Orlando terror attack worst mass shooting in US history

[Sousuke 1,214]

It's good to have a hobby. Just think all the sweet pillow talk about clips , magazines, glocks, gun sizes aren't really part of this discussion. But you are free to post. I'm not a mod. Your posts are very informative .

I'm not the one who brought up guns in this thread. Keep that in mind. When they enter the discussion I of course have every right to discuss them.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

For those wanting to blame the FBI. Here is the real problem

Fmr FBI Official: Obama Putting Political Correctness Over Safety

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2014/09/29/fmr-fbi-official-obama-putting-political-correctness-over-safety/

[GandD 5,966]

I am interested in how some people are happy to throw Women and now LGBT rights to the wind.

Allah certainly seems to be kicking ### in some quarters.

I don't get it either. Islam is a conservative religion is it not?

[Jacque67 7,328]

I'm not the one who brought up guns in this thread. Keep that in mind. When they enter the discussion I of course have every right to discuss them.

Ok ok have it your way.

Gonna create a thread for you. Go get'em .

[Sousuke 1,214]

Yes he had such a firearms license. But can we ask ourselves why he did? A person who seems to have expressed mental instability for a considerable amount of time and abused his wife.

He had it for his security job. If there was evidence that he abused his wife, I'm not sure why the FBI didn't act.

Personally, I have a problem with the fact this individual, and I presume anyone in Florida, could walk into a Walmart or other location and purchase an AR-15 and walk out of the store with it in their grubby hands all in the same day. And, they continue to purchase gun after gun after gun..and ammo to boot all in the same week. It seems to me this shouldn't be a normal pattern of behavior for the average gun owner.

Walmart no longer sells AR15s as far as I'm aware. Honestly the average gun owner owns 8 firearms so I would say that buying gun after gun is normal behavior.

It seems to fit a profile. Do you change the law to say anyone who is on a watch list and anyone who was investigated multiple times by the FBI but aren't actively being watched should be prevented from obtaining a gun?

No I would ask why did they stop watching him if he wasn't safe. Frankly if a person is on a watchlist they should remain on the watchlist until they are not a threat. The FBI screwed up.

People are going to say they don't want to exchange their right to free speech which if absurd or horrible enough words are used, could cause them to be watched by their government, and then also lead them to be prevented from gun ownership. Clearly this person was investigated because he said some crazy stuff. But the FBI can't arrest a person for saying crazy stuff. They cannot arrest a person for going to Mecca and saying crazy stuff on their facebook pages. They can only arrest them if they say crazy stuff and they are caught planning out a deed. If this was the case, we would blessedly be rid of a ton of little ticking time-bombs and Nazi-lovers and their weapon stockpiles by now.

They can be arrested if a threat is made. Again, this person should have continued to be watched.

[GandD 5,966]

I'm not the one who brought up guns in this thread. Keep that in mind. When they enter the discussion I of course have every right to discuss them.

I know two guys that bought a gun each at a gun show in Kentucky on Saturday. No background check. One got an ar for ~$600 an the other a ruger revolver. I just don't get the no background check stuff. How is that allowed?

[Sousuke 1,214]

Ok ok have it your way.

Gonna create a thread for you. Go get'em .

No, so long as guns are mentioned in this thread I will post HERE.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I know two guys that bought a gun each at a gun show in Kentucky on Saturday. No background check. One got an ar for ~$600 an the other a ruger revolver. I just don't get the no background check stuff. How is that allowed?

I can but a gun with no background check as can my wife, because we hold firearm licences

Private sales are a very small %, but I have no problem closing that loophole

[Jacque67 7,328]

No, so long as guns are mentioned in this thread I will post HERE.

Hmmm.. Stubborn, huh? Ok . But I created a super hot thread for you to enjoy. Post on both. Be my guest;)

[GandD 5,966]

I can but a gun with no background check as can my wife, because we hold firearm licences

Private sales are a very small %, but I have no problem closing that loophole

These guys didn't have any of that. I'm sure each state has its own ridiculous rules.

[OriZ 3,157]

SIT DOWN!

STANDS UP!

(just for the hell of it)

They did miss the domestic abuse problems in his background check. However, if ALL pepole weren't allowed to carry these types of guns, wouldn't it make agencies like the FBI job easier by not having to screen everyone they see with these type of weapons? If the gun is outlawed, they know it's a redflag to see someone with it. If it's needed for a profession people with certain problems in their background dint get access, domestic abuse, assault, drug abuse, alcoholism, gang affiliations, etc

And maybe, just maybe, if a few of the folks in the nightclub had guns, they'd take this sicko out before he got so many of them? Being he would have had his guns no matter what.

Bullets are different, yes? They should allow people to carry self defense guns with small bullets and a slow shot per second.

I'm not a gun expert, giving my opinion off of what I've seen and used. Bigger bullet more damage. Bigger gun most damage. A tank? It's war time.

1 million dollars donated. Awesome

Hey this enough damage for ya?

http://sendvid.com/8idmmdpe

(it's in slo-mo, I'm not really that slow)

Edited June 14, 2016 by OriZ

[Sousuke 1,214]

I know two guys that bought a gun each at a gun show in Kentucky on Saturday. No background check. One got an ar for ~$600 an the other a ruger revolver. I just don't get the no background check stuff. How is that allowed?

It shouldn't be. This where the two sides should come together.

Compromise on universal background checks for say legal CCW in all 50 states.

[OriZ 3,157]

I can but a gun with no background check as can my wife, because we hold firearm licences

Private sales are a very small %, but I have no problem closing that loophole

In VT you can buy a gun and carry it however ya want no permit needed but I'm sure ya guys already heard all about it from Gary.

[GandD 5,966]

It shouldn't be. This where the two sides should come together.

Compromise on universal background checks for say legal CCW in all 50 states.

I agree. I actually don't have a problem with concealed carry. Standardize the process, make it class or course based with a renewal every ten years or so. And make it valid nationwide.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I agree. I actually don't have a problem with concealed carry. Standardize the process, make it class or course based with a renewal every ten years or so. And make it valid nationwide.

My real problem is with the people that open carry. I try to explain to them the tactical stupidity of that. I support the right , I just think it's a novice move that is asking for trouble