home!" We're here to help. Not judge. OP Unfortunetly, if your wife doesn't show up for the interview, and pulls the I-864 there's nothing you can do. You will most likely face deportation. You need to hire an immigration/divorce attorney now. Have you tried marriage counseling? That would be my first step. Also, I'm not sure what state you're in but you can possibly fight the divorce as well? That being if you really do love your wife and want to continue fighting for this marriage. Not for the sake of the green card, but for the sake of the marriage. Good luck!

People can be sympathetic when the situation calls for sympathy, but that doesn't change the fact that the basis of him being in America is as a spouse and for family reunification. If the marriage is not bonafide even before permanent residency is granted, then he has no basis to be in the country.

America doesn't have the resources to take in every sad case the world over, neither should it enable someone who is clearly not in a bonafide marriage to gain permanent residency. That is a marriage and a petition solely for the purposes of immigration, which is not allowed under our current system.

[chrismyke 7]

Its the risk you take moving to a new country with someone you dont really know...if you have so much to loose maybe you should think a few times before selling everything and moving.

How do you know he barely knew her? Exactly my point...you are being judgemental. People married for several years could get divorced overnight so its not about that. Sometimes things just go wrong, they have in his situation and simply wanted to know what his options were.

[Meg&Andrew 297]

People can be sympathetic when the situation calls for sympathy, but that doesn't change the fact that the basis of him being in America is as a spouse and for family reunification. If the marriage is not bonafide even before permanent residency is granted, then he has no basis to be in the country.

America doesn't have the resources to take in every sad case the world over, neither should it enable someone who is clearly not in a bonafide marriage to gain permanent residency. That is a marriage and a petition solely for the purposes of immigration, which is not allowed under our current system.

I never stated that America needs to take in every sad case all over the world. He is being screwed over and I stated that if he really loves his wife he needs to go to marriage counseling, hire a lawyer, and if he wants to stay in the marriage for the sake of saving his marriage then he can possibly fight the divorce. No where did I say that I wanted people to reach out a helping hand, clothe him, feed him, and keep him up. I'm just giving advice without being so judgemental and telling him to go home. I'm stating other options, as well I told him that if she doesn't file aos and pulls the I-864 that he faces deportation. I just said it with a bit more compassion and understanding than others.

[lookGod004 1]

I came here for an advice, so funny how people started dissing me..even the immigration told her she can't pull affidavit of support unless she write to them and explain what's went wrong with evidence..and now no evidence of wrongdoing from me..its funny how some folks here were judging me instead of giving me an advise on what step to take..after all she hasn't pull the affidavit and she said she s not ready to pull it because I didn't do anything..just that she scare I might leave her and run away after getting green card ..that was what she told immigration..not that she said I commit fraud..she just scare that's all..but I'm glad since yesterday that I posted this topic..shout out to meg&Andrew and chrismyke..

[chrismyke 7]

People can be sympathetic when the situation calls for sympathy, but that doesn't change the fact that the basis of him being in America is as a spouse and for family reunification. If the marriage is not bonafide even before permanent residency is granted, then he has no basis to be in the country.

America doesn't have the resources to take in every sad case the world over, neither should it enable someone who is clearly not in a bonafide marriage to gain permanent residency. That is a marriage and a petition solely for the purposes of immigration, which is not allowed under our current system.

Seems you are the the law, judge and the jury. How do you know the marriage is not bonafide? Did it occur to you the guy may be a victim of exploitation? You and i may never know the events that have led to the sudden breakdown of their marriage hence the reason not to judge. they may have had an arguement or disagreement,..and she just decided to do that, irrespective of this fact, hes trying to ask and find out how he can show he entered the marriage in good faith. And because he believes he did, hes trying to find a way to prove it,..obviously...they must have had a viable proof of thier relationship before starting the whole process. U just saw america doesnt have the resources to take in every sad case... meaning what?...did you really just say that?...very unnecessary comment and uncalled for....very dissapointing.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Some of you sound a bit harsh in the things you are saying to him....he may have spent alot of time and put in alot of effort into this relationship thinking everything is ok. There is no shame in him being worried of events just before hes meant to receive his greencard. Some of you are soo quick to judge others even before you consider everything. Its not a crime for certain people from certain parts of the world to want to be with their loved ones and also have a chance at a better life in this country legally. The fact that someone wants to know his options at a certain stage in the visa process and not just packing up their bags and going to their country doesnt mean he was in it just for the green card. Like all men, everyone tries to make the best out of the current situation, if things would be better off here for him and can be done legally than just going back to a bad situation why cant he or mustnt he exploit it? Not all countries are the same, not everyones circumstances are the same,people have got to realise and respect this before they make comments to people. The world is far bigger than some of you seem to realise, we need alot of perspective instead of being judgemental.

I hope you meant explore and not exploit.

[chrismyke 7]

I hope you meant explore and not exploit.

Thanks for the correction...and there are more typos too but i hope u get the gist!!!! EXPLORE

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

hes trying to ask and find out how he can show he entered the marriage in good faith.

Both those who are legitimate immigrants and those who would choose to scam the system would ask for this advice, but by giving them clear instructions on how to manufacture evidence, would we not risk aiding someone whose intentions are not necessarily love, but continuing to live in America by any means, VAWA included?

Bringing up VAWA was definitely a warning sign.

U just saw america doesnt have the resources to take in every sad case... meaning what?

Who is this letter "U"? Is this some person on the forums? If "U" saw this, "U" must be very wise and perceptive.

[firebird00 66]

Everytime I read about such case where the immigrant is stuck in some place and they have to play the time game till they can obtain their permanent residency card, I remember when I was at my home country I used to work in the oil industry. One day I met an Iranian Diplomat and he told me when Iran started to talk about having nuclear power the world opposed it, so the Iranians offered negotiations which they succeeded to drag it into 10 years, when they started it Iran had no nuclear power, they played the time game and obtained nuclear power within the 10 years of negotiatins and then the world found itself infront of a real stituation where they cant do much. This reminds me of SOME of the new marriage based immigrants who will play the time game untill they have their permanent GC, then their USC spouse will find themselves that they cant do much.

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

I agree. Everyone says oh leave and go back home. You have no business here. That's not for anyone to decide. A lot of people quit their jobs, leave their families, sell their houses, cars, property. They leave everything to come here. If I did this to my fiancé he would be screwed. He would have nothing to come home to. Once he leaves Saudi, he can't go back because he's there on a work visa. He has no family or anyone in the Philipines. They all live in Saudi. So I think about it from that point of view. It's not easy for everyone to "just go home" Some people don't have homes to go back to because they left everything to come to the US. I'm not sure if this is OP's situation but I think people should take a step back and stop being so judgemental. Imaging being in OP's shoes. Leaving all behind, possibly selling and leaving all you've ever know to come here to be with someone who promises you a life. Then you get here and find out after marriage that your husband or wife is cheating on you and trying to bring someone else to the US. So all of a sudden you're confused, and in a country where you have no resources, no family, and no way of knowing what to do. You come here because this is your only way of getting advice. Then everyone starts yelling "go home! Go home!" We're here to help. Not judge. OP Unfortunetly, if your wife doesn't show up for the interview, and pulls the I-864 there's nothing you can do. You will most likely face deportation. You need to hire an immigration/divorce attorney now. Have you tried marriage counseling? That would be my first step. Also, I'm not sure what state you're in but you can possibly fight the divorce as well? That being if you really do love your wife and want to continue fighting for this marriage. Not for the sake of the green card, but for the sake of the marriage. Good luck!

How do you know he barely knew her? Exactly my point...you are being judgemental. People married for several years could get divorced overnight so its not about that. Sometimes things just go wrong, they have in his situation and simply wanted to know what his options were.

I was replying to this poster in a general statement!!

Again if you are you arent 100% then dont move because if it doesnt work out YOU HAVE TO GO BACK....

Unless you know of some law where you come on a k1 and stay with out a bonifide union

Had they been married for years HE WOULDNT have this problem

Edited June 16, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[chrismyke 7]

Both those who are legitimate immigrants and those who would choose to scam the system would ask for this advice, but by giving them clear instructions on how to manufacture evidence, would we not risk aiding someone whose intentions are not necessarily love, but continuing to live in America by any means, VAWA included?

Bringing up VAWA was definitely a warning sign.

Who is this letter "U"? Is this some person on the forums? If "U" saw this, "U" must be very wise and perceptive

So if by your estimation both legitimate and illegitimate would ask for same advice, does it mean he shouldnt ask? Get real here. U think the just got up and started the whole process without evidence? Exactly my point....its not our place to judge someones marriage especially based on the inormation he gave.

Oh and the " U " you seem soo excited about was just me writing short hand from my mobile of "you" as "U" which shouldnt be a big deal...but if you didnt know then know you know...which is not of much relevance to what we are discussing in any case. i believe u get my drift now. cheers.

[Meg&Andrew 297]

I eas replying to this poster in a general statement so PIPE DOWN!

Again if you are you arent 100% than dont move because if it doesnt work out YOU HAVE TO GO BACK....

I'm as "Piped down as it gets" I don't need anyone yelling at me telling me to "PIPE DOWN" either. We are here to advise OP on his best course of action, according to what we think is correct. We can agree to disagree, but I refuse to get on here and yell and bicker back and forth like children. We are here to help others.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Seems you are the the law, judge and the jury. How do you know the marriage is not bonafide? Did it occur to you the guy may be a victim of exploitation? You and i may never know the events that have led to the sudden breakdown of their marriage hence the reason not to judge. they may have had an arguement or disagreement,..and she just decided to do that, irrespective of this fact,And b hes trying to ask and find out how he can show he entered the marriage in good faith. And because he believes he did, hes trying to find a way to prove it,..obviously...they must have had a viable proof of thier relationship before starting the whole process. U just saw america doesnt have the resources to take in every sad case... meaning what?...did you really just say that?...very unnecessary comment and uncalled for....very dissapointing.

If she pulls the affidavit of support it does not matter that he has proof of a good faith marriage because there is no basis to AOS.

For ROC it would be possible with a divorce waiver but not for AOS. She must be willing to continue with the affidavit of support

and prove a bona fide marriage. Since she already has contacted USCIS about being scared he will leave her after the GC she

has set in motion a very scrutinizing interview to say the least and when he adds her cheating evidence it will be the end of it.

We know the marriage is not bona fide because she cheats on him and already wants to sponsor another person.

It does not take a genius to see that she is not serious and a big nut cake. Not only did she sabotage their relationship by

contacting USCIS but probably hopes they will deny him so she can sponsor her next victim all justified by feeling it wasn't her fault

if he is denied.

I don't care what they told her on the phone, they will not approve him because he did nothing wrong and she is 100% in the wrong.

No affidavit of support + no bona fide marriage = no green card. Period. No ifs and buts. Giving OP false hope is not helpful.

His wife sounds mentally unstable and he should get away from her for his own sanity.

[chrismyke 7]

I'm as "Piped down as it gets" I don't need anyone yelling at me telling me to "PIPE DOWN" either. We are here to advise OP on his best course of action, according to what we think is correct. We can agree to disagree, but I refuse to get on here and yell and bicker back and forth like children. We are here to help others.

you couldnt have said it any better....you said it all. thumbs up !!!!!!!

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

I'm as "Piped down as it gets" I don't need anyone yelling at me telling me to "PIPE DOWN" either. We are here to advise OP on his best course of action, according to what we think is correct. We can agree to disagree, but I refuse to get on here and yell and bicker back and forth like children. We are here to help others.

I wasnt telling you to pipe it was the other one my reply to you stays...

If you arent certain of you fiancee then DONT sell everything because if it ends then you have to go back..:

Edited June 16, 2016 by Anitafeliz